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Florida murders: Britons 'forced at gunpoint to go to run-down housing estate'
daily mail ^ | 4-22-2011 | james cooper

Posted on 04/22/2011 7:21:12 PM PDT by Stayfrosty

Police investigating the murder of two British tourists in Florida believe they were ordered at gunpoint into a run-down housing estate where they were robbed before being shot dead.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Florida; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; blacks; florida; ghetto; holderspeople; unitedkingdom; usanextafrica; violence
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Attacks against whites from blacks are on the up tick... i'm just saying... where is the msm now?
1 posted on 04/22/2011 7:21:18 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Stayfrosty
And where are the poverty pimps, speaking out about black on white violence?.......crickets chirping.

If it has been two British tourists who mugged and then murdered a brutha they would be on the first plane to FL.
2 posted on 04/22/2011 7:24:37 PM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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To: Stayfrosty
Yeah that girl in the McDonalds

Miami had this problem before and Florida change license plates so animals couldn't tell if they were tourist.

3 posted on 04/22/2011 7:24:51 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Stayfrosty

It only becomes a race war when blacks are the victim.


4 posted on 04/22/2011 7:25:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Stayfrosty

From approximately ten years ago: Fred articles on race relations and potential future civil war:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Blowup.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Stability.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Underclass.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Opportunity.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Assimilation.shtml


5 posted on 04/22/2011 7:26:34 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Stayfrosty
Just to mention.. Amish: It's played.

6 posted on 04/22/2011 7:28:19 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“It only becomes a race war when blacks are the victim.”

Yeh otherwise its just beat whitey night.


7 posted on 04/22/2011 7:29:33 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RobRoy

Well they claimed after rodney king it was a “war” but it just seems to me like the black community has unofficially declared war on whites. There have been a lot of attacks recently that have singled out whites. I think this nation is becoming ever more divided and segregated than ANY other time before. What a tragedy. The black leaders really need to get control of their neighborhoods, families, and communities before the feds or vigilantes do and things escalate out of control.


8 posted on 04/22/2011 7:30:01 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Stayfrosty

This will not end well for the black Democrats!


9 posted on 04/22/2011 7:32:35 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Stayfrosty
In Florida, foreign tourists are targeted because they are the only prospective victims that perps can be reasonably sure are unarmed.

Florida was one of the first CCW states, and a lot of perps died during the commission of crimes during the first few years.

10 posted on 04/22/2011 7:33:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My wife and I both carry.No beat whitey night around here.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 7:33:59 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Stayfrosty
police in Sarasota remain convinced they died as a result of a botched robbery.

Botched robbery? The robbery was going just fine until the feral thug decided to escalate it to murder.

12 posted on 04/22/2011 7:36:13 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Stayfrosty

Perhaps, after reading this horrendous story, Britons will have a better apprectiation for the 2A.


13 posted on 04/22/2011 7:37:06 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: RobRoy

Considering that I am an avid hunter and own many of the accoutrements necessary to pursue that pastime ... bring it. Once out of the ghetto, the thought patterns might change when confronted my hunters and gun owners that acutely know how to shoot. And no, I have never shot a pistol holding on the horizontal ... hard to anticipate the kick in that position.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 7:37:11 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: Stayfrosty

The last time I was down there, they had big smiley faces on the road signs. It was made VERY clear that those roads led to the ghetto.


15 posted on 04/22/2011 7:38:47 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: All

Click The Pic

16 posted on 04/22/2011 7:39:09 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Stayfrosty

Nothing has really changed....and sadly that is the problem....trillions of dollars trying to educate and improve some people.....and nothing has changed.


17 posted on 04/22/2011 7:41:28 PM PDT by There You Go Again
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To: Red in Blue PA
Perhaps, after reading this horrendous story, Britons will have a better apprectiation for the 2A.

Perhaps, after reading this horrendous story, Britons will know better than to spend their vacations in places that have been overrun by quasi-humanoid mutants.

18 posted on 04/22/2011 7:42:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: doc1019

We shoot woodchucks at 400 yards,larger varmints at that distance would be so easy..


19 posted on 04/22/2011 7:42:46 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
foreign tourists are targeted because they are the only prospective victims that perps can be reasonably sure are unarmed.

Yep, quite a while ago if used to be in state rental cars used to identify the tourists. Now the thugs are even more careful, they look for the foreign tourists.

20 posted on 04/22/2011 7:44:01 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Stayfrosty
After the McD's video and an incident I had with a car load of black women at my local supermarket this past Sunday, I say its not far away!

I have noticed that the brazen aggression, especially with black women, has gotten outright bold. As if they now expect the white population to serve them, give them everything.

As far as the incident..I was parked at the supermarket, sipping my coffee, front parking spot next to handicap. She pulled into the handicap taking 2 handicap spaces and got out of her suv screaming at me that she wanted my spot! Next thing I saw were doors opening (tinted windows) and 3 other black trash ho's coming out screaming at me.

I left because I know that there is no camera facing that area of parking. 4 against one on paper witness statements?

I left with all 4 of their fat behinds running after me.

My buddy manages the store and they are getting ready to knock it down and build a superstore. It is located in an upscale area. The supermarket is top fortune 500, privately owned and as far as Im concerned invented the supermarket of today. www.wegmans.com

21 posted on 04/22/2011 7:44:19 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: Stayfrosty

Why does it say both the Daily Mail and The Telegraph?


22 posted on 04/22/2011 7:44:38 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: Farmer Dean

I understand that an old British .303 with a 250grain projectile is great for getting rid of larger varmints (little heavy, but great for deer). Just say’n.


23 posted on 04/22/2011 7:50:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: There You Go Again

Mayhap because these trillions were given rather then earned.


24 posted on 04/22/2011 7:52:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Yeh pretty much we are always armed at night in our house and in our yard.


25 posted on 04/22/2011 7:56:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Stayfrosty
Scary...

Sarasota is just a small, college town....of course, every town has its 'criminal element'.....

..why didn't these guys have a ride....especially with relatives close by?....Longboat Key is not within easy walking distance to Sarasota......but it's not that far either.

26 posted on 04/22/2011 8:02:22 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Stayfrosty

The Brits will blame guns, America everything except the obvious.


27 posted on 04/22/2011 8:03:08 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: Stayfrosty
The black leaders really need to get control of their neighborhoods, families, and communities before the feds or vigilantes do and things escalate out of control.

The feds are part of the problem.

28 posted on 04/22/2011 8:06:59 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Stayfrosty
i guess putting a big skull and crossed bones sign on their borders is out of the question...
29 posted on 04/22/2011 8:16:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Stayfrosty

Any numbers to support that, or just high-exposure news stories?


30 posted on 04/22/2011 8:17:04 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Stayfrosty

The shooter was 16 yars old. Not really old enough to have experienced a lot of racist behavior by whites or to have been refused to be hired because of his color.

Where did he learn to hate Whitey, to rob, to steal, to murder?

Right in his neighborhood.
He was taught by other blacks to hate whitey, he was taught that whitey owes him because his Great Great Great grandparents were sold by other blacks in Africa and forced to work.
That’s what many blacks do ,especially ghetto blacks who cannot take responsibility for their own failure.
They teach their children that Whitey is the enemy, Jesse and Al provide the further proof to them and they feel justified to kill ,murder, rob.
Now I am willing to listen to anyone who can prove me wrong, but just remember, this kid is 16 years old, he didnt learn to be a murderer because some white person offended him.


31 posted on 04/22/2011 8:26:35 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Sad but absolutely true. What’s even sadder is people have to become victims of their hate before they believe it for themselves.


32 posted on 04/22/2011 8:36:58 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Molon Labbie
We live pretty rural, no African Americans within 200 miles of my house; and I had blk buddies in the military years back that I wouldn't mind living nx door to me right now. When I read these stories, I wonder when will some of them figure it out; maybe in prison?

We have Indians that live separate from the Whites, heck they don't want to be around most of the White culture; but they are all pretty good. They suffer from alcohol and related problems but no where near as criminal, violent, and just vicious as the minorities you find in the Cities. They don't have all that much, but never steal or rob either.

Makes me wonder about the races, genetics, and our Nations attempt to socially correct everything that is wrong; what a waste of time. I'm sure glad I live right where I do too.

33 posted on 04/22/2011 9:08:38 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Stayfrosty
He had been out of jail less than 12 hours when he allegedly carried out the killings.

Words escape me.

34 posted on 04/22/2011 9:28:24 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: Stayfrosty

Eh,,,I do not think it is a black/white thing. It is a roll the rube tourist thing.

Living in Florida in a very ethnic town I don’t ever really feel a hate whitey vibe.

Of course most of my friends and I always carry, just because...


35 posted on 04/22/2011 9:41:59 PM PDT by TheGarbone
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To: shadowcat
Ah, yes, you've touched on one of my pet peeves, something I've been noticing much more of over the past year or so. Handicap spots at the local Wal-Mart being taken by non-handicapped, usually AA individuals carrying extra weight, to be kind. Just another example of laws not meaning anything to these folks.
36 posted on 04/22/2011 10:10:00 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (RINO's are more interested in defeating conservatives than they are in defeating Marxists.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Perhaps, after reading this horrendous story, Britons will know better than to spend their vacations in places that have been overrun by quasi-humanoid mutants.

Perhaps there's money to be made by operating GUN RENTAL shops outside every Florida airport! You land, you clear customs, you rent a car and a gun.... If, in conjunction with that, some sort of fast-track temporary CCW for foreign visitors could be arranged with the state, that would be a perfect solution.

37 posted on 04/22/2011 10:16:36 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Stayfrosty

Whenever I have to walk through a spooky parking garage, I thank my lucky stars for this country’s high rate of abortion and birth control. Millions of feral unwanted children not being born are making it safer.


38 posted on 04/22/2011 10:21:46 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Stayfrosty

This isn’t a racial incident per se. Just watch “The First 48” occasionally. This is everyday behavior in the “hood”.


39 posted on 04/22/2011 10:25:44 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Cheetahcat

This will not end well for the black Democrats!


Things like this haven’t phased them in the past. Why now?


40 posted on 04/22/2011 10:43:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Farmer Dean

We shoot woodchucks at 400 yards,larger varmints at that distance would be so easy..


Yep, and no harder to do than killing a rattle snake. And you don’t have to see the mess at that distance.


41 posted on 04/22/2011 10:46:38 PM PDT by unkus
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Where’s the “Dats wasist” kid?

That’s disgusting. You were smart to leave. I’d have honked the horn to get their attention and then flipped them off.


42 posted on 04/22/2011 10:52:40 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yeh pretty much we are always armed at night in our house and in our yard.


Stay safe.


43 posted on 04/22/2011 10:53:39 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Guenevere
..why didn't these guys have a ride....especially with relatives close by?....Longboat Key is not within easy walking distance to Sarasota......but it's not that far either.


Because the Brits are used to walking. It was only a 20 minute walk or so to the IHOP I gather, no problem for two fit (but somewhat drunk?) young guys.

A taxi would have been much better...

44 posted on 04/22/2011 10:58:19 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: Stayfrosty

A while back I was following the Jack Wheeler murder. Frequent descriptions to explain his disappearance and subsequent murder were always along the lines of ‘wandered into a known high-crime area’

Haven’t we had enough of ‘known high-crime areas’? How many billions have we taxpayers poured into ‘projects’ and ‘urban housing’ (and its public-assistance inhabitants), only to have created areas where citizens fear to tread. Is it any different, say, than the islamic takeover of sections of French cities where French police dare not enter? Or the takeover of entire regions in Somalia and sudan by genocide? Why do we let this go on?

Warehousing citizens in ‘urban projects’ is an abysmal failure. Either we occupy these sections (and I do mean occupy, as in military) or we pull them down but we can’t continue to ignore the problem and expect the problem to fix itself.


45 posted on 04/22/2011 11:24:30 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: unkus

“This will not end well for the black Democrats!

Things like this haven’t phased them in the past. Why now?”

They have used up, the race card is why!


46 posted on 04/22/2011 11:33:12 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Stayfrosty; Travis McGee

No worries average cracker today won’t bust a grape on a black thug and they know it

Most hipster class white boys today would hand up their little sister before their I-Pod


49 posted on 04/23/2011 12:53:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: unkus

Indeed.Superior marksmanship has many benefits.


50 posted on 04/23/2011 3:15:15 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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