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T&T Tactical Owner and Son Arrested in Undercover Investigation
newhydepark.patch.com ^ | February 17, 2011 | Matthew Hogan

Posted on 04/23/2011 11:47:28 AM PDT by neverdem

Nine people arrested in total following an undercover investigation into the sale of assault weapons at gun shops throughout Nassau County.

The owner of a New Hyde Park business and his son were among nine people arrested following an undercover investigation into the sale of assault weapons at gun shops throughout the county, Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice announced Thursday.

Bellmore residents Martin Tretola, 55, owner of T&T Gunnery in Seaford and T&T Tactical in New Hyde Park and his son Thomas Tretola, 24, who is also one of his father's employees, were both arrested as a result of the investigation.

Three other employees of Tretola's shops were also arrested.

During the 10-month probe, four Nassau County gun shops illegally sold assault weapons to undercover DA investigators and members of the New York State Police, Rice said. As a result of the investigation, Rice's office has arrested and charged four store owners and five of their employees.

Under New York State law, only police officers, peace officers, and duly authorized members of the military are legally permitted to possess assault weapons.

One category of an assault weapon is defined as a semi-automatic rifle with the ability to accept a magazine carrying more than five rounds of ammunition and that must also have at least two additional characteristics. These additional characteristics can include a folding or telescoping stock, a protruding pistol grip, a bayonette mount, a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, or a grenade launcher.

Rice said that shop owners were breaking the law by temporarily modifying the weapons to appear as though they lacked the required characteristics of an assault weapon. However, the temporary modification was easily reversible, thereby making them full-fledged assault weapons. For example, a pin was placed in the stock of a weapon in an attempt to prevent its collapse. However, the pins were designed to be easily removable making the stock collapsible.

Rice said Martin Tretola went so far as to demonstrate to undercover officers how to remove the temporary pin from the fixed stock making it collapsible. Both T&T Gunnery and Hunter Sports were on notice that civilians who purchased these weapons from their stores had been arrested and charged with illegal possession of an assault weapon in both Nassau and Suffolk counties, but they continued to sell these weapons.

"The nine men arrested today were openly breaking the law, making a practice of putting profits before the safety of our citizens, and flooding our streets with dangerous assault weapons," Rice said. "Make no mistake, these are combat-specific weapons and not intended for hunting. They have no place on our streets or in the hands of civilians."

Martin Tretola, the owner of two gun shops in Nassau County, is charged with Criminal Sale of a Firearm in the Second Degree, Unlawfully Disposing of an Assault Weapon, and a misdemeanor violation of the Firearms Licensing Provisions. T&T Tactical was charged with Criminal Sale of a Firearm in the First and Second Degrees. He faces up to 15 years in prison.

Martin Tretola's Seaford business, T&T Gunnery, has been charged with Criminal Sale of a Firearm in the First and Second Degrees. His New Hyde Park business, T&T Tactical, along with the following defendants and businesses are charged with Unlawfully Disposing of an Assault Weapon and a misdemeanor violation of the Firearms Licensing Provision. Each individual defendant faces up to seven years in prison and each business faces up to a $10,000 fine per felony or double the company's gain from the criminal conduct.

Four of Martin Tretola's employees were also charged as follows:

The charges are merely accusations and the defendants are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; longisland
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1 posted on 04/23/2011 11:47:31 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If they’d sold the weapons to messican drug cartels it would have been OK though.


2 posted on 04/23/2011 11:49:43 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: neverdem

Long Island NY


3 posted on 04/23/2011 11:54:17 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: neverdem

The 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting any more than the 1st amendment is about comic books.


4 posted on 04/23/2011 11:54:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: neverdem
So in New York State we (the people) can purchase rifles that can be selectively switched to fully automatic?
5 posted on 04/23/2011 11:55:02 AM PDT by fella (... if sinners entice thee, consent thou not. Prov.1:10)
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To: neverdem

So they were arrested for making cosmetic changes to weapons that are legal in most of the Free United States?


6 posted on 04/23/2011 11:55:46 AM PDT by EricT. (I'm going to spend 68% more than I make this year- I hear it's the responsible thing to do..)
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To: neverdem

Oh no, Mr. Bill! Selling rifles that have a removable pin! That definitely makes those rifles far more dangerous than if the pin wasn’t removable, don’t you think? Glad to see the the NY police applied so much time, money and effort to stop this incredible madness. I’m sure our communities are so much safer without those removable pins!


8 posted on 04/23/2011 12:06:43 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff! "Anybody but Obama in 2012!")
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To: neverdem

These poor guys are going to experience the full force of tyranny during this trial (as if they haven’t already). I hope they have great lawyers.

If you are ever on a federal jury, don’t believe a word you hear or read that originates from an agent of the federal government. Never. They lie as easy as they breath.


9 posted on 04/23/2011 12:09:56 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal, if an idea is a complete & utter disaster, it's only because there's not enough of it.)
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To: 43north

Beat me to it.


10 posted on 04/23/2011 12:11:07 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: neverdem
"The nine men arrested today were openly breaking the law, making a practice of putting profits before the safety of our citizens, and flooding our streets with dangerous assault weapons,"

Because an AR rifle is more deadly with an adjustable stock than one with a fixed stock.

11 posted on 04/23/2011 12:11:24 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: neverdem
 
 
 
Good grief - all that time and resources just to bag people for what amounts to cosmetic changes. Nasty way to shut down a gun shop. Even if the T&T folk manage to beat that rap, it'll still cost them everything they have.  A win-win for the totalitarians of NY state.
 
 
 

12 posted on 04/23/2011 12:13:11 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: neverdem
Under New York State law, only police officers, peace officers, and duly authorized members of the military are legally permitted to possess assault weapons.

this is not accurate - Gander Mtn sells flat tops all day long

13 posted on 04/23/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: neverdem

Everyone knows that Arizona gun shops told ATF about shady “AW” sales.

But they also told the ATF that they also saw straw-buyers pick up the weapon legally, and then while still in the shop, physically hand the AW over to a final recipient, who then paid the buyer get PAID by the final recipient of the “AW”.

THAT is what bona-fide criminals were permitted to get away with.


14 posted on 04/23/2011 12:16:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Revelation 911
Using that logic every car owner should be arrested.

You can push the pedal down to go the speed limit or you can hold it down and go 120mph.

15 posted on 04/23/2011 12:19:07 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: fella
"Rice said Martin Tretola went so far as to demonstrate to undercover officers how to remove the temporary pin from the fixed stock making it collapsible."

I believe that's at the heart of this dispicable crime, the making and or selling of so called "assault weapons" with collapsible stocks. /s

So in New York State we (the people) can purchase rifles that can be selectively switched to fully automatic?

IIRC, selective fire or full automatic firearms are verboten for peons in NY.

16 posted on 04/23/2011 12:20:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

They should just tell the feds they thought the guns were for export to Mexico.


17 posted on 04/23/2011 12:22:19 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: neverdem

New York...where 2nd amendment rights end and Marxist lunacy begins. Kudos to the gun shop owners for championing the liberty of American gun buyers.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 12:26:28 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: neverdem

My God...New York has become an affront to the American way of life.


19 posted on 04/23/2011 12:27:56 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: fella
So in New York State we (the people) can purchase rifles that can be selectively switched to fully automatic?

No. I believe posession of that type of firearm violates Federal law and requires an FFL to possess.

20 posted on 04/23/2011 12:29:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (We have become a culture where earning money does not entitle you to it; but wanting it does...)
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To: neverdem

Idiot laws passed by idiot legislators and enforced by idiot police and DAs. Plus, these laws infringe on our Second Amendment rights as it covers all firearms and similar self defense weapons. Self defense includes the defense against a tyrant government.

These law enforcement assets would be better spent or directed against real criminals who rob, assault and kill we honest citizens.


21 posted on 04/23/2011 12:29:36 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I like it.
Consider it, Sir, “appropriated” ;)


22 posted on 04/23/2011 12:39:43 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: neverdem

What a complete load of BS. Where do the “journalists” get their info from because we all know that an adjustable stock or a flash suppressor makes a gun really, really dangerous.

The issue here is Nassau County’s post ban configuration requirements that adopt a specious definition of an assualt weapon. Did these shops sell full-auto, select fire weapons to unlicensed customers...no. Did they sell grenade launchers or RPGs to drug lords...no. They sold semi-auto guns under the law as it stands in 99.9% of the country.


23 posted on 04/23/2011 12:44:28 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower; marktwain

Another reason for folks to move to a free state.


24 posted on 04/23/2011 12:45:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

So where are the assault weapons?


25 posted on 04/23/2011 12:54:52 PM PDT by fella (... if sinners entice thee, consent thou not. Prov.1:10)
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To: neverdem

When thugs strike, there should be retribution until they are afraid to strike again.


26 posted on 04/23/2011 1:03:53 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not so...in most states a person can own a full-auto weapon by applying to the NFA branch of the ATF along with fingerprints, $200 and the serial number of the weapon you’re buying.

The ATF will conduct a background check, as will the local LEO’s, and in six months or so you’ll get a tax stamp showing you are the legal owner of the weapon.

You can then receive said weapon, and can take it and shoot it anywhere in your state where it’s legal, as long as you have copies of the tax stamp, and if you wish to take it across state lines, or send it to a Class III manufacturer to repair, you file a request with the ATF to do so.

Ed


27 posted on 04/23/2011 1:08:01 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: neverdem

Cross over into a free state like PA and all those “goodies” are legal on weapons.AMAZING WHAT YOU SEE AT THE RANGE !


28 posted on 04/23/2011 1:10:38 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: neverdem

“Did you really think we want those laws observed? We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men.

“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

“Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt.

“Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” —Dr. Floyd Ferris (ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand, 1957)


29 posted on 04/23/2011 1:17:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If you wish to be a success in the world, promise everything, deliver nothing." -Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So true. It’d make a good tagline, too.


30 posted on 04/23/2011 2:54:14 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: TruthBeforeAll

No one has spoke more thruth!

Was on a meth lab Fed Jury and the DEA was worse than Keystone Cops and made up shite with every breathe even though they didn’t need to as the hard evidence was plenty to convict.


31 posted on 04/23/2011 2:57:50 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: neverdem
"Make no mistake, these are combat-specific weapons and not intended for hunting. They have no place on our streets or in the hands of civilians."

Laughable, transparent propaganda from the DA's office.

Do New Yorkers actually believe this shit? Does anyone?

32 posted on 04/23/2011 3:01:06 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Sir_Ed
Thanks for the correction. I knew an FFL would put you in a position to own such but would, in fact, be be overkill if you do not intend to resell same.

Either way...it is an intrusive, onerous and if I might add...reprehensible process that goes against the very spirit and letter of the 2nd Amendment. Just sayin'.

33 posted on 04/23/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (We have become a culture where earning money does not entitle you to it; but wanting it does...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

At the top of the quotes on my FR profile page.


34 posted on 04/23/2011 3:20:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thank you for posting my all-time favorite quote from any novel.

It is a cautionary tale for our times...but...I preach to the choir.

35 posted on 04/23/2011 3:33:50 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (We have become a culture where earning money does not entitle you to it; but wanting it does...)
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To: neverdem
"One category of an assault weapon is defined..."

Therein we have the big lie! Probably this makes 80% of the long gun owners in the U.S. criminals in the eyes of NY.

Assault weapon definition soon to include the pickup truck and SUV...

36 posted on 04/23/2011 3:59:44 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: fella

>So in New York State we (the people) can purchase rifles that can be selectively switched to fully automatic?<

Absolutely not


37 posted on 04/23/2011 5:05:51 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: EricT.

No they were arrested for making cosmetic changes to weapons that are outlawed - to make them appear as though they were not the same. But the cosmetic changes could be taken away by the new owners without a problem. Thus reverting them to a gun that has been banned


38 posted on 04/23/2011 5:07:22 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Revelation 911

>this is not accurate - Gander Mtn sells flat tops all day long<

I think what they meant was machine guns. But they confused the issue your right


39 posted on 04/23/2011 5:09:07 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: papertyger

>My God...New York has become an affront to the American way of life.<

Yup, NY has some of the strictest gun laws on the books. and the biggest problem is that they are never satisfied with them. They always want more


40 posted on 04/23/2011 5:10:27 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: SuperLuminal

>Therein we have the big lie! Probably this makes 80% of the long gun owners in the U.S. criminals in the eyes of NY.

Assault weapon definition soon to include the pickup truck and SUV...<

A pick up truck and SUV along with any other motor vehicle is defined as a “dangerous instrument” in New York ..

so they beat you to it


41 posted on 04/23/2011 5:12:52 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Sounds like a good reason to leave those tyrannical Police States and move to the Free United States.

You can buy and sell good semi-auto rifles all day long down here in the Peach State without worrying about a squad of goose-stepping jackboots tossing you in jail.


42 posted on 04/23/2011 5:32:24 PM PDT by EricT. (I'm going to spend 68% more than I make this year- I hear it's the responsible thing to do..)
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To: neverdem

While the NYS police are on the hunt for collapsing-stock rifles, a serial killer has dumped at least 10 bodies in the weeds along Long Island’s roadways. Great allocation of police presence, eh? What a bunch of morons.....


43 posted on 04/23/2011 5:44:45 PM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: sargon
"Make no mistake, these are combat-specific weapons and not intended for hunting. They have no place on our streets or in the hands of civilians."

Do New Yorkers actually believe this shit? Does anyone?

I'm afraid maybe most do. Towns mentioned in the story, Seaford and New Hyde Park, are in or near Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy's district. IIRC, she wants to sponsor some gun grabbing bill in the House. The fools keep electing clowns like Chuck U Schumer and Bloomberg. Even Giuliani was a statist gun grabber. There are exceptions all over the state, but as a general rule only folks from north of NYC are usually good for RKBA.

44 posted on 04/23/2011 7:13:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: marktwain; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
Hat tip to marktwain whose thread lead me to this backround article.

T&T Tactical Is Fundraising for Legal Defense (NY)

Inmate gets organ transplant evaluation (child rapist, and you're picking up the tab)

NYC board: Trump hasn't voted in primary since '89

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

45 posted on 04/23/2011 7:38:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“There’s no controlling legal authority.”

Who’s in violation of the Constitution?


46 posted on 04/23/2011 7:45:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: TruthBeforeAll

These folks ae going to have the building fall on them. Nassau County’s law enforcement elements, the PD, DA, Crime Lab have been bungling their way to total incompetence.This will give the incompetent DA, Susan Rice, a chaance for media glory, and she hopes, save her pathetic career.


47 posted on 04/23/2011 8:22:42 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: Munz
"A pick up truck and SUV along with any other motor vehicle is defined as a “dangerous instrument” in New York ..
so they beat you to it "

Dang! Back in the Tammany Hall days only the ballot box was considered a "dangerous instrument".

48 posted on 04/23/2011 8:32:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I believe “fella” meant that the definition of an assault
rifle includes the ability to switch from semi to fully auto.


49 posted on 04/23/2011 9:26:20 PM PDT by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: sargon
"... Do New Yorkers actually believe this shit? Does anyone?"

Most New Yorkers are in favor of making felons out of people who put plastic grips onto otherwise legal rifles, or remove a pin from a fixed rifle stock to allow it to be shortened by an inch. People who do such things risk several years incarcerated in New York prisons.

However, criminals on Wall Street steal trillions from New Yorkers, get away with it scott-free, and nobody really pays much attention to it.

You really have to wonder about what the hell goes on in New York for people to be trained to think like that.

50 posted on 04/23/2011 9:44:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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