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Jury finds that Jones's protest would breach peace
ABC ^ | 04/22/2011 | Staff

Posted on 04/22/2011 4:24:18 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

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To: Hot Tabasco

These muslims need to go home. This is a Christian Nation and it is EASTER. These bastards will go to hell.


41 posted on 04/22/2011 4:59:49 PM PDT by k5kor
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To: OldDeckHand
During their closing arguments the lawyer for the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office argued, "Just because we have the first amendment doesn't mean you can say anything or do anything at any time."

Just WOW.

42 posted on 04/22/2011 4:59:49 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cripplecreek
Well, I didn't mean the city per se. The freedom-smothering atmosphere, the dhimmitude or sheepledom.
43 posted on 04/22/2011 5:02:06 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (0bama let Lt. Col. Lakin go to prison rather than show his paperwork.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Michigan has taken a hard turn to the right despite Detroit.


44 posted on 04/22/2011 5:03:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: OldDeckHand
The jury has found that a proposed protest by Quran-burning pastor Terry Jones outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, the largest mosque in the United States, is likely to breach the peace and incite violence

If a video of his burning 1 koran caused rioting and hundreds of deaths halfway across the world then his presence outside a mosque would generate another phase of urban renewal encompassing all of Dearborn and neighboring areas. Easier to remove the flashpoint then to have to actually confront those who are so easily provoked by somebody expressing his constitutionally protected rights.
45 posted on 04/22/2011 5:04:36 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama makes me yearn for the good ol' days of Carter.)
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To: cripplecreek

At this moment, with this news, that’s rather hard to appreciate. :(


46 posted on 04/22/2011 5:04:42 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (0bama let Lt. Col. Lakin go to prison rather than show his paperwork.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Michigan has taken a hard turn to the right despite Detroit."

I lived for three years in South Bend and spent a fair amount of time hunting, fishing and skiing all over Michigan. My sense of Michigan was that if you excised Detroit, Ann Arbor and Benton Harlem for the state, it would be a very conservative place.

47 posted on 04/22/2011 5:08:13 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: buccaneer81

Agree....this is a total crock of cow crap. Jones should be trampled by a herd of lawyers by now looking to get a piece of the gold nugget he’s due for such a violation of rights.

Even if I don’t like him or not.....this was WRONG !!

USSC says Westboro OK......

Taxpayers subjected to this clown posse jury and judge says Jones ain’t.

Damn ....


48 posted on 04/22/2011 5:10:01 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

John Conyers district I believe.


49 posted on 04/22/2011 5:10:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: OldDeckHand

Cut off the top third of Ohio, and the real (rest of) Ohio resembles Tennessee with the exception of inner-city Columbus.


50 posted on 04/22/2011 5:15:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: OldDeckHand

Now that we’re kicking the unions in the teeth I’m hoping we can get to a point where we attract some more conservatives to the state and solidify our grip.

Its a real sportsman’s paradise outside the cities.


51 posted on 04/22/2011 5:15:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

I’m thinking my state is pretty rightward except for Philly. New York except for the 5 buroughs and a few perditionopolises to the north and west. Ohio beyond Cleveland.
Like the famous red-blue election map says. Geographically we’re a red nation with a few gangrenous areas of blue...where most of the people are clustered.
I am not optimistic.


52 posted on 04/22/2011 5:16:52 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (0bama let Lt. Col. Lakin go to prison rather than show his paperwork.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Dearborn is the core of Conyers district.

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53 posted on 04/22/2011 5:20:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Thank God for the Electoral College. They’ll have to pry it my cold, dead left hand, as my right hand will be holding a .45.


54 posted on 04/22/2011 5:23:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: OldDeckHand

How can they complain about tying up traffic when Muslims are allowed to prostrate themselves several times a day in the street in front of a mosque?


55 posted on 04/22/2011 5:23:47 PM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, you know how sensitive they are...


56 posted on 04/22/2011 5:26:45 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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The problems with the koran burning and the WTC Mosque

In all this argument of recent days, the most important fact of the matter has been obvious from the start, but is rarely spoken of by the media or the public.

Regarding the Florida koran burning, has anyone stepped back and listened to what people are saying in detail? The first thing a person will hear is how that Pastor has the Constitutional right to do what he is doing.

The next series of statements, however, are always the majority of statements made in these conversations, namely: It is the wrong thing to do, it is inciteful, it is a cult in Florida, muslims will hate us, it will endanger the troops, and, most importantly for this conversation: we are not at war against a religion, but extremists of that religion.

This is important because of the islamic world’s reaction to this Florida Pastor; namely, that the islamic world immediately protested the planned koran burning by condemning the entire country of the United States and marched and chanted promoting our deaths to cries of “DEATH TO AMERICA!”

The response by virtually all American politicians has been an apologetic tone, one where they immediately call for the koran burning to stop, observations that it IS inciteful and that the threats to Americans at home and American Troops abroad are not acceptable and that the safety of the American public are paramount in this case.

Their tone has been to cower in fear at these threats. Not one politician has stepped forward and exclaimed, “Islam is not being attacked by an entire country or an entire religion, Islam is only being attacked by a radical. Islam needs to remember we are not all against Islam and threats to our safety are wrong and inciteful and hate filled.”

Not one. They cower to the islamic world, refuse to hold them to the same standard of behavior as they insist from their own people, refuse to insist that the Pastor in Florida is an anomaly and that the United States is no threat to islam.

What they did was bow in submission to the sensitivities of the islamic world and deny the Florida Pastor his civil rights to speak out like an American.

The islamic world will not notice. They will riot anyways. It is identical to the cartoonists in Denmark. All it took was one cartoonist to make a cartoon of Muhammad and the entire islamic world was in the streets and threatening to kill anyone who makes a cartoon of Muhammad.

Theo Van Gogh made a movie about this islamic submission in Holland, and they killed him for making the movie.

The Florida Koran burning case is quite similar to the Ground Zero mosque case with some significant differences. In Florida, the Pastor must stop his koran burning or there will be violence across the globe, and in fact, even if he does stop, there will be violence across the globe due to him stating he wanted to burn korans. In New York City, the Imam who wants to build a mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero, he said on CNN that if we move the mosque or deny it’s construction, there will be violence across the globe.

In both cases, if we do not submit to islamic sensitivities, there will be violence across the globe, in fact, even if we do submit to islamic sensitivities, there will most likely be violence anyways due to the fact that we spoke of those things.

Free speech is threatened in Florida, and a new twist is happening in New York City, something that Israel has seen does not work, and that is LAND FOR PEACE.

The Ground Zero mosque is about LAND FOR PEACE. If we give islam the land to make a mosque, there will be peace. If we do not give islam the land, there will be violence.

Think this through people. In both of these cases, neither has anything to do with the original concerns people expressed. It is solely about whether we submit to islamic sensitivities or have violence.

It is about Islamic blackmail of the United States.

James Bancroft USMC 1977-1981


57 posted on 04/22/2011 5:36:26 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Same community where the public high school holds football practice at midnight to accommodate Muslims and Ramadan.


58 posted on 04/22/2011 5:46:18 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

In the “Good and Welfare Clause”! Just ax Congressman John Conyers if you don’t believe me!


59 posted on 04/22/2011 5:51:45 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: opentalk
Same community where the public high school holds football practice at midnight to accommodate Muslims and Ramadan.

Pigskin???

60 posted on 04/22/2011 5:52:17 PM PDT by reg45
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