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GOP Kingmakers Wipe Tea PGOP Kingmakers Wipe Tea Party Seats Off Map
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Posted on 04/23/2011 2:03:02 PM PDT by deek69

Tea party lawmakers are being targeted for elimination by their own party, as old-guard Republicans use the Census-mandated redistricting process to erase seats won by last year’s upstarts, the National Journal reports. House freshmen from several GOP-majority states are in danger of losing out in a political realignment that rewards more connected veteran representatives. It may be cold comfort to tea partyers that the hostile redistricting process proves their point: They really don’t belong to the political establishment.

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KEYWORDS: charlesboustany; conservatives; establishment; establishmentscum; gop; jeffreylandry; oldguard; redistricting; republicans; rinos; scum; teaparty; whig20; whig2point0
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1 posted on 04/23/2011 2:03:09 PM PDT by deek69
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To: deek69

If true, then my days with the GOP are over.


2 posted on 04/23/2011 2:05:12 PM PDT by conservativepoet (The chief aim of order within Christianity is to make room for good things to romp and play.)
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To: deek69

So they want us to form a third party after the next elections? Really?!


3 posted on 04/23/2011 2:07:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: deek69

No problem...make the Tea Party tsunami larger and it will wash them all away. Once the economy really turns south, this will become easeier.


4 posted on 04/23/2011 2:07:50 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: deek69
It proves what many have suspected for a long time, that democrats and republicans will do anything to prevent their two party monopoly on power from being threatened, even going as far as damaging their own interests to do so.
5 posted on 04/23/2011 2:08:46 PM PDT by apillar
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To: deek69

A party divided against itself cannot stand. If they can’t or won’t support the Tea Party, then the reverse MUST also be true. The principle of reciprocity allows no other option. No point to even playing the game, otherwise.


6 posted on 04/23/2011 2:10:02 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: deek69
Tea party lawmakers are being targeted for elimination by their own party

This and the fact that Trump had said if he does not win the nomination he may run as a Tea Party candidate. Nice work GOP.

7 posted on 04/23/2011 2:11:54 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: deek69

If true, this will be the demise of the Republican Party.
I wondered how Bible prophesy would be fulfilled so easily, now I know how we will become a third world country!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


8 posted on 04/23/2011 2:12:38 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: deek69
From the Newsmax article:

But even in faster-growing states that will hold all their seats, or gain seats, Republicans are eating their young and moving to protect well-connected incumbents over tea partyers.

The Republican party is on the verge of driving over the cliff with shenanigans such as this. Third parties are a losing game. The Old Guard must be defeated. We can't afford (or stomach) any more RINOs who just slow down the slide to socialism

9 posted on 04/23/2011 2:13:51 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: deek69

The Whigs tried to compromise with the opposition and shove aside reformers during the 1830's, 1840's and 1850's.

It's a well recognized truism that people and organizations who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

10 posted on 04/23/2011 2:14:39 PM PDT by Zakeet (I know Obama is level headed because he drools out of both sides of his mouth at the same time)
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To: deek69

Not much detail. We’ve seen a number of articles on the Texas House Speaker’s plan to eliminate the new conservative seats. This one adds a seat in Louisiana. Are there more?

I think it’s becoming more and more obvious that this is the GOP’s last chance to reform and save itself—and that it is flunking the test.

No choice but to kick them to the curb. That will take a strong, determined, and trustworthy leader. I don’t see anyone but Sarah Palin who can possibly do the job.

She has said that she would rather reform the party, but has quietly suggested that there is an alternative, if it refuses to reform. And she did a terrific job in Alaska, against the Republican Corrupt Bastards Club as well as the Democrats.


11 posted on 04/23/2011 2:14:46 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: deek69

To the GOP’s political peril.


12 posted on 04/23/2011 2:17:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: deek69; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ..

Whig 2.0

PING!


13 posted on 04/23/2011 2:17:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Cicero

Pretty obvious. The refusal, to help in Nevada and Delaware senate races, then to blame the Tea Partiers are the losses. They were unable to defeat Paul. If they can’t lead the band then they will disband. As I see it, the Freshmen ought to play this to the hilt and even join with Democrats in the House. They won’t be re-elected in 2012 if they play along with a clueless leadership.


14 posted on 04/23/2011 2:23:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: deek69
as old-guard Republicans use the Census-mandated redistricting process to erase seats won by last year’s upstarts

Wouldn't there be time before 2012 for some of the Tea Party winners—many of whom are now paired against each other within the same district—to move out of their districts, into districts held by some of the weaker RINOs, and give them expensive primary challenges? (Fighting fire with fire.)

16 posted on 04/23/2011 2:25:42 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: RobbyS
and even join with Democrats in the House.

Only if they agree to end the WOD and pull out of Libya and Afghanistan, should we join with the communists for those things only.

(That's right, I said Afghanistan. After the violence in that country over that pastor's Koran burning, why in heck should we protect them anymore? SCREW 'EM!!!)

17 posted on 04/23/2011 2:28:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: deek69

The Republican Party has been a rigged RINO machine for a long, long time. Ronald Reagan was one of the few conservatives who managed to break through.

Compare the Democrat’s presidential primaries with the Republicans. On the Dem side Hillary & Obama fought bitterly through all 50 states. On the Republican side RINO McCain was coronated in a rigged system. Republican columnists had been running powder-puff POW stories about McCain for a year, while ignoring his RINO voting record. Romney was the only candidate to run any attack ads against McCain, and all the candidates rolled over in a few weeks.

Also while the Democratic system split delegates based on votes, the Republicans have a winner-take-all system which allows the most left-wing candidate to get all the delegates in huge Democratic states like California.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 2:28:37 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; deek69; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; ...

TeaPartiers should immediately build organizations to challenge the establishment candidate. It seems that every time we are challenged, we run rather than stand up and fight.


19 posted on 04/23/2011 2:29:41 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: deek69

The gop wants a war with conservatives? You got it.


20 posted on 04/23/2011 2:39:16 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: tsowellfan

Trump needs to run as a ‘Rat candidate.


21 posted on 04/23/2011 2:40:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: conservativepoet
Do Conservative and Tea Party members need anymore proof the OP(formerly the GOP) never had any intention of accepting Conservative, limited government principles? The OP and the RATs are two factions of one big socialist Republicrat machine who have knowingly and willingly expanded Congress's powers beyond the enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution at the expense of the people's 10th Amendment rights so they can remain in power indefinitely.

It's time for the Tea Party movement to accept the fact they must sever their ties with the OP as they have done with the RATs if we are to ever return to the limited government principles in the Constitution.
22 posted on 04/23/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: deek69
Sorry to interject perspective, but this is a Newsmax spin (the headline is preposterous on its face) on an article in National Journal, a very liberal publication. They are inciting, and are sadly being rewarded here, infighting in the Republican Party. If read, this 'article' is very lame, giving one anecdoctal example of district in LA, which has "to give up one congressional seat because of sluggish population growth over the ten-year period counted by the latest Census".

C'Mon Man! We're smarter than this.

23 posted on 04/23/2011 2:45:39 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: deek69

The BIG GOVERNMENT GOP PARTY hates upstart conservatives more than democrats.

They have more in common with democrats than they do with the Tea Party and other conservatives.

Democrats just want to run things.

Conservatives want to change the system that keeps them fat and rolling in cash.

That would mean no more skimming, scamming and living high on the taxpayers’ money.


24 posted on 04/23/2011 2:46:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: deek69

We had 4 years of a “no new taxes, I see a new world order” Bush sr. 8 years majority in the house and senate and 8 years of Junior.. who helped gave us the community organzer and chief. So with this track record, the rinos and the pushing out of the teaparty I say we DONT give them a chance to fix what they wouldnt fix in 20 years if it is true what they say they will do with the tea party. They are sleeping in the same bed and eating from the same trough.


25 posted on 04/23/2011 2:48:31 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: deek69

Good luck GOP in getting your RINO POTUS candidate across the finish line.


26 posted on 04/23/2011 2:53:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Scott
But even in faster-growing states that will hold all their seats, or gain seats, Republicans are eating their young and moving to protect well-connected incumbents over tea partyers.

I'm not sure I believe all of this. Obviously any politician is going to look to improve his re election chances. What else would you expect?

But now if they were to split the tea party candidates district between a Dem and a republican thus helping the both incumbents, then the tea party would naturally move into the republicrats district where he would have a better chance of winning. That would be in states where they are losing seats.

I am not sure what they could do in states where they were gaining seats.
Either way, we have the final say and it is up to us to be aware and vote accordingly.

27 posted on 04/23/2011 2:58:18 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: deek69

When political parties aggrandize themselves at the expense of their nation and its people, it’s time to get rid of them.


28 posted on 04/23/2011 3:00:11 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

>> We’re smarter than this <<

Many are, many aren’t!


29 posted on 04/23/2011 3:02:32 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: deek69

The truth will out

The cream will rise to the top

Jesus has already defeated satan


30 posted on 04/23/2011 3:04:30 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: deek69

Is Newsmax usually reliable when it comes to reporting on the GOP, or is it just trying to generate ill-will within the Party for political purposes?


31 posted on 04/23/2011 3:06:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: oldbrowser

>> I’m not sure I believe all of this. <<

I’m with you. This article could just as easily have been concocted by the Obama administration’s “Ministry of Disinformation” — in order to sow discouragement and dissent among the conservative base.

(And judged by the responses on this thread, too many gullible FReepers seem to be taking the bait.)


32 posted on 04/23/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: deek69

And pro-elitist sNooze Max needs to wipe the $h!t eating grin off their faces.


33 posted on 04/23/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: deek69

It is time for the Tea Party to begin taking over the GOP.

No more patty-cakes.

Take the party over, and throw the corrupt dinosaurs out. No compromise, no “middle ground”. Oust them.


34 posted on 04/23/2011 3:06:57 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So they want us to form a third party afterbefore the next elections?
35 posted on 04/23/2011 3:08:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> “So they want us to form a third party after the next elections?” <<

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In their wildest dreams.

We’re going to make them the irrelevant wing of the GOP


36 posted on 04/23/2011 3:08:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: spintreebob

Stand up to the old senile has-beens.

Enough is enough.

However, I’ll need more info before I throw the R over the cliff.

Commie’s would love that.


37 posted on 04/23/2011 3:09:08 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: deek69

It seems the local and state country club Pubbies are striking back.

Over the years – when, to steal a line from Billy Joel, I wore a younger man’s clothes – I was involved with several pretty solid conservative candidates for Congress. One was a Democrat (Lawrence Patton McDonald) – because that was the only way he could win in that district. Those old-timers who know Larry’s record will tell you that he was a solid an anti-communist America Firster and more Republican than the Pubbies in nearby districts at the time. (His mother’s cousin was General George Patton from whom he got the middle name – and his incredible resolve and love of this country.)

Those other candidates ran as Republicans. Because I was a rabid Bircher back then (still am philosophically!), those candidates had to pass my rigid litmus test or I went looking for someone who did. For that reason, I hooked up with what the TRADITIONAL country club Pubbie establishment types believed were too radical for their refined tastes.

As those campaigns began to unfold and it became clear to the country clubbers that these guys 1) had a shot and 2) were pretty independent thinkers who would be hard to keep on the reservation once they got sworn in, the local Pubbies communicated that information to the Republican National HQ types who rather quickly sent in campaign “professionals” ostensibly to lock up the impending victory.

Instead, in nearly every case to which I was privy, these “professionals” proceeded to TORPEDO our guy’s campaign in subtle but effective ways.

From that experience I can tell you that the Pubbies at the HQ in D.C. would rather have a Democrat win a given district than have a pubbie up there who would embarrass them by refusing to follow the party line.

If YOU become involved in campaigns for solidly conservative, America and Constitution loving, hard-nosed, independent thinking candidates in 2012 and beyond – and I pray many of you do — please DO NOT trust any of those folks from GOP HQ in Washington. If they want to send you no-strings cash for your campaign, take it. If, however, they “suggest” sending in one of their “professionals,” tell them to fuggetaboutit.

They ARE WHO GOT US INTO THIS MESS AND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!

“The common and continual mischief of the spirit of Party is
sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to
discourage and restrain it.” G. Washington


38 posted on 04/23/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: Cicero
Texas appears to be the problem ~ there you have "open borders" folks at the top in both houses of the legislature ~ Just like in the old days you can hear 'em mumbling "gots to hab me some slaves" as they go about exterminating TEA Party guys.

Still, there's more than one proposal on the floor and it will ultimately benefit the Republicans and hurt the Democrats. As a practical matter I don't think you can mess around much with districts with a TEA Party candidate at the same time you are trying to maximize Republican districts and minimize Democrat districts.

So far there hasn't been a whole lot of detail OUTSIDE OF TEXAS that's getting reported on FreeRepublic. My guess is there's not a whole lot of it going on.

One guy yesterday gave Virginia as an example since the Senate seemed to have some screwy results. On the other hand the Senate is still run by the Democrats in Virginia so you expect that sort of thing. The Governor vetoed the layout and they are back to figuring it all out.

Eventually the Democrat senators will have give up some Democrat white senatorial seats to keep their hold on the chamber, and that'll probably benefit the TEA Party contingent a bit.

39 posted on 04/23/2011 3:11:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yldstrk

>> “Jesus has already defeated satan” <<

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Yep!

“Mystery, Babylon” is all that is left, and that is exactly who these elitists are.


40 posted on 04/23/2011 3:15:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Al B.; Brices Crossroads; onyx; Lakeshark; sarah fan UK; Josh Painter; Jim Robinson
Head's up on this story about the backstabbing good ol' boy GOP trying to undermine TEA Party candidates through redistricting. I have no doubt that there is truth in this, based on everything we've seen to date, including THIS:

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

These so-called party "leaders" REALLY tick me off!

41 posted on 04/23/2011 3:23:26 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: blackie
If true, this will be the demise of the Republican Party.

Yep, and when the Rats don't need 'em anymore, it won't be pretty. Even the Rats have no respect for other party traitors.

42 posted on 04/23/2011 3:26:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: deek69

Perhaps it is time to start laying some firm framework for a more permanent conservative Tea Party and let the RINO’s relegate themselves and the Republican Party to a minor party as what happened to the Whigs. Enough already of thee elitist b@stards.


43 posted on 04/23/2011 3:27:50 PM PDT by Ron H. (Only Republicans can turn "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" into an elevated art form!)
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To: Jim Scott
.... Third parties are a losing game. ....

If that were so then where is the Whig Party?!

44 posted on 04/23/2011 3:30:33 PM PDT by Ron H. (Only Republicans can turn "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" into an elevated art form!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“Sorry to interject perspective...this ‘article’ is very lame, giving one anecdoctal example of district in LA”

It’s also happening in Texas...


45 posted on 04/23/2011 3:32:01 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Al B.; Lakeshark; sarah fan UK; Jim Robinson; Syncro; RedMDer; musicman

That link no longer exists.

GRANDPA’s OLD PARTY is taking its last breath, by pulling this crap.

TEA PARTY is a lean and mean youngster and growing leaps and bounds.

Plus, we’re on a mission from God.


46 posted on 04/23/2011 3:33:48 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx
I must have screwed up the html in my rage...

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

47 posted on 04/23/2011 3:36:37 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

LOL. I think I’ve done that!


48 posted on 04/23/2011 3:38:19 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Servant of the Cross; All
More evidence:

Monumental Attack Against Texas Conservatives

Texas Redistricting Plan Punishes Texas Conservatives (ACTION NEEDED)

49 posted on 04/23/2011 3:40:37 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Qbert
Yes, the National Journal article lists cases in more states than LA. However, it is not some "GOP Kingmakers" intentionally disenfranchising 'Tea Party' candidates. There are real strategic questions with regard to the redistricting in order to have the best demographics, regardless of who the future candidates are. In Texas,

Republicans are unlikely to protect freshman Rep. Blake Farenthold, who won in a heavily Latino district. Many in the party establishment see his election as a fluke—the district he won has been held by a Democrat since its creation in 1982. Helping Farenthold would mean making his district less Latino, which would create major headaches for Republicans elsewhere because the party leaders would have to create another majority-Latino seat to comply with the Voting Rights Act.

50 posted on 04/23/2011 3:44:32 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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