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Racism in The Left - Civil War to the present
Radio Station - Dirk Thompson : WTVN 610 AM ^ | 4/24/2011 | Dirk Thompson

Posted on 04/24/2011 5:45:23 PM PDT by tang-soo

Dirk Thompson of 610 Am in Columbus, Ohio posted the following links today as just some of the evidence supporting the racist agenda of The Left.

KKK Democrats

Janeane Garofalo - Racial Attack Against Michael Steele

KKK Democrats Lynching Killing Black & White 'Radical Republicans'

Libtalk Host And Wife Use Racism To Attack Governor Bobby Jindal

Biden the Racist - Old democrat

Tea Party Racism Rev Perryman Says Enough

White Corporate Liberal racist elite Barbara Boxer EXPOSED


Progressive Ralliers Call for Lynching of Clarence Thomas

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackcaucus; blackpanthers; boxer; ericholder; hispaniccaucus; laraza; left; racism; teaparty

1 posted on 04/24/2011 5:45:29 PM PDT by tang-soo
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To: tang-soo

Obama' administrations refusal to investigate voter intimidation because to do so would demonize his people.

2 posted on 04/24/2011 5:55:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: NoLibZone


La Raza

3 posted on 04/24/2011 5:56:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: tang-soo


Congressional Black Caucus.

4 posted on 04/24/2011 5:57:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: tang-soo


Congressional Hispanic Caucus

5 posted on 04/24/2011 5:58:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: tang-soo



6 posted on 04/24/2011 5:59:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: tang-soo

DUmocrats are just being who they’ve ALWAYS been...and continue to live up to their “legacy”:

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 specifically to oppose the Democrats, and for more than 150 years, they have done everything they could to block the Democrat agenda. In their abuses of power, they have even used threats and military violence to thwart the Democrat Party’s attempts to make this a progressive country. As you read the following Republican atrocities that span three centuries, imagine if you will, what a far different nation the United States would be had not the Republicans been around to block the Democrats’ efforts.

March 20, 1854 Opponents of Democrats’ pro-slavery policies meet in Ripon, Wisconsin to establish the Republican Party

May 30, 1854 Democrat President Franklin Pierce signs Democrats’ Kansas-Nebraska Act, expanding slavery into U.S. territories; opponents unite to form the Republican Party

June 16, 1854 Newspaper editor Horace Greeley calls on opponents of slavery to unite in the Republican Party

July 6, 1854 First state Republican Party officially organized in Jackson, Michigan, to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

February 11, 1856 Republican Montgomery Blair argues before U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of his client, the slave Dred Scott; later served in President Lincoln’s Cabinet

February 22, 1856 First national meeting of the Republican Party, in Pittsburgh, to coordinate opposition to Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

March 27, 1856 First meeting of Republican National Committee in Washington, DC to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

May 22, 1856 For denouncing Democrats’ pro-slavery policy, Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) is beaten nearly to death on floor of Senate by U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks (D-SC), takes three years to recover

March 6, 1857 Republican Supreme Court Justice John McLean issues strenuous dissent from decision by 7 Democrats in infamous Dred Scott case that African-Americans had no rights “which any white man was bound to respect”

June 26, 1857 Abraham Lincoln declares Republican position that slavery is “cruelly wrong,” while Democrats “cultivate and excite hatred” for blacks

October 13, 1858 During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee

October 25, 1858 U.S. Senator William Seward (R-NY) describes Democratic Party as “inextricably committed to the designs of the slaveholders”; as President Abraham Lincoln’s Secretary of State, helped draft Emancipation Proclamation

June 4, 1860 Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) delivers his classic address, The Barbarism of Slavery

April 7, 1862 President Lincoln concludes treaty with Britain for suppression of slave trade

April 16, 1862 President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no

July 2, 1862 U.S. Rep. Justin Morrill (R-VT) wins passage of Land Grant Act, establishing colleges open to African-Americans, including such students as George Washington Carver

July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”

August 19, 1862 Republican newspaper editor Horace Greeley writes Prayer of Twenty Millions, calling on President Lincoln to declare emancipation

August 25, 1862 President Abraham Lincoln authorizes enlistment of African-American soldiers in U.S. Army

September 22, 1862 Republican President Abraham Lincoln issues Emancipation Proclamation

January 1, 1863 Emancipation Proclamation, implementing the Republicans’ Confiscation Act of 1862, takes effect

February 9, 1864 Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton deliver over 100,000 signatures to U.S. Senate supporting Republicans’ plans for constitutional amendment to ban slavery

June 15, 1864 Republican Congress votes equal pay for African-American troops serving in U.S. Army during Civil War

June 28, 1864 Republican majority in Congress repeals Fugitive Slave Acts

October 29, 1864 African-American abolitionist Sojourner Truth says of President Lincoln: “I never was treated by anyone with more kindness and cordiality than were shown to me by that great and good man”

January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition

March 3, 1865 Republican Congress establishes Freedmen’s Bureau to provide health care, education, and technical assistance to emancipated slaves

April 8, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition

June 19, 1865 On “Juneteenth,” U.S. troops land in Galveston, TX to enforce ban on slavery that had been declared more than two years before by the Emancipation Proclamation

November 22, 1865 Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination

December 6, 1865 Republican Party’s 13th Amendment, banning slavery, is ratified

February 5, 1866 U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

April 9, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law

April 19, 1866 Thousands assemble in Washington, DC to celebrate Republican Party’s abolition of slavery

May 10, 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no

June 8, 1866 U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

July 16, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of Freedman’s Bureau Act, which protected former slaves from “black codes” denying their rights

July 28, 1866 Republican Congress authorizes formation of the Buffalo Soldiers, two regiments of African-American cavalrymen

July 30, 1866 Democrat-controlled City of New Orleans orders police to storm racially-integrated Republican meeting; raid kills 40 and wounds more than 150

January 8, 1867 Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans

March 30, 1868 Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”

May 20, 1868 Republican National Convention marks debut of African-American politicians on national stage; two – Pinckney Pinchback and James Harris – attend as delegates, and several serve as presidential electors

September 3, 1868 25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress

September 12, 1868 Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

September 28, 1868 Democrats in Opelousas, Louisiana murder nearly 300 African-Americans who tried to prevent an assault against a Republican newspaper editor

October 7, 1868 Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”

October 22, 1868 While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan

November 3, 1868 Republican Ulysses Grant defeats Democrat Horatio Seymour in presidential election; Seymour had denounced Emancipation Proclamation

December 10, 1869 Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office

February 3, 1870 After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race

May 19, 1870 African-American John Langston, law professor and future Republican Congressman from Virginia, delivers influential speech supporting President Ulysses Grant’s civil rights policies

May 31, 1870 President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights

June 22, 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South

September 6, 1870 Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell

February 28, 1871 Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters

March 22, 1871 Spartansburg Republican newspaper denounces Ku Klux Klan campaign to eradicate the Republican Party in South Carolina

April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

October 10, 1871 Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands

October 18, 1871 After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan

November 18, 1872 Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”

January 17, 1874 Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government

September 14, 1874 Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed

March 1, 1875 Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

September 20, 1876 Former state Attorney General Robert Ingersoll (R-IL) tells veterans: “Every man that loved slavery better than liberty was a Democrat… I am a Republican because it is the only free party that ever existed”

January 10, 1878 U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919

July 14, 1884 Republicans criticize Democratic Party’s nomination of racist U.S. Senator Thomas Hendricks (D-IN) for vice president; he had voted against the 13th Amendment banning slavery

August 30, 1890 Republican President Benjamin Harrison signs legislation by U.S. Senator Justin Morrill (R-VT) making African-Americans eligible for land-grant colleges in the South

June 7, 1892 In a FIRST for a major U.S. political party, two women – Theresa Jenkins and Cora Carleton – attend Republican National Convention in an official capacity, as alternate delegates

February 8, 1894 Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

December 11, 1895 African-American Republican and former U.S. Rep. Thomas Miller (R-SC) denounces new state constitution written to disenfranchise African-Americans

May 18, 1896 Republican Justice John Marshall Harlan, dissenting from Supreme Court’s notorious Plessy v. Ferguson “separate but equal” decision, declares: “Our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens”

December 31, 1898 Republican Theodore Roosevelt becomes Governor of New York; in 1900, he outlawed racial segregation in New York public schools

May 24, 1900 Republicans vote no in referendum for constitutional convention in Virginia, designed to create a new state constitution disenfranchising African-Americans

January 15, 1901 Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans

October 16, 1901 President Theodore Roosevelt invites Booker T. Washington to dine at White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country

May 29, 1902 Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%

February 12, 1909 On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP

June 18, 1912 African-American Robert Church, founder of Lincoln Leagues to register black voters in Tennessee, attends 1912 Republican National Convention as delegate; eventually serves as delegate at 8 conventions

August 1, 1916 Republican presidential candidate Charles Evans Hughes, former New York Governor and U.S. Supreme Court Justice, endorses women’s suffrage constitutional amendment; he would become Secretary of State and Chief Justice

May 21, 1919 Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no

April 18, 1920 Minnesota’s FIRST-in-the-nation anti-lynching law, promoted by African-American Republican Nellie Francis, signed by Republican Gov. Jacob Preus

August 18, 1920 Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures

January 26, 1922 House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster

June 2, 1924 Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans

October 3, 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention

December 8, 1924 Democratic presidential candidate John W. Davis argues in favor of “separate but equal”

June 12, 1929 First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country

August 17, 1937 Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation

June 24, 1940 Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it

October 20, 1942 60 prominent African-Americans issue Durham Manifesto, calling on southern Democrats to abolish their all-white primaries

April 3, 1944 U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Texas Democratic Party’s “whites only” primary election system

August 8, 1945 Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “[t]he use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”

February 18, 1946 Appointed by Republican President Calvin Coolidge, federal judge Paul McCormick ends segregation of Mexican-American children in California public schools

July 11, 1952 Republican Party platform condemns “duplicity and insincerity” of Democrats in racial matters

September 30, 1953 Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education

December 8, 1953 Eisenhower administration Asst. Attorney General Lee Rankin argues for plaintiffs in Brown v. Board of Education

May 17, 1954 Chief Justice Earl Warren, three-term Republican Governor (CA) and Republican vice presidential nominee in 1948, wins unanimous support of Supreme Court for school desegregation in Brown v. Board of Education

November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel

March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation

June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law

October 19, 1956 On campaign trail, Vice President Richard Nixon vows: “American boys and girls shall sit, side by side, at any school – public or private – with no regard paid to the color of their skin. Segregation, discrimination, and prejudice have no place in America”

November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President

September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools

June 23, 1958 President Dwight Eisenhower meets with Martin Luther King and other African-American leaders to discuss plans to advance civil rights

February 4, 1959 President Eisenhower informs Republican leaders of his plan to introduce 1960 Civil Rights Act, despite staunch opposition from many Democrats

May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats

July 27, 1960 At Republican National Convention, Vice President and eventual presidential nominee Richard Nixon insists on strong civil rights plank in platform

May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights

June 1, 1963 Democrat Governor George Wallace announces defiance of court order issued by Republican federal judge Frank Johnson to integrate University of Alabama

September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School

June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

June 10, 1964 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirkson, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

June 20, 1964 The Chicago Defender, renowned African-American newspaper, praises Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) for leading passage of 1964 Civil Rights Act

March 7, 1965 Police under the command of Democrat Governor George Wallace attack African-Americans demonstrating for voting rights in Selma, AL

March 21, 1965 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson authorizes Martin Luther King’s protest march from Selma to Montgomery, overruling Democrat Governor George Wallace

August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose

August 6, 1965 Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

July 8, 1970 In special message to Congress, President Richard Nixon calls for reversal of policy of forced termination of Native American rights and benefits

September 17, 1971 Former Ku Klux Klan member and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black (D-AL) retires from U.S. Supreme Court; appointed by FDR in 1937, he had defended Klansmen for racial murders

February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law

April 26, 1999 Legislation authored by U.S. Senator Spencer Abraham (R-MI) awarding Congressional Gold Medal to civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks is transmitted to President

January 25, 2001 U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee declares school choice to be “Educational Emancipation”

March 19, 2003 Republican U.S. Representatives of Hispanic and Portuguese descent form Congressional Hispanic Conference

May 23, 2003 U.S. Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) introduces bill to establish National Museum of African American History and Culture

February 26, 2004 Hispanic Republican U.S. Rep. Henry Bonilla (R-TX) condemns racist comments by U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL); she had called Asst. Secretary of State Roger Noriega and several Hispanic Congressmen “a bunch of white all look alike to me”.

7 posted on 04/24/2011 6:07:14 PM PDT by RasterMaster (We the tax-payer subsidize DUh-bama's failures)
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To: tang-soo

Dirk is the man. The brightest star at WTVN, since Corby and Bradley have been neutered by the drive time PC advertising police.

8 posted on 04/24/2011 6:30:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: tang-soo

How about a good link that directly relates to the thread title instead of a bunch of links to other places.

9 posted on 04/24/2011 6:44:29 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: tang-soo
You bet the left is racist. I don't know any conservative racist but I do know plenty of liberal racist.
10 posted on 04/24/2011 6:48:24 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: tang-soo

Calling the KKK “the Left” is a major stretch.

They were just the continuation of the prewar southern ideology, and most certainly thought of themselves as conservatives, which in a sense they were.

I would consider them severely misguided conservatives, with a total lack of understanding of what true American conservatism means, but that doesn’t make them leftists.

11 posted on 04/24/2011 6:52:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Calling the left the KKK is not a stretch at all. The Confederate democrats were not conservatives but more close to what today we call libertarians with a large mix of socialists as well. It was the left-wing democrat party and Southern pro-Confederate, Woodrow Wilson and the left-wing Progressive movement that championed the KKK.

12 posted on 04/24/2011 7:57:57 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: tang-soo

Here is another article about the history of the democrat party from the Confederate democrats who defended slavery and attacked the United States in a war of treason , to the Progressive democrats and their continual war against our Constitution and the rights it provides for ALL.

“Why Democrats Avoid Confederate History While Republicans Embrace It”


It promotes a video on this topic -

13 posted on 04/24/2011 8:15:34 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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Trying to force political groupings of one era into those of another is useless, which was sort of my point.

Among other rather relevant points, “the left” has generally been internationalist, certainly the Marxist segment of the left.

The KKK was and is aggressively nationalist.

I looked up the political program of (one of) the present KKK organizations. 28 points, and I probably agree with 18 or 20 of them. But I loathe and despise what they really stand for.

I’d post a link, but I don’t think we’re supposed to link to such filth.

14 posted on 04/24/2011 8:48:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The left have always been both nationalist and internationalist, Hitler was left-wing. There is no denying that the Progressive movement is left-wing and there is no denying that the progressive movement championed the KKK. The progressive movement itself projected both nationalist and internationalist policy and they championed the KKK, so your point does not stand.

The Confederate democrats and the KKK used liberarian or conservative principles if it suited their current agenda but they were never conservative or right-wing at all.

15 posted on 04/24/2011 9:03:00 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: RasterMaster


Thank you so very much!

16 posted on 04/25/2011 2:04:38 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Robert Green Ingersoll - Indianapolis Speech (1876)

"Every man that loved slavery better than liberty was a Democrat."

17 posted on 04/25/2011 7:26:30 AM PDT by RasterMaster (We the tax-payer subsidize DUh-bama's failures)
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To: Sherman Logan

They were very much the paramilitary arm of the Democrat party for many decades.

18 posted on 04/25/2011 7:28:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Sherman Logan

>Among other rather relevant points, “the left” has generally been internationalist, certainly the Marxist segment of the left.

You’ve bought the Big Lie of the international Left in the wake of WWII. It is nothing to be ashamed of, many did, have, and do. They have a very effective propaganda wing in the legacy media and the universities.

The fact remains that Fascism and Nazism were both Leftist movements with socialist roots. Certainly the Nazis and Fascists weren’t international. And even among the avowed “international” Left, there has been plenty of nationalist elements behind the facade of internationalism.

There is a great quote by Hayek, the third on me FR profile page, that illustrates the ideological similarities of Communism/Marxism and Nazism.

A good extended essay on the point:

19 posted on 04/25/2011 7:39:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Not this again, it is very tired.

Fascism and Nazism were explicitly a third way, rejecting both (internationalist) socialism and capitalism. They picked up useful ideas from all quarters.

Certainly socialism was one of those sources, but to call them “socialist” without all sorts of qualifiers is just inaccurate.

If you insist on doing so, you must first define socialism in such a way as to include all socialist groups and exclude all non-socialist groups. So what’s your definition? Mere labeling is not enough, or East Germany would have been both democratic and republican.

Fascism and Nazism also incorporated elements from capitalism. Does that mean they were “really” the extreme right wing of capitalism, as the Left claims, or merely that they were opportunists?

I sometimes think Orwell’s definition of fascism as “something not desirable” has morphed on FR into a definition for socialism.

I know my definition of socialism. I’ll be interested to see yours.

20 posted on 04/25/2011 7:51:34 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TheBigIf

Okay. The problem here is that we’re discussing three totally different organizations that just happened to use the same name in different periods.

The post Civil War KKK.

The 1920s KKK.

The 1950s/60s KKK.

The first was by definition reactionary, not progressive. Its goal was to return blacks to semi-servitude, keep them in their place. While the organization itself was pretty well crushed by 1872 or so, their goals were reached with the ascendancy of Jim Crow, through the efforts of other groups with the same ideology.

The 20s KKK had zero continuity with its predecessor and was indeed Progressive, or rather many of its members were and thought it was. The organization itself was pretty much a money-making scam for the organizers, and as such did not really have much of an ideology. It collapsed very quickly once the criminal nature of the organizers became apparent.

The 50s/60s KKK was again a reactionary movement, trying to keep change from occurring. Its members would have utterly rejected any notion they were Progressive, and those who considered themselves Progressives at the time were utterly opposed to the KKK.

21 posted on 04/25/2011 8:00:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

It is not a problem that we are having but simply a problem of you having an agenda to deny the facts and cling to any nuance you can find in order to defend the democrat party. There was plenty of continuity from the Confederate democrats (KKK) and their successors the Progressive democrat (KKK). Woodrow Wilson won the Confederate southern states in a landslide. There was celebration among Confederates in the South. The Confederates had their own populist and socialist style movements as well with some that eventually merged with the democrat party and fully endorsed the progressive movement.

Your fixation about splitting things between internationalist and nationalist is also a delusion of yours. The Soviet Union certainly never sought international support when militarily taking over other nations thus not much different at all then the Nazis. You are simply tied up in certain philosophical propaganda without looking at what these systems have actually represented throughout history. There also was no true capitalism in Nazi Germany as you claim, all was state controlled and just the appearance of capitalism was there.

22 posted on 04/25/2011 8:31:13 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
Woodrow Wilson won the Confederate southern states in a landslide.

He was a Democrat. The Democrats won the Confederate southern states in a landslide every election. That's why they called it the Solid South.

The Democrats were not the Progressives of their day, although they certainly had Progressive elements.

The Progressives had been far more numerous in the GOP, especially under TR. In fact, Woodrow Wilson won his election only because TR came roaring back with the closest anybody has ever come to pulling off a true third-party run for president. He ran as the head of the Progressive Party. Sound familiar?

There is no doubt at all he pulled more votes from Taft than from Wilson. The Progressives of the time, IOW, were found in both parties, but were more numerous in the GOP.

When the Progressive Party wore out, its members almost all rejoined the Republicans, not the Democrats.

But there is no point in attempting to have a discussion with someone with no interest in actual facts. Y'all have a nice day.

23 posted on 04/25/2011 9:32:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Again you cling to nuance. We still have progressive republicans today as well but it is the democrat party that has championed the progressive movement and Woodrow Wilson is considered the grand-father of this democrat party movement. Wilson won the south by a landslide due to his support from other populist socialist type movements in the Confederate south and he continued to also champion the Confederate KKK. The KKK is a left-wing democrat party terrorist group.

It is you who have no interest in facts but instead you are just trying to muddy the waters with any little nuance of an argument that you can find and cling to.

24 posted on 04/25/2011 9:44:27 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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Democrats won by large margins in the South in every presidential election from 1876 to 1948 except for 1928, when Al Smith, a Catholic and a New Yorker, ran on the Democratic ticket; even in that election, the divided South provided Smith with nearly three-fourths of his electoral votes.

Please point out how Wilson’s showing in the South was some sort of anomaly specifically related to his status as a Progressive rather than as a Democrat.

BTW, I have no doubt the South was enthusiastic in its support for Wilson, who was kinda sorta a southerner, and whose election was almost as much a victory for southerners as Obama’s was for blacks. But this reason for his support was tribal in nature, not ideological.

25 posted on 04/25/2011 10:04:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Read some biography work on Wilson. Sure the split in the republican vote helped him win but he won the south in large part due to the endorsement of the People’s populist party which shortly after merged with the democrat party. This was a left-wing movement (very similar to progressivism and similar to the rhetoric of democrats today still) that was very popular in the south (it started with the Confederate’s Farmers Alliance). – Wilson at the time of his candidacy was at times considered a northerner though he regularly spoke at meeting of Confederate groups located in the north and was able to get the support of these left-wing Confederate political movements.

26 posted on 04/25/2011 10:21:13 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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