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POLL GIVES PEROT A CLEAR LEAD
New York Times ^ | June 11, 1992 | New York Times

Posted on 04/25/2011 10:50:39 AM PDT by Will88

"In the telephone poll of 815 registered voters nationwide, conducted June 4 to 8, Mr. Perot was supported by 39 percent, Mr. Bush by 31 percent, and Mr. Clinton by 25 percent. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1992; perot; trump1point0
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Perot's independent run for president in 1992 often appears in comments here at FR, and often that third party candidacy is treated as a joke. But it was no joke as this Gallop poll from June of 1992 shows:

Perot 39% GHWB 31% Clinton 25%

This statement from Wiki:

"In June, Perot led the national public opinion polls with support from 39% of the voters (versus 31% for Bush and 25% for Clinton).[4] Perot severely damaged his credibility by dropping out of the presidential contest in July and remaining out of the race for several weeks before re-entering. He compounded this damage by eventually claiming, without evidence, that his withdrawal was due to Republican operatives attempting to disrupt his daughter's wedding.[5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

Perot led in the polls for weeks until he dropped out. Had he been temperamentally suited for the pressures of the campaign, and had he followed through with a tough campaign and a good VP pick, he likely would have won. The right candidate could have won as an independent by successfully raising issues and gaining support as Perot did.

And Perot was raising basically the same issues as the Tea Party and Donald Trump.

For those who don't know this history, or have forgotten, maybe it's worth a post to recall that Perot was winning by a good margin until he bombed out, and only regained about half his support (19%) after reentering the race.

1 posted on 04/25/2011 10:50:48 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

That was my first election. I vote for Perot. I had read his book and really believed what he was saying. I still think he was right and, to this day, I think America would be a better country if he had won.


2 posted on 04/25/2011 10:53:42 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: Will88

“Perot 39% GHWB 31% Clinton 25%”

Yeah, but how did that translate into electoral college votes?


3 posted on 04/25/2011 10:53:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Will88

Many Freepers do not care if a Trump run puts Obama back in in 2012 as long as they can stick it to anyone who didn’t meet their pure conservative standards (which I gather is nobody in the current GOP or anywhere else that would satisfy them for that matter.)

They have GOP-DS like the libs have BDS or PDS.


4 posted on 04/25/2011 10:56:38 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RC one

My story is similar. When I saw what actually happened, and the effect of a split vote, I’ll never do it again.

If someone has a direct line to Trump, please tell him not to run. It will guarantee another 4 years under the Usurper in chief.

And if anyone has a direct line to Sarah Palin.... :D


5 posted on 04/25/2011 10:57:14 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Yeah, but how did that translate into electoral college votes?

That question was being asked when Perot led in the polls that summer. Of course, it was never answered since Perot blew his lead and won on 19%.

But your snarkiness does not change the reality that an independent held a clear lead in a presidential race until he basically sabotaged his own campaign.

6 posted on 04/25/2011 10:57:49 AM PDT by Will88
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To: RC one
That was my first election. I vote for Perot. I had read his book and really believed what he was saying. I still think he was right and, to this day, I think America would be a better country if he had won.

Judging by your tagline, you have yet to learn from your mistake. At the time you made it, you were presumably young and inexperienced, only 18. You had an excuse. This time ... you have zero excuse. You need to learn from your mistakes AND APPLY WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED.

Sounds to me, judging by your tagline, that you're headed toward making the same mistake again.

7 posted on 04/25/2011 10:58:14 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Will88

I have a couple of good liberal friends who are hoping that Trump runs.

Not so they can vote for him...

...but because they know he will divide the GOP and give Obummer a solid chance of being re-elected.


8 posted on 04/25/2011 10:58:16 AM PDT by proudpapa
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To: Will88
"POLL GIVES PEROT TRUMP A CLEAR LEAD."

Shadow of the past....spectre of the future?

9 posted on 04/25/2011 10:58:47 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Will88
I am either having a flashback or appoplecit fit.

If some one would just come shoot me...

10 posted on 04/25/2011 11:00:25 AM PDT by mmercier (rolling thunder and powering rain)
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To: Will88

Excellent post!


11 posted on 04/25/2011 11:00:56 AM PDT by Obadiah (I don't mind Obama's vacations. It's his coming back that bothers me.)
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To: RC one
I'll confess I voted for Perot also. Bush didn't seem to want the job and who knew what a scumbag Clinton would be.

That being said I would never vote for Trump. He's only in it for himself.

12 posted on 04/25/2011 11:01:38 AM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: proudpapa
I have a couple of good liberal friends who are hoping that Trump runs.

If he runs, Trump plans to enter the Republican primaries.

13 posted on 04/25/2011 11:01:50 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
He spendt 29 million taxpayer bucks for zero electoral votes.

he just mucked up the race for GHWBush.

Perot's predictions, however, have somewhat come true
- NAFTA giant suckin sound
- Lobbyists still have too much influence.
- Reduced Standard of living for our kids.

I think his message would have an an audience today. Sarah comes close...

14 posted on 04/25/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Will88

That poll must have been right before Perot quit the race claiming that the Democrat party had “reenergized” itself under Clinton. He only got back into the the race when Bush started to catch up to Clinton, with half the support he had before he quit; just enough to be sure Bush lost, which was all he really wanted, IMHO.


15 posted on 04/25/2011 11:03:23 AM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Finny

Palin is the spoiler this time. It’s the purists and the fundamentalists that will cost us this election, not Donald Trump.


16 posted on 04/25/2011 11:03:27 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: Obadiah
Excellent post!

I do think many people don't realize that Perot had a clear lead until he dropped out and blew it all. Maybe a few younger Freepers hadn't known this.

17 posted on 04/25/2011 11:04:41 AM PDT by Will88
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To: RC one
if he had won.

Perot and his ego gave us 8 years of Bill Clinton.

18 posted on 04/25/2011 11:05:29 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Will88

19 posted on 04/25/2011 11:06:42 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Will88

This seems to me to be “Exhibit A” evidence that demonstrates that to many, voting is an exercise in pure emotion. Whether it was for a great sounding Perot, or for the first Black blank slate, the process is the same.

This also demonstrates why American polling is all over the map. Basically, Americans have become very weak-minded and make their decisions based upon the latest TV commercial or who talked to them last before the election.

No core values, no direction of spirit, just raw emotional appeal, that’s what seals the deal for the American “Independent” voter.


20 posted on 04/25/2011 11:06:58 AM PDT by Obadiah (I don't mind Obama's vacations. It's his coming back that bothers me.)
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