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Fruit Nazi Showdown
Fascist Soup ^ | April 21, 2011 | michael suede

Posted on 04/24/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by bkopto

Educational video of a standoff between citizens in an RV who want to be left alone, exercising their 4th Amendment rights, and border "inspectors", looking for contraband fruit, who won't leave our heros alone, at the CA-AZ border. The drone chief "inspector" has the IQ of a broccoli.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: california; fourthamendment

1 posted on 04/24/2011 8:14:00 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Female was wrong to react the way she did.

The RV dopes are wrong because they are tying up the lane, blocking all those that are trapped behind them.

Fine, make your moral stand against the system but don’t make me sit there and waste time as you both act like idiots.


2 posted on 04/24/2011 8:19:44 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: bkopto
The people in the RV set this up to purposefully make a point, they were rude, belligerant and out of line.

I have gone through these stations dozens of times and have never had an issue.

3 posted on 04/24/2011 8:23:27 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: bkopto

In a motorcycle trip I took last year, I had to go through one of these stations when I entered California. I had a big laugh to myself thinking about smuggling “bootleg asparagus”.

However, it’s a state inspection, not the Federal government. If you don’t want to submit to it, you’re entirely within your rights to not enter the state.

These people were just being mean. Yes, the supervisor didn’t appear very bright. That doesn’t make it acceptable for you to belittle and torment the guy, He’s just trying to do his job.


4 posted on 04/24/2011 8:25:41 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: bkopto
"The drone chief "inspector" has the IQ of a broccoli."

Traveling between states in the US should never be restricted unless there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed.

Where is the warrant, Janet Napolitano?

Unless they are illegal aliens who are potential Democratic Party voter. Then they can come ad go as they please.

5 posted on 04/24/2011 8:34:17 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: bkopto

About the only thing that really jumps out at me in all of this, is why is there a boarder check point at all within the US continuous states?


6 posted on 04/24/2011 8:34:23 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I've got that freshly screwed feeling)
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To: Michael.SF.
A**holes who just want to F* with people because they can. These stations have been around for forty years, to keep agricultural pests from spreading and ruining peoples' crops. The jerks have no point, they stand on no principle. They are just that--obnoxious jerks.
7 posted on 04/24/2011 8:39:01 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bkopto
You're right.

It's better for someone to bring a pest in from one state and wipe out the ag business in another state than submit to a search.

Like here in Texas, it's someones right to bring cattle from a quarantined county into another county and wipe out the herds in that county.

Screw everyone else, it's their right.

8 posted on 04/24/2011 8:39:05 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: wmileo
It is a Kalifornia State inspection. The probable cause is because you have surrendered your right to not have health and safety inspections when you obtain your drivers license and registration.
9 posted on 04/24/2011 8:39:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Ignorance is its own reward eh? Why don't you do some homework and find out.
10 posted on 04/24/2011 8:41:43 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bkopto

The dopes in the RV are totally wrong...if they want to cross the border here, they have to do it on the states terms. It has nothing to do with commerce. They should have been arrested and/or committed. They did have recource...the could have turned around and gone back whereever they came from.


11 posted on 04/24/2011 8:44:32 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: bkopto
Inspections are made for a purpose. California's economy is supported in a very large way by agriculture and the revenues it generates. Allowing a pest to enter and infest and possibly destroy crops is not in anyone's interest. Therefore, inspections are a way of defending that revenue source.

Yes, there are other revenue sources, but did you ever try to eat a computer chip or a movie?

12 posted on 04/24/2011 8:45:18 AM PDT by stboz
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To: bkopto

Godwin’s law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990 which has become an Internet adage.

It states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”

In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically “lost” whatever debate was in progress.


13 posted on 04/24/2011 8:48:47 AM PDT by tlb
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To: bkopto

I don’t even have to watch the video to know that the RV people are being ridiculous. That check point has been there forever. It was there back when I rode my dinosaur across the state line. It’s not new and they knew it. There’s a reason for not bringing in fruit and veggies with who knows what kind of bug on it. I was raised on a farm and can tell you an infestation of the wrong insect and you’ve lost your crops, your land, your whole livelihood.


14 posted on 04/24/2011 8:49:42 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Because I have no plans to go to California or Arizona so I really don’t care what they have.

Just the knowledge they have borders and not state lines is enough to keep me away - add checkpoints and no way.

Now, I know you think you pretty smart cookie but I’m not impressed.


15 posted on 04/24/2011 8:53:22 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I've got that freshly screwed feeling)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

My father did this for a living. As others have already said, it is to protect agriculture. In the early 70’s they shut down most of the California inspection stations thinking all the new pesticides would do the job. It did not work out and they had to reopen them.


16 posted on 04/24/2011 8:56:19 AM PDT by willk
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To: bgill
I don’t even have to watch the video to know that the RV people are being ridiculous. That check point has been there forever. It was there back when I rode my dinosaur across the state line. It’s not new and they knew it. There’s a reason for not bringing in fruit and veggies with who knows what kind of bug on it. I was raised on a farm and can tell you an infestation of the wrong insect and you’ve lost your crops, your land, your whole livelihood.

Not only that, there are several roads that don't even have check points if you wish to enter CA from any state.

17 posted on 04/24/2011 8:57:09 AM PDT by calex59
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To: willk

Thank you for taking the time and posting an examination.


18 posted on 04/24/2011 9:02:34 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I've got that freshly screwed feeling)
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To: bkopto

Funny, I never deal with a CA Agriculture checkpoint when I fly there !


19 posted on 04/24/2011 9:11:09 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: wmileo
Traveling between states in the US should never be restricted unless there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed.

Did you give a second to wonder why there is an inspection post at the border?

Much of the food grown in the United States is grown in California. Protecting that food supply from pest is necessary.

20 posted on 04/24/2011 9:13:28 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: calex59

All said, the California Inspection stations are a joke. We came back into California recently from Las Vegas. The Ag Inspection Station straddles I 15 just east of Barstow ( more than 150 miles inslde the state). We wondered, on a Sunday afternoon, why the freeway was stopped just outside Baker. It took two hours to reach the “accident,” the Ag Inspection station. The funny thing was we saw an 18 wheeler leave the freeway at Baker and proceed on the frontage road, as were all the folks in the know. At the Ag Inspection station you could see the congo line on the frontage road bypassing the check point. But at the end, they weren’t inspecting anything, you just had to slow down to a crawl so the moron in the dayglo vest could inquire as to where you’ve been! The person indeed looked brain dead, just a gov’t automaton putting in his time. I’m all for keeping California agriculture pest free, but these stations aren’t doing the job, they’re just a major inconvenience.


21 posted on 04/24/2011 9:21:20 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: vette6387

Looking at San Francisco and recent laws tells us they’re not doing a very good job keeping the fruits out of California.


22 posted on 04/24/2011 9:24:04 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: tlb

Godwin is a Nazi and so are you?


23 posted on 04/24/2011 9:25:24 AM PDT by kenavi ("Anything that can't stand up to ribbing isn't worth much to begin with." Eric Idle)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
So it is OK to stop some person who looks like a citizen of the United States but it is not OK to stop the same vehicle if the occupants look like they might not be U.S. Citizens?

Keep this up and the only folks who get stopped for anything will be law abiding solid citizens while the lawbreakers can come and go as they please.

We need to protect the citizens and taxpayers of the United States from two legged pests.

24 posted on 04/24/2011 10:15:02 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: bkopto

Watching this video made me want to see two RV’ers get their a$$e$ kicked by a big ol’ piece of brocoli. They were jerks.


25 posted on 04/24/2011 10:46:26 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: bkopto
I guess the original “jerks” were the founders who did not put an exemption in the 4th Amendment for fruits and vegetables.

I guess anyone questioning the constitutionality of unconstitutional searches are jerks.

I guess there are too many of the non-jerks who willingly submit to unconstitutional acts of government agencies to render the constitution irrelevant. Proof of this is evident in the comments of many of our politicians that the government can do anything and ridiculing those of us who still believe in the brilliance of those who on the FR of all places are now called jerks.

What has been missed or ignored by so many on this thread is the government thug was going to use whatever force possible to harass the people in the RV because they were taping the actions of government officials.

I had the JBT types demand a search of my RV at Mr. Rushmore using bomb sniffing dogs. Well folks, just like any human who works for the government the dogs were too lazy to ID all the LEGAL fireworks packed into the RV. /sarcasm as I am sure the dogs were looking for another type of explosive.

I only wished I had demanded a search warrant DETAILING what was being searched for BECAUSE as all of you have missed here, if the occupants of the RV allowed this search without a warrant anything which was found could be used against them and it would not be limited to fruits and vegetables.

If you give consent to be searched without a warrant you are a jerk because you have exposed yourself to just about anything the JBTs want to drum up.

26 posted on 04/24/2011 11:24:01 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Wurlitzer

One more point! If it is soooooooooo important to inspect for fruits and vegetables (and I don’t doubt there is SOME need) why do the very same JBTs continue to allow the 3rd world sewer traffic over the Southern border? Do you think these law breakers have made sure they are not importing some dangerous bug?

Sure, I can hear the conversation right now: Jose, we are going to sneak over the border tonight to get welfare, free health care, free education, make sure you bring the drugs but by all means make sure you don’t bring that damned orange.


27 posted on 04/24/2011 11:29:34 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: willk

What other state has these kind of stations? I live in a big agricultural area and there are no inspection stations anywhere in the Midwest. I’ve driven all over the US and have never encountered a station like this from the Atlantic to the Rockies.

What makes California so special that they are the only state in the contiguous 48 to have this sort of inspection?


28 posted on 04/24/2011 11:30:15 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: bkopto

Extreme douchbaggery.


29 posted on 04/24/2011 11:41:20 AM PDT by stormer
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To: bkopto

They should have used an alternative solution. Sealed up the RV with the jerks in it, and pumped it full of DDT. Unseal it after 72 hours and tell the folks that they can drive on.


30 posted on 04/24/2011 11:59:55 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Scutter
However, it’s a state inspection, not the Federal government. If you don’t want to submit to it, you’re entirely within your rights to not enter the state.

Dirty little secret, get off the interstate and drive in on a state or county road. Their check points are all on the "freeways" (I use the term loosely)

Regards,
GtG

PS My last trip to CA I drove from Nevada on a back road to Scottie's Castle in Death Valley. Did a little sight seeing and ended up in Mohave CA. I like the scenic route when ever possible.

31 posted on 04/24/2011 12:06:27 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Scutter
I agree with these people. I don't think a state has the right to violate the freedom to travel or the 4th Amendment simply because it has an interest in protecting its agriculture. I have the same issue with a state stopping people at its border that these people do. HOWEVER, these agricultural inspections at the border have been conducted by the State of California for at least 60 years, probably longer. I would be very surprised if someone at some point in time has not tested the Constitutionality of these checkpoints and lost. If they have not, then it is definitely something that these people should do. If it has been litigated, then they would have to overcome the existing judicial reasoning in order to win their case.

As to their mention of federal border stops, the federal government's role in protecting the border is constitutionally-based. A long line of decisions spells out the FEDERAL government's rights in connection with a border stop and inspection. Those cases relate in large part to the interest in policing smuggling. The courts have definitely been expansive on border stops in recent decades, allowing the Feds to conduct them far from the actual border. I personally think that is wrong, that you can't stop every car at a customs checkpoint 70 miles from the border and call it a border stop. But current law allows it, and if you want to fight it, the Supreme Court would have to overturn its own precedent. Good luck with that.

After the tape shut down, I wonder what happened? I will bet you the state conducted its inspection.

32 posted on 04/24/2011 12:37:58 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

They wave me on through on the motorcycle. What is the purpose of these? Is it concern that the produce will have some pest on it that will impact California crops? I know we have some rules here in Washington regarding apple transport for just that reason.


33 posted on 04/24/2011 12:43:05 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: bkopto

This might be a good time to start a rumor claiming all
illegal aliens are infested with Med-flies and Screw-worms.
Might work...


34 posted on 04/24/2011 1:13:36 PM PDT by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Scutter
Is it concern that the produce will have some pest on it that will impact California crops?

In a word, yes.

Regards,
GtG

35 posted on 04/24/2011 5:27:49 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: bkopto

The drone chief “inspector” has the IQ of a broccoli.

Nothing exceptional here; this could easily describe the vast majority of federal employees.


36 posted on 04/24/2011 6:31:58 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: bkopto

My guess is that the RV jerks are Ron Paulistas.


37 posted on 05/01/2011 6:43:59 AM PDT by Aikonaa
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