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911 call details how toddler fatally shot mom(FL)
msnbc.msn.com ^ | 25 April, 2011 | 911 call details how toddler fatally shot mom

Posted on 04/26/2011 4:47:59 AM PDT by marktwain

A momentary lapse in attention was all it took for a toddler to grab a loaded gun and fatally shoot his mother, a 911 call of the incident revealed Monday.

According to a man identified in the call as the 2-year-old boy's father, the boy grabbed the hand gun and before the man could get it away from the inquisitive child, the toddler had pulled the trigger.

The bullet hit Julia Bennett in the back, killing the 33-year-old Miramar woman.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: accident; banglist; child; fl
Tragic and extremely rare, if true.
1 posted on 04/26/2011 4:48:02 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

No safety??


2 posted on 04/26/2011 4:54:37 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: marktwain

How do we know it was the kid who pulled the trigger?

Sad story.


3 posted on 04/26/2011 4:55:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: marktwain
Tragic and extremely rare, if true.

Exactly! But still, I don't even want to read the article.

4 posted on 04/26/2011 4:55:32 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: marktwain

Fishy.

He didn’t know the gun was loaded? He left it lying on the ground? And — with a toddler in the house?

Guns don’t kill people...stupid people who can’t figure out how to use them properly do...


5 posted on 04/26/2011 4:55:54 AM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: marktwain

I am truly sorry for all involved while at the same time I am somewhat skeptical.


6 posted on 04/26/2011 4:56:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: indylindy

They will test for powder residue.


7 posted on 04/26/2011 4:56:25 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: marktwain

It’s been a long time since I’ve fired an automatic and I don’t own one (never have, only revolvers) so pardon my ignorance in this question:

Wouldn’t the gun have to be more than just “loaded” for the toddler to be able to squeeze off a round?


8 posted on 04/26/2011 4:58:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Dusty Road

I wonder if it is possible that he could have held the kid’s hand there and pulled the trigger?

Something just seems fishy here.


9 posted on 04/26/2011 5:00:12 AM PDT by dforest
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To: samtheman

If it’s a Glock or a S&W MP,and it has a round chambered-just pull the trigger.


10 posted on 04/26/2011 5:03:44 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

The man had a concealed-carry permit but had never fired this gun and thought it wasn’t loaded?

*sniff, sniff*


11 posted on 04/26/2011 5:04:25 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: marktwain

I’m no gun expert, but why would you have a loaded gun laying around when you have a two year old child?


12 posted on 04/26/2011 5:06:56 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: HGSW0904

Things like this wouldn’t happen if there was common sense laws about who can have children.


13 posted on 04/26/2011 5:08:03 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I agree with you and the others who think something is off here. I wonder if there were marital troubles, impending divorce, etc.


14 posted on 04/26/2011 5:08:30 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Farmer Dean

How hard is it to squeeze the trigger? Does a 2 yr old have the strength?


15 posted on 04/26/2011 5:10:45 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: marktwain
"The little boy take it up off the ground. He squeeze it and he shot his mom,"

The gun was just lying around on the floor? Uh-huh.

Sounds to me like babydaddy got tired of babymommy and came up with the dumbest excuse ever. The powder residue test will tell...

16 posted on 04/26/2011 5:12:43 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: samtheman

Ditto.

My 22-year-old daughter can barely pull the trigger on my 9MM.


17 posted on 04/26/2011 5:13:03 AM PDT by LoveUSA (You don't notice the night light until it gets dark.)
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To: marktwain

I’m calling Shenanigans on this one. What a great suspect: a kid in diapers who can’t verbalize what really happened. I think a lot of detective work needs to go into this one. IMHO


18 posted on 04/26/2011 5:14:52 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: nuconvert

I don’t know how many pounds pressure it takes,but my MP has a fairly light trigger.The Glocks-I just don’t know,never owned or shot one.


19 posted on 04/26/2011 5:16:04 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: proud American in Canada

He had a loaded 9mm on the ground? A two year-old could grab the handle, aim it up, and squeeze the trigger?

It’s MSNBC.

Wouldn’t somebody lazy leave it on a counter or a table?


20 posted on 04/26/2011 5:16:07 AM PDT by mmparker
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To: nuconvert
This is my question--would a 2 yr old have the hand strength and size to pull that trigger.? I'm a small woman, and there are many guns that I have to shoot using both hands because I'm not very strong.

This is a tragic situation, but the explanation for what happened does not pass the smell test IMHO.

21 posted on 04/26/2011 5:20:30 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain
"The little boy take it up off the ground. He squeeze it and he shot his mom," the unidentified man told a 911 operator on April 20. "I was trying to take the gun from him. I can’t believe it."

The jury probably won't either.

22 posted on 04/26/2011 5:24:58 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: marktwain

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to breed, much less be around firearms, as demonstrated by this dad at a wedding.

Dad hands his roscoe to his two year old and Mr. Darwin steps in.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=053_1229002851


23 posted on 04/26/2011 5:30:56 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: marktwain
Yes it is very rare and truly tragic. The lib press will make a huge deal about how none of us should have guns because of this. I know two families that this happened to. One family was going hunting and the one brothers gun accidentally discharged hitting his 8 year old brother in the spine. The brother was paralyzed from the neck down and just recently died in his early 20's, complications of being paralyzed. And back in the early 70's, I knew a family where the 4 year old brother got hold of his fathers gun that was loaded and laying around(can't remember where, just remember it being carelessly left out somewhere). The boy shot through a wall and killed his sister.

I also know a load of people with guns and have for years, where nothing has happened. It's part of life. There will always be foolish people and tragic accidents.

24 posted on 04/26/2011 5:33:25 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: basil
A Glock isn't all that difficult to shoot, but then I've never considered it from the viewpoint of a 2-year-old pulling the trigger. I think it would be pretty darned difficult for a child that age to hold it correctly, point and pull the trigger, but maybe grabbing it upside-down or something. Even at that, this sounds like a "lucky" shot to have hit the woman just right.

I agree that the whole situation sounds awfully fishy. I know they are doing powder residue tests, but I hope they also look very carefully at things like angle of entry, where everyone was supposed to have been physically, and so forth.

25 posted on 04/26/2011 5:50:17 AM PDT by susannah59
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To: marktwain

Gun ought to have a lot of kick in store for a 2yo who doesn’t know he’s flicking a bang switch.


26 posted on 04/26/2011 6:29:16 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good; don't post and drive!)
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To: indylindy
I wonder if it is possible that he could have held the kid’s hand there and pulled the trigger?

He said he was trying to take it from the kid, so they will both have powder residue. Unless he is lying about the 'trying to take if from the kid'.

'Why did I put myself in this spot?'

At least he has his priorities straight...

27 posted on 04/26/2011 6:45:57 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Prison over-population could be eased by more time at the range for law enforcement officers.)
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To: marktwain
I always wonder about these cases, They should be investigated as a homicide with the man being the peime suspect.

What a convenient excuse for killing your wife girl freind ect.

Home come they are not just wounded.

I remember when my kids were 2 they would have had a hard time holding let alone shooting any size of pistol.

Makes me wounder if the kid had some help.

28 posted on 04/26/2011 6:47:05 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

There was a book or movie about how a man would play a game with his young child to pull the trigger in an unloaded gun on his mother when she was sleeping. Eventually he loaded the gun, and blamed the kid.


29 posted on 04/26/2011 6:47:32 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Dusty Road
They will test for powder residue.

From the article:

The man has been questioned by police and submitted to a gun residue test to determine if the toddler really fired the weapon.

The results have not been released.

30 posted on 04/26/2011 7:08:56 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: marktwain

We’ll see this on “48 Hours” and you can bet the husband/father did it.


31 posted on 04/26/2011 7:11:45 AM PDT by golf lover
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To: marktwain

someone (a gun enthusiast) once told me that if you pick up the pistol, hold it with your off hand, and can pull the trigger with the pinky finger of that hand, then a child can pull that trigger also. Don’t know if that is true or not.


32 posted on 04/26/2011 9:56:52 AM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: proud American in Canada

“I’m no gun expert, but why would you have a loaded gun laying around when you have a two year old child?”

In most of these cases, alchohol/drug induced stupidity or just plain regular stupidity is involved.


33 posted on 04/26/2011 11:29:40 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: Farmer Dean
They come standard with 5lb. triggers. 8 lb. triggers can be factory installed if requested.

CC

34 posted on 04/26/2011 10:04:30 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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