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Woman mauled to death by pit bulls in New Mexico
Al-Reuters ^ | 25 APR 11 | (Reporting by Zelie Polon; Writing by Alex Dobuzinskis; Editing by Dan Whitcomb and Jerry Norton)

Posted on 04/26/2011 6:45:43 AM PDT by DCBryan1

(Reuters) - A woman has been mauled to death by a pack of four pit bulls in the town of Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, authorities said on Monday.

Margaret Salcedo, 48, was walking alone when the dogs, which had escaped from a fenced yard at a private home, attacked her at an intersection on Sunday afternoon, Truth or Consequences Police Chief Patrick Gallagher said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: attack; dogsofpeace; irresponsibleowner; pitbull; pitbulls
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Pit Bull Attack!
1 posted on 04/26/2011 6:45:46 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

Truth or Consequences? Sounds like Truth AND consequences.

The poor woman. Must’ve been terrifying and awful.


2 posted on 04/26/2011 6:50:52 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: DCBryan1

All animals are God’s creatures, and I’m reluctant to see any of God’s creatures destroyed. That said, all pit bulls should be killed, or kept in captivity. They are too dangerous to be around humans. We don’t let tigers roam the streets, why should we let pit bulls roam the streets?


3 posted on 04/26/2011 6:51:21 AM PDT by JoeFromCA
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To: DCBryan1
New Mexico State Police officials were conferring with the local District Attorney's Office to determine if criminal charges are warranted.

No, I'd say that the dead woman's estate should pay for the loss of these dogs. After all, the little bowsers were probably provoked.(\sarc)

I just can't imagine any city allowing anyone to keep these feral animals behind fences, in their yards, or anywhere around humans.

4 posted on 04/26/2011 6:53:29 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: rocksblues

bfl


5 posted on 04/26/2011 6:57:52 AM PDT by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: DCBryan1

Is that you Chet 99?


6 posted on 04/26/2011 6:59:06 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: laweeks
I just can't imagine any city allowing anyone to keep these feral animals behind fences, in their yards, or anywhere around humans.

Arkansas go pounded (pardon the pun) by tornados last night. A call went out from a deputy that he had to kill 2 pitbulls that chased him to his car on the scanner I was listening to.

Many people are missing in the Vilonia area, 7 are dead from last nights storm.

Shortly after the dog shooting, the Faulkner County Fire Chief (Incident Commander) said to shoot and kill any loose pit bulls or other dangerous dogs that are loose since they are in a rescue mode now. Luckily Arkansas CARE and Humane society are on scene to secure pets that lost their homes.

I'm glad they shot the pit bulls though that decided to "tree" a deputy.

7 posted on 04/26/2011 7:01:19 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: JoeFromCA
We don’t let tigers roam the streets, why should we let pit bulls roam the streets?

Given the proper care and training, tigers are perfectly harmless.

8 posted on 04/26/2011 7:01:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Is that you Chet 99?

LOL...I'm no Romneybot or RINObot FRiend ;)

9 posted on 04/26/2011 7:02:09 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: DCBryan1

RIP.


10 posted on 04/26/2011 7:03:26 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Given the proper care and training, tigers are perfectly harmless.

Like this guy?

Roy Horn (Seigfreid and Roy Tiger Attack)

11 posted on 04/26/2011 7:05:40 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: DCBryan1
1) Large and/or aggressive breed of dog? Yes. Pit bulls.
2) Running loose, often >1 running loose? Yes. A pack of four out looking to raise hell.
3) Prior reports of running loose and/or aggression? Not reported.
4) Unrealistic expectation of gentleness in regards to the dog from dog owner, often despite #3 above? If they were where they could all break out and run loose - yes.

I support criminal charges. Four pit bulls who, if they broke out, would (and did) hunt down and kill a woman walking down the street - are a deadly weapon left unattended and unsecured by the two moron pit bull owners in question.

12 posted on 04/26/2011 7:09:03 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DCBryan1
Hope the owners incur ‘consequences’. . .seemed ‘iffy’ by story as of writing. This is truly horrible and pathetic.
13 posted on 04/26/2011 7:12:21 AM PDT by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: JoeFromCA

Aren’t dogs already kept in captivity?


14 posted on 04/26/2011 7:12:34 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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Very sad. What a horrible death.

IMO, pit bulls are time bombs waiting to go off.

Yeah, yeah, I know the mantra about it all depends on how the dog is raised. I know a nice suburban couple like that. Lovingly raised their pit bull from a small pup. At about a year old, the dog attacked the woman as she was sitting on the couch. The husband couldn’t get the dog to release and ended up having to shoot the dog. The dog’s jaws remained clamped on the woman’s arm - the fire department had to use a tool to pry the dog’s jaws apart.


15 posted on 04/26/2011 7:16:55 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: Kipp

They are wolves without the intelligence.


16 posted on 04/26/2011 7:20:31 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: allmendream

If someone’s four collies or golden retrievers are at large and maul and kill someone they should be (the owner) held accountable. And I don’t think a dog wakes up one morning and becomes a killer, regardless of the breed (baring some weird health issue). The owners know when a dog has the potential to bite, much less kill or seriously injure someone.
Bottom line, leash laws, dogs need to be under owners control regardless of breed, owners need to be held accountable, and before they hurt someone, regardless of breed. Most pit bulls never bite anyone.
And no, I have golden retrievers, in case that was your next question, but even if you killed all pit bulls tomorrow, there would be another breed to take their place. The idiots who like to own some big bad dog would get a cane corso or mastiff or something, breed the nastiest thing they could find and suddenly we would be hearing an outcry about that breed. If we could ban stupid people it would help.
Oh, and prayers for the family of the poor woman. What an awful way to die.


17 posted on 04/26/2011 7:22:23 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: DCBryan1
The pit-bull breeder and druggies will say she ask for it. Shoot the owner and let the dogs eat him.
18 posted on 04/26/2011 7:22:36 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: DCBryan1
"..which had escaped from a fenced yard at a private home.."

The owner need jail time.

19 posted on 04/26/2011 7:29:57 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DCBryan1

Like, its just so weird.

They never did that before. I just don’t get it.


20 posted on 04/26/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by super7man
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To: brytlea
Absolutely. I was not targeting the breed at all.

I own a large and/or (in this case AND) aggressive breed of dog; a Bull Mastiff.

She and her mom broke out of my brothers yard when I was visiting him last month and were running loose.

She does have a prior history of aggression against small dogs and (if they get in her way) the people who own them.

I try really hard not to have an unreasonable expectation of gentleness from her - and for the unsecured facility I blame my brother and his unreasonable expectations.

But other than that I was 4/4 of my own criteria!!!!!

And if those two hunted down and were violent to a person and/or a dog - I would think criminal charges and legal liability would be fully justified.

It isn't the breed. It is the type of person who thinks having four big mean dogs in a yard not sufficient to hold them, four big mean dogs who once loose would be on the prowl for blood - is a really cool thing and nothing to be worried about.

With four of them I suspect that the dogs NEVER got out and about unless they broke out. When the only avenue for fun and excitement is breaking out - guess what is mission #1 for the dog?

21 posted on 04/26/2011 7:31:03 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Kipp

LOL and you actually believe that??!!


22 posted on 04/26/2011 7:31:53 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: DCBryan1

There was a report on a local radio station last week that a pit bull in our area was killed by a deputy sheriff after the officer went to investigate complaints by neighbors.

They are dangerous animals to own and should be allowed to be killed by anyone threatened by them if they stray from their own property or if not kept in control by the owners.


23 posted on 04/26/2011 7:35:16 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: allmendream

I gotcha. One of the coolest dogs I ever met was a bull mastiff named Music Man. Of course, he was being shown (I think he may have been number one at the time). He was awesome, very sweet and what a beautiful boy. A little too much dog for me, sizewise tho.
And yeah, dogs are a big responsibility, lots of people ought not. They get them for the wrong reasons, they toss them in the back yard, don’t socialize them, etc. Fortunately for me, if my golden did get out (can’t happen here as I don’t have a yard so she’s never out without me—but just supposing) she would not bite. But you know, she could jump up and knock someone down. And since we live in an area with lots of elderly they could get hurt. And guess what? My responsibility.
I just wish there weren’t so many stupid people who think it’s cool to have a mean or mean looking dog. It used to be GSD, then Dobies, then Rotties, now Pits.


24 posted on 04/26/2011 7:42:48 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: JoeFromCA

There is one halfway rational use for pit bulls and one only i.e. hog hunting, and that does not go on in or around urban or suburban areas. Nobody should tolerate some a****** neighbor wanting to keep pit bulls in urban or suburban areas.


25 posted on 04/26/2011 7:45:19 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: SharpRightTurn

Why shouldn’t you be able to kill any dog that threatens your life? Why just pit bulls? Or am I misunderstanding and this is what you’re saying?


26 posted on 04/26/2011 7:45:39 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: wendy1946

I guess next you’ll tell me that I can only have goldens if I intend to bird hunt with them...


27 posted on 04/26/2011 7:48:02 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: DCBryan1

Sorry. I couldn’t help my self.

Chet 99 had a sick fixation about people and pets mauld by pitbulls.

Also, I knew you were not Chet because of your membership date.


28 posted on 04/26/2011 7:50:43 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: brytlea

I view the modern compound bow as the basic answer to neighborhood pit bulls...


29 posted on 04/26/2011 7:51:21 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Oh, I just read your about page. LOL


30 posted on 04/26/2011 8:00:11 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: wendy1946
the modern compound bow as the basic answer to neighborhood pit bulls...

That would be a good tagline!

31 posted on 04/26/2011 8:17:55 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I aways thought chet posted the stuff because he had a family member killed by one of the druggies dog of choice.
32 posted on 04/26/2011 8:26:13 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: DCBryan1; GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Sure did miss those vicious pitbull postings after Chet99 died.

Thanks for posting;-{)


33 posted on 04/26/2011 8:31:56 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize ;-{))
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To: wendy1946
Wendy, Wendy. I am afraid you are overreacting here. What are the lives of a few people: kids, old ladies, mail carriers etc., when held up against the hours of pleasure this wonderful, warm, and friendly breed gives in the few short periods during which their owners are not incarcerated?

As our President might, think of these losses, tragic as they may seem on an individual basis, as an investment. I am honored to be the President of a not-for-profit .org that seeks Pit Bull Reform. It's all about love, Wendy.

When the owners of pit bulls are incarcerated, we think they should be able to share their cells with their beloved pets, especially if they own 2 or 3. Occasionally none of the occupants of the cell, human or canine can be fed, as prison budgets are tight these days. The pit bulls will manage, which is the important thing.

34 posted on 04/26/2011 8:39:24 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Qadafi and Obama share a common advantage. No organized opposition.)
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To: JoeProBono

Crumbs...He died?

While I didn’t like him, I certainly did not wish such an awful thing on him…maybe.

Please fill me in. Was he eaten by a pit bull?

I thought the monitors fired him.


35 posted on 04/26/2011 9:05:11 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: JoeFromCA

Joe, are you always so general about what you think? Because a few, very few, pit bulls have bitten people you believe ALL should be put to death or placed in captivity? How far would you like to take that? I’m not even a big fan of pit bulls, but your comment is a big overreaction even to the death of this poor individual. You don’t kill all of anything because less than 1% have been involved in a serious biting incident. You see?


36 posted on 04/26/2011 9:13:10 AM PDT by politicalmerc (The whole earth may move, but God's throne is never shaken. I think I'll stand by Him..)
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To: DCBryan1

The hype about Pit Bulls is just that, hype. There is a large population of Pit Bulls but as a percentage of their population they bite and kill less than many other large dogs. Take a look.

Other dog populations (United States):

(estimation) Pit Bulls: 5,256,000

(estimation) Rottweilers: 900,000

(estimation) German Shepherds: 780,000

(estimation) Chows: 240,000

Fatal attacks by these breeds of dogs (1979-1998):

Pit Bulls: 66

Rottweilers: 39

German Shepherds: 17

Chows: 8

When we divide the population by the fatal attacks, we can get a percentage based on the dogs probability of fatally attacking a human.

Pit Bulls: .00125 %

Rottweilers: .00433 %

German Shepherds: .00217%

Chow: .00333%


37 posted on 04/26/2011 9:22:50 AM PDT by politicalmerc (The whole earth may move, but God's throne is never shaken. I think I'll stand by Him..)
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To: laweeks

Truth or Consequences is a place unlike any other formerly Hot Springs NM its close to Elephant Butte Lake


38 posted on 04/26/2011 9:25:55 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Kipp
This is just another "Real World" reason to carry a firearm on your body ...not in a drawer in the den or the glove compartment of your car.........

This happened on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.....enjoying life....minding her own business....with an expected 20 to 30 year more average life expectancy........Chewed to death on a street corner by a pack of pit bulls.......

BTW...in rural Pulaski Co. we shoot loose pitbulls on site as if it were a Rattlesnake under a merry-go-round.

39 posted on 04/26/2011 9:35:23 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: DCBryan1

But, but, but... they make such great pets. /s


40 posted on 04/26/2011 9:36:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The only thing higher than Obama's chin, is his ass facing West five times a day.)
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To: DCBryan1

41 posted on 04/26/2011 9:47:36 AM PDT by woofie
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To: JoeFromCA
All animals are God’s creatures, and I’m reluctant to see any of God’s creatures destroyed. That said, all pit bulls should be killed, or kept in captivity. They are too dangerous to be around humans. We don’t let tigers roam the streets, why should we let pit bulls roam the streets?

First, we don't let pit bulls or any other dogs run loose. There are laws to deal with this sort of thing, and if local officials aren't enforcing them, that's not the fault of the breed. Second, do you have any scientific data you can cite that indicate pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds of dog?

42 posted on 04/26/2011 9:57:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: politicalmerc
facts are always lost on the ignorant

it's basically that these people here have an issue with the sorts of folks who tend to own pits that attack

black thugs, latino thugs and white trash thugs

granted they will thrash bad crackers but they are too scared to get all froggy about the baggy pants black men who own many pits that they see or endure being around

so they focus on the dog.

yes pits can be dangerous but it's the culture they are in ...and their numbers...and btw....the standard on pits is very very loose...not nearly as defined as say Dobermans

when I grew up it was a fixation first on the GSD after WWII camps and civil unrest in urban America as the bad dog of choice, then that silly movie and Dobermans became the monster dog, then a movie yet again ...the Omen with Peck and Remick and Holden...and Rottweilers as devil dogs and they exploded and killed too...still do

now it's Pits because feral minorities and other trash like them for fighting and showing off

all of this leads to Specific Breed Legislation...something Chet was strongly in favor of

Myself...if I wanted a very tough dog would probably get a Caucasian Mountain Dog...a highland uberMastiff of sorts....but I don't think I could handle one...Google and you'll see why

But make mistake Pits are dog fighter and catch livestock or hogs dogs...they are not the best dogs for mankilling...they usually kill older women or children

the more dangerous dogs are larger...GSDs, Dobies, all Mastiffs, Corsos, Presas, Rotts, Filas, Dogos and my dog...the American Bulldog..Scott lines mostly..a rare blackie

it's just how it is.

Ban pitbulls and in 10 years everyone will own teacup Yorkies if you want a dog

it will be just like gay rights or gun control or race redress....it simply won't stop with just what you guys intended

btw...if any dog attacks you or your’s...kill it.

there is a difference between a "you messed with me" bite or nip and an attack...and with big dogs it's easy to tell which is which.....i have never been bit by a dog and I've owned all the major defense breeds in my half century...but recently...my ABD snarled at my 10 year old when he took the dog's chew toy without proper persuasion...he just grabbed it....Big Boy snarled and lunged a bit...I stopped car...opened door...spoke very hard and smacked him seriously...as in man punch on that huge head..after a few he gave a little growl...I knew then I'd be testing my luck to take my point any further and his black eyes were rather dark...a sign of fear for you newbies....when we got home...he immediately got out of the car...ran over to me and rolled over on his back...and went full submissive to pack leader

I have raised big dogs for many years and they can all kill you if they go beserk.....the point as a responsible owner is don't ever let them figure that out and treat them right and they won't wish to anyhow...they will desire to protect you...and pits honestly are rather small in comparison....whispering might work for horses but with pack canines...I have my doubts....you have to be firm if you are pack leader...our big dog knows the order in our large family...he loves wifey and number 4 child best but he watches me for leadership folks who fear big territorial dogs should not buy them or buy smallish females though they can be pretty tough too *never cut a big male unless he is going to roam...and letting big boys roam is not smart unless you live way way out in which case leave the stones I hate seeing magnificent big guard dogs with no nuts

another note...sometimes dogs just don't like someone for some reason...not always easy to spot...usually it's fear they sense or that they think that person is up to no good...in that case...you need a cage for that time when those folks are around...better safe than sorry

43 posted on 04/26/2011 10:00:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: laweeks

Do you have any scientific data you can cite that indicate pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds of dog?


44 posted on 04/26/2011 10:03:19 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: humblegunner; Salamander
*gasp* They're back! Alert the Hippo Attack List!

In the meantime, "Pitbull Savagely Mauls Kyoot Widdle Kitten!"

45 posted on 04/26/2011 10:05:36 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: DoughtyOne
But, but, but... they make such great pets. /s

A co-worker who has LOTS of dogs on her farm, told me use google. She said to google "pit bull attacks" "GSD attacks" "Rottwieler" attacks, and "Chow attacks" and then click on Images.

Looks like google images has me convinced of the problematic nature of pit bulls (and their idiotic owners) on unprovoked attacks on innocent, ordinary citizens. Pit bulls are NOT the same analogy to assault rifles in the "gun culture"...they are more like land mines IMHO.

46 posted on 04/26/2011 10:05:52 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Second, do you have any scientific data you can cite that indicate pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds of dog? “

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Ask any gangsta. That’s why they have them.

Yet another mere coincidence involving a pit bull.


47 posted on 04/26/2011 10:06:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Kipp
IMO, pit bulls are time bombs waiting to go off.

Do you have any scientific data you can cite that supports your opinion?

The dog’s jaws remained clamped on the woman’s arm - the fire department had to use a tool to pry the dog’s jaws apart.

That story is pure BS. There is no mechanism in this breed's anatomy (or the anatomy of any other dog) that locks their jaws. A dead dog would release instantly. Either they lied to you or your telling tales.

48 posted on 04/26/2011 10:09:47 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: RobbyS
They are wolves without the intelligence.

Do you have any scientific data you can cite that supports that assessment?

49 posted on 04/26/2011 10:11:27 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: brytlea

Excellent post.


50 posted on 04/26/2011 10:12:38 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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