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Obama says Manning 'broke the law'
Politico ^ | April 22, 2011 | MJ Lee

Posted on 04/22/2011 4:02:37 PM PDT by jazusamo

President Barack Obama’s assertion at a California fundraiser Thursday that Bradley Manning “broke the law” may have run afoul of presidential protocol, according to legal analysts who have been tracking the case of the Army private charged in the WikiLeaks case.

“I have to abide by certain classified information,” Obama is shown saying in a video that quickly began to circulate among media outlets Friday. “If I was to release stuff, information that I’m not authorized to release, I’m breaking the law…We’re a nation of laws. We don’t individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate… He broke the law.”

Obama’s remarks about Manning were made after a group of protesters interrupted him at another fundraiser earlier in the day to sing a song asking for Manning’s release.

Until now, the biggest point of controversy surrounding Manning had been about the conditions under which he was being detained at a marine base in Quantico, Va. Former State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley offered his resignation after criticizing the Defense Department’s treatment of Manning, and Obama’s only comments about the accused whistle-blower had been about that issue.

“I have actually asked the Pentagon whether or not the procedures that have been taken in terms of his confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards. They assure me that they are,” Obama told reporters at a news conference in March. “I can’t go into details about some of their concerns, but some of this has to do with Private Manning’s safety as well.”

But the president’s comment to a group of donors that Manning “broke the law” drew immediate fire from some tracking Manning’s case.

“The comment was not appropriate because it assumes that Manning is guilty,” Steven Aftergood, a classified information expert at the Federation of American Scientists, told POLITICO. “The president got carried away and misspoke. No one should mistake a charge for a conviction – especially the nation’s highest official.”

Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice and military law expert, even predicted that before the end of Friday, the White House will have issued a corrective statement.

“Commenting on Manning’s conditions of confinement is one thing — I would have strongly advised him to not comment about Manning’s guilt,” Fidell told POLITICO.

However, Aftergood and Fidell agreed that Obama remarks – while unfortunate — will probably not affect whether Manning will receive a fair trial. “It’s not that hard to ensure that unlawful command influence hasn’t in fact prejudiced the right to a fair trial,” Fidell explained. “If the case goes to a court marshal, the military court will have to make sure that none of the members of the military jury have been influenced by the president’s stated belief that Manning broke the law.”

And what about Obama’s assertion that “I have to abide by certain rules of classified information”? There seems to be an error in this assumption too, as the president has the power to define and authorize what information is considered “classified.”

“It’s a misstatement: It presumes that the classification rules are a matter of law, when in fact they are a matter of they are based in executive order,” Aftergood said. “There are rules and procedures governing the de-classification process, but those rules also are based in presidential authority. The president has supreme authority over what is classified.”

In other words, Obama can “declassify” anything he wants, Fidell said. “That one got away from him a little. In a way, it’s a hypothetical that could never happen.”

Perhaps the president, who himself is a legal scholar, was thrown off by the earlier incident. <

“He seems to have had a bad day, because he said a number of things that really were not coherent,” Aftergood said.

The White House said it would not comment on the president’s remarks.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: manning; obama
“Commenting on Manning’s conditions of confinement is one thing — I would have strongly advised him to not comment about Manning’s guilt,”

This is very surprising being Obama was a constitutional law professor. /sarc

1 posted on 04/22/2011 4:02:39 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

bttt


2 posted on 04/22/2011 4:04:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: jazusamo

maybe zer0 is tryng to get the case thrown out


3 posted on 04/22/2011 4:07:46 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: jazusamo

Yet this traitorous buffoon of a president thinks illegal aliens can do whatever they want in this country.

“I have to abide by certain classified information,” Obama is shown saying in a video that quickly began to circulate among media outlets Friday. “If I was to release stuff, information that I’m not authorized to release, I’m breaking the law…We’re a nation of laws. We don’t individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate… He broke the law.”


4 posted on 04/22/2011 4:08:15 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: jazusamo

“He seems to have had a bad day, because he said a number of things that really were not coherent,” Aftergood said.

Incoherent for a day, not so bad.
Incoherent for four years.....?


5 posted on 04/22/2011 4:08:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RatRipper

Didn’t think of that but anythings possible with him.


6 posted on 04/22/2011 4:09:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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7 posted on 04/22/2011 4:10:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
It's OK--Obama's a Democrat. Move along...nothing to see here.

Nixon caught a lot of flak for a comment about Lt. Calley. Hillary called the cops in an accidental shooting "murderers" and that was OK.

8 posted on 04/22/2011 4:10:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: RatRipper

Sone of O’s biggest support comes from the homofags, and Manning is a Godless sodomite.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 4:10:48 PM PDT by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: jazusamo

Obama is the commander in chief of the jury, no? So he is telling them the verdict. Not good


10 posted on 04/22/2011 4:16:17 PM PDT by mewykwistmas ("The last time the French asked for 'more proof,' it came marching into Paris under a German flag.")
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To: fuzzybutt
I think you are getting to the heart of the matter ~ all the homoeroticofile crowd cares about is their sex life ~ nothing beyond that.

The writer is wrong to say that the biggest issue about Manning was his treatment ~ and that gives him/her away!

11 posted on 04/22/2011 4:17:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo

Heck, obozo can just have another “beer summit”. Looks like he’s crashing and burning before our eyes.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 4:32:48 PM PDT by Pit1 (The only word out of the dims mouth is TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX. And RINOS eat it up)
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To: jazusamo

Hey, the protestors should be estatic ... Obama just offered up a Command Influence defense.


13 posted on 04/22/2011 4:38:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the US)
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To: NonValueAdded
Obama just offered up a Command Influence defense.

He sure did, right from the top. Obama is an idiot!

14 posted on 04/22/2011 4:40:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Apparently, early in his life someone told Obama that being a moron was a full time job and he ran with it.


15 posted on 04/22/2011 4:40:55 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: jazusamo

Nixon said that Manson was guilty, and there was a big stink. Obama is Obama and will get a pass from the liberals.

What Manning is accused of is a very serious crime. He’s no hero.


16 posted on 04/22/2011 4:42:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Verginius Rufus
It's OK--Obama's a Democrat. Move along...nothing to see here.

Nixon caught a lot of flak for a comment about Lt. Calley. Hillary called the cops in an accidental shooting "murderers" and that was OK.

Nixon also caught a lot of flack when he said in an interview that Charles Manson was "apparently guilty of murder" when Manson's trial was still going on. Manson's laywer tried to use that to get the case thrown out.

17 posted on 04/22/2011 4:42:59 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: popdonnelly
What Manning is accused of is a very serious crime. He’s no hero.

Amen to that! What he did in a time of war he should be executed for if found guilty.

18 posted on 04/22/2011 4:47:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Obama: "We’re a nation of laws. We don’t individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate… He broke the law.”

Well seeing as how he hasn't had a TRIAL yet, Mr. President, it's hard to interpret your declaration of his guilt as anything BUT "individually making your own decision about how the laws operate."

But don't worry, no one understands what you're doing - remember, above all, that you're invisible.

19 posted on 04/22/2011 4:50:31 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: jazusamo

Typical for a totalitarian wannabe: the declaration of guilt precedes a formal trial. He sucks.


20 posted on 04/22/2011 4:55:46 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: jazusamo

Obama is quite the doofus, isn’t he?

Guess that he learned nothing from the dust-up back when he declared that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was guilty and would receive the death penalty, but should be tried in a civilian court anyway.

Guess that in Obama’s fevered imagination, any important case deserves the best show trial that government can fabricate, and all of that boring “nation of laws” and Constitution crap that he somehow missed picking up on as he sailed through Harvard Law School was never particularly important, anyway...

Guess that they don’t have any of that “innocent until proven guilty” nonsense in his home country or something...

Guess that they don’t call him “Zero” or “O’Dumbo” for nothing, huh...


21 posted on 04/22/2011 5:06:41 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Zeppo

He really is a doofus.

Many here say he knows exactly what he’s doing but I believe his handler or handlers dictate to him precisely what to say on the big issues and his speeches.

These type goofs occur because he doesn’t have a clue and his handlers haven’t given him the answers. No one, IMO typifies the saying about putting ones mouth in gear before brain more than Obama.


22 posted on 04/22/2011 5:24:02 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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“I have to abide by certain classified information,” Obama

We’ll get along much better if Zero considers the constitution classified information.


23 posted on 04/22/2011 5:29:09 PM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: jazusamo
I have long wondered whether the “real explanation” behind the path of deceit and destruction that Obama leaves in his wake is that he is truly an evil being, or that he is the compliant pawn of sinister forces, or that he is simply doing what comes naturally to a narcissistic con artist, or that he is merely ignorant and incompetent, or that he is little more than a bumbling doofus who has stumbled into the deep end without his water wings.

My well-considered conclusion is “all of the above”.

24 posted on 04/22/2011 6:22:39 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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