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Syrian deaths soar as tanks, snipers, commandos mow down civilians
Debkafile ^ | 4/25/11

Posted on 04/25/2011 9:39:19 AM PDT by Dave346

Bashar Assad has launched all-out war on his people. Tanks firing artillery, APCs, infantry units, commandoes and snipers were deployed for the first time at daybreak Monday, April 25 in cities across Syria for the most brutal assault on any Arab anti-government protest in the four-month uprising. In the first few hours, hundreds are estimated to have been massacred (over and above the 350 shot dead in the last three days) and thousands injured. Denied medical attention, they are left in the streets to die. The military offensive to break the back of the uprising is led by his younger brother Maher Assad at the head of the Republican Guard and the 4th Division which is made up mostly of the Assad's Alawite clan.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: basharassad; bhomiddleeast; goodshow; islam; rage; syria; win
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Stay tuned, looks like the Assad regime is playing its final cards in bid for survival...
1 posted on 04/25/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Well, Assad better send Bam a nice campaign donation if he knows whats good for him...


2 posted on 04/25/2011 9:41:23 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Dave346
Have they killed more than obummer and Hillary have in Libya, I’m sure obummer and Hillary are working on a catch up killing spree.
3 posted on 04/25/2011 9:42:18 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Dave346

Where’s big bad Obama......yep nit-pickin’ on poor old Gadafi.


4 posted on 04/25/2011 9:43:20 AM PDT by kenmcg (pROBLEM)
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To: Dave346

Golly gee Wally, It sounds like Syria is doing the same thing that Gadahffi guy over in Libya is accused of doing...


5 posted on 04/25/2011 9:43:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Dave346

Any better source?
Debka’s been on my B.S. list for several years now.


6 posted on 04/25/2011 9:46:11 AM PDT by toast
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To: org.whodat

Oh, but Hillary has stated that “Assad is a reformer” and we are told that he “protects Christians in Syria”. He is a puppet of Iran and let’s not forget it! He is cruel and brutal. Nothing to see, folks - let’s move on.


7 posted on 04/25/2011 9:46:20 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Dave346
When does that start in the United States?..
Answer: After the 2012 elections.. if the TpCaucus don't make a clean sweep..
8 posted on 04/25/2011 9:47:46 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: org.whodat

If it weren’t for my deep abiding hatred for all things Assad I’d say who gives a crap....


9 posted on 04/25/2011 9:49:21 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Dave346
For Assad..., deploying the entire army is a wild gamble because more than 75 percent of Syria's 220,000-strong rank and file are Sunni Muslims, Kurds and Druzes.... ..... and therefore drawn from ethnic and religious groups long repressed by the Alawite-dominated regime. Uniformed troops might well flout orders to shoot live rounds into crowds of protesters who are members of their community or even family. It would start the break-up of the Syrian army amid large-scale defections of officers and men.

Looks like this is as tribal as others....everyone jumps into the bandwagon and sides are chosen.

10 posted on 04/25/2011 9:52:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: hosepipe
When does that start in the United States?.. Answer: After the 2012 elections.. if the TpCaucus don't make a clean sweep..

Do you think Obama would open fire on our people as these nations have done?

11 posted on 04/25/2011 9:55:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: Lurker
That is the problem, all the assets getting thrown away and the insanity of killing people that harmed no one in Libya, when this country and Iran should be getting attacked. But Iran's oil is not sweet light crude close to France.
12 posted on 04/25/2011 9:57:58 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Dave346
"Tanks firing artillery"

Noting the depth of stupidity in reporting. Tanks have rounds, munitions, warheads, etc. But they do not fire "atillery". Artillery fires artillery rounds.

13 posted on 04/25/2011 9:59:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Dave346
Not the first time the Syrian regime got a bit heavy handed: Hama Massacre.
14 posted on 04/25/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The Correct spelling is: commandos

Common misspellings of the word commandos are:

comandos
commandoes

Did Dan Quayle join the headline writing staff?


15 posted on 04/25/2011 10:02:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Michael Barnes
“Well, Assad better send Bam a nice campaign donation if he knows whats good for him...”

He likely thinks the amounts he gave during the last election will be enough.

16 posted on 04/25/2011 10:03:19 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: caww

“Do you think Obama would open fire on our people as these nations have done? “

I believe it depends on which ‘our people’ are protesting.

If it’s Holder’s people, then no way does the Obama government open fire.

If it’s the Tea Party, the all bets are off.


17 posted on 04/25/2011 10:03:19 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Dave346

.....and Hillary said Assad was a reformer. Yep, according to Hillary Assad is a good guy.


18 posted on 04/25/2011 10:06:28 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

He probably still is better than the alternative.


19 posted on 04/25/2011 10:07:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Uncle Miltie
Guy tried to convince me that a mortar round was a cluster bomb.
20 posted on 04/25/2011 10:08:22 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: dfwgator

Let’s tally Assad’s disadvantages:

1) Ally of Iran
2) Technically at war with Israel
3) Massive support to Hezbollah
4) Lesser support to Hamas
5) Owns / destabilizes Lebanon
6) Kills people on a massive scale in Lebanon
7) Harbors many terrorist organizations
8) Helps Al Qaeda fighters infiltrate Iraq to kill Americans
9) Kills its own people massively, Hama then, and everywhere now
10) Stiffs every American Secretary of State who comes a callin’

So tell me again, who would come to power in Syria that would be worse?


21 posted on 04/25/2011 10:11:40 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Dave346

If its only muslims killing muslims, I can’t get too worked up over this. The brotherhood would no doubt be worse than Assad.


22 posted on 04/25/2011 10:13:00 AM PDT by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing working out for you?)
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To: Dave346

islamists killing islamists. Have at it!


23 posted on 04/25/2011 10:13:02 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

That’s more than concerning to imagine happening. No wonder people are hunkering down...there isn’t an area of our lifes that will go untouched.

Where I work you can see the shock on peoples faces when they make a purchase which has esculated in cost beyond what they were prepared for. They walk away stunned and angry.

I think the reality of how all this is affecting peoples pocketbooks is just beginning to be felt...though warnings of price increases abound in our news...people are just not prepared when that reality hits them in the face.


24 posted on 04/25/2011 10:15:47 AM PDT by caww
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To: Dave346
Just like daddy. What a chip of the ol’ block.
25 posted on 04/25/2011 10:16:22 AM PDT by mojito
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To: caww

He’ll accuse us of child abuse first. Works every time.


26 posted on 04/25/2011 10:17:03 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Dave346

Imagine if Israelis treated Arabs the way their own governments do?

Where are human shields to protect the Syrian protesters?

Where are the loft denunciations from the EU, the World Court?

Where are the academic boycotts?

Don’t tell me they aren’t antisemites.


27 posted on 04/25/2011 10:21:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: caww

Boy, is that easy to answer: While Obamuzzie may very well harbor delusions of GRANDEUR commanding a group of our own military teaching those rich people a lesson it ain’t gonna happen. Our population is not the disarmed, miserable, un-motivated, hapless, inbred, barely literate bunch that inhabit the Arab 22. I know where my friends and I have somewhere north of 300 million firearms that would be used virtually instantly to keep Obamuzzie and his storm troopers in their tents. And remember this. Old dogs bite hard. There are far more ex-GI’s than there are active. The old guys know how stuff works. And every young GI knows better than to pick a fight with an old man. We fight quick, dirty, and for keeps.


28 posted on 04/25/2011 10:28:35 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Michael Barnes

Will Assad live his life out in wealth and comfort in CA or FL?


29 posted on 04/25/2011 10:30:20 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: org.whodat

If you’re on the receiving end, who gives a $hit about technicalities?


30 posted on 04/25/2011 10:35:47 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: caww
"Do you think Obama would open fire on our people as these nations have done?"

Two big differences, most of our troops wouldn't pull the trigger and most citizens have the ability to fire back.
31 posted on 04/25/2011 10:36:04 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: org.whodat
"Guy tried to convince me that a mortar round was a cluster bomb."

I'm guessing this same clown has never dropped a mortar down the tube. I've seen HE, Smoke, Wiley Pete, never saw the cluster bomb mortar round. I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess this same person when seeing all of the fully auto firearms, RPGs and grenades that were confiscated from the Mexican drug cartels thought they were bought at American gun stores.
32 posted on 04/25/2011 10:42:31 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: PapaBear3625

Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood is using these protests to again attempt to seek control. They’ve been apparently trying to organize since about 2000 after being defeated in Hama.

IMO the uprisings are being used by any side who desires to take down Assad... and more than likely the Muslim Brotherhood very active and involved. Thus Syria will be brutal in keeping them out of power...even if it means thousands of civilians may die in the cross fire.


33 posted on 04/25/2011 10:47:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: Le Chien Rouge

And he will have the full support of the mainstream propaganda ministry as he protects his people from the untermensch that cling to religion and guns.


34 posted on 04/25/2011 10:52:34 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: Dave346

Just as in Libya and other areas of unrest the Muslim Brotherhood is active and involved in Syrias uprising. I have no doubt of this. There is an Iranian push throughout the ME. to upend the leadership and using the protestors of these nations to that desired end.. How successful this will be remains to be seen but there is no doubt more than the protestors are fueling this fire storm thru the Middle East.


35 posted on 04/25/2011 10:59:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I certainly hope you’re right! But if it went so far as the public firing then what? I don’t underestimate the Democrates heavy-handedness or the tactics they would use.


36 posted on 04/25/2011 11:04:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"But if it went so far as the public firing then what?"

JMO, but I think we're a long ways away from having government forces firing on our citizens. I know some on freerepublic may disagree with me, but we're not even close to a Syria situation or a Libya situation. Something seismic or dramatic would have to happen like Obama setting himself up as President for Life....
37 posted on 04/25/2011 11:19:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: caww
"I have no doubt of this. There is an Iranian push throughout the ME. to upend the leadership and using the protestors of these nations to that desired end."

It's hard to connect Iran to any uprising against the Syrian government since they are staunch allies. I understand that Assad and his government are Sunnis and the Mullah's in Iran are Shiite. However, the fact remains that they are staunch allies and share intel, training and a host of other things.
38 posted on 04/25/2011 11:23:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Well that’s comforting...and i suspect it is far from happening as well...still I don’t underestimate the extent Bo will go to have his way.

It was said to me...”The only reason no other nation has invaded the US is because they all know we are individually armed.” I find some degree of comfort in that statement...but then when one thinks of Bo and the game he plays...I am not so secure in my thinking.


39 posted on 04/25/2011 11:25:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: Uncle Miltie

Dan Quayle was given a card with the “correct” spelling of the word potato. The error was on the card. It could have been coincidence, it could have been a setup. How many people are so certain of the spelling of the word potato that they would disbelieve a card that they are told with certainty is the correct spelling of the word potatoe?

Are you going to spellcheck the cards in advance to make sure nobody is handing you an incorrect spelling? It would have been a good idea, because he might have been our next president at that time, rather than Bill Clinton. But I’m sure he trusted the people who were handling him at the time.

Maybe we can go through all of your previous posts and find one misspelling, then start a thread about how you misspelled such an easy word.

In the same position, I can’t say I would have noticed the spelling error on the card, and I pride myself on my extensive vocabulary, superior linguistic capability, and impeccable spelling. So cut Mr. Quayle some slack. Don’t help the leftist media to defame our people.


40 posted on 04/25/2011 11:28:04 AM PDT by webheart (Just saying.....)
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To: Dave346

Wow, someone we OUGHT kill is slaughtering his people, and the silence from White House and Europe is deafening...

Well, I’m glad we’re not getting involved, anyway. Now,, if we’d just ditch involvement in Libya...


41 posted on 04/25/2011 11:29:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Even with the Muslim Brotherhood threat they have fought off for years now in Syria? I realize Iran and Syria have worked hand in glove, even so when it comes to the Islamic push across the ME they will fight one another to establish this if Iran believes theres a chance of uniting all the ME under Islamic Rule...which is what they are pushing for now.


42 posted on 04/25/2011 11:31:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"It was said to me...”The only reason no other nation has invaded the US is because they all know we are individually armed.”

You may be referring to Yammamoto's quote when asked about invading America. He said he wouldn't do it because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. It's never been substantiated that he said that. Even if he didn't, it's truthful and it's also a pretty good line.
43 posted on 04/25/2011 11:32:20 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: caww
"Even with the Muslim Brotherhood threat they have fought off for years now in Syria?"

I don't know how credible the Muslim Brotherhood overthrowing the Syrian government stories are. They seem to be the boogeyman behind all of these ME government topplings. It's true, they are a serious threat to take over in Egypt. Beyond that, I'm suspicious of their influence in the other countries. Let's also keep in mind that the Muslim Brotherhood are also Sunni like Assaad and not Shiite like the Mullahs in Iran. I've never read stories where Iran and the Muslim Brotherhod have worked together before.
44 posted on 04/25/2011 11:37:26 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Speaking of Yammamoto...”Toro-Toro-Toro”..and “Pearl harbor” are in my movie Library...as well as various other war films. Though I’m a gal I raised men so your selections for movies and TV was very limited at best... I grew to love war pictures and action films...especially when based on true happenings.

Yammamoto was not a foolish man. But as was also said Japans actions woke up a sleeping giant. I sometimes think our government is still asleep at the wheel in the dangers our country faces. It’s not business as usual.


45 posted on 04/25/2011 11:40:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

It’s been said the Muslim Brotherhood layed low and became “moderate” in their thinking concerning radical Islam....but in fact simply have waited until the opportunity rises to move forward with their agenda to set in place Islamic rule. So there’s differences today of who and what they really are. Either or they are not good news as far as I can see. Not that Assad is any better but at least he’s established an International Presence where other nations have been able to negotiate somewhat with him.

I do understand though, that Syrians can be very brutal in warfare and not to be taken lightly.


46 posted on 04/25/2011 11:47:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: Dave346

If Syria occupied Lebanon for a decade or more, I don’t think the regime will have much trouble controlling the population of Syria. Assad was his Dad’s successor, and he evidently has no trouble with slaughtering his people in order to keep them under his thumb, especially if he can count on Iran’s help.


47 posted on 04/25/2011 12:06:23 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: caww

Assaad has created untold amounts of trouble in the region. He supports terrorist activities, he supports Hezbollah financially, with weapons and many other ways. They in turn have ruined Lebanon and are constantly attacking Israel. He controls Lebanon almost as his personal puppet. Working with Iran, he has helped in the killing of our soldiers in Iraq. I personally believe the reports that WMDs were shipped from Iraq to Syria before the war.

Whatever could come to power after toppling Assad can never be any worse than him and could certainly be better.


48 posted on 04/25/2011 12:06:44 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: juliej

Hard to say whether Hillary hates us and loves our enemies, but it should be obvious to everyone by now that she’s a Carter-variety idiot and she’s in over her head.


49 posted on 04/25/2011 12:08:17 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Dave346

Hmmmm. Why is there an international uproar over Libya and not one over Syria? What makes these two countries so different?

Could it be oil.


50 posted on 04/25/2011 1:06:36 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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