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Does America's Internet Pornography Industry Hurt America's Image in Foreign Countries?

Posted on 04/26/2011 1:16:40 PM PDT by pinochet

I recently had a conversation with a missionary who has worked in the Middle East and South Asia. He told me that most Middle Easterners who get internet access, usually get to learn about America's huge internet pornography industry.

He says that the porn industry causes many foreigners to have contempt for America, as a nation of moral degenerates. This greatly harms attempts by American missionaries to get converts. It also harms US foreign policy, because their image of American culture, is that of gay sex pictures, bestiality pictures, and other peversions.

I do not favor completely outlawing pornography. But I believe that all internet websites should be blocked off, with access being made possible only to adults who have credit cards. What do you think of the idea?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: censorship; conservativedhimis; cultureofcorruption; culturewar; foreignnations; internet; morals; nannystate; pornification; pornography; sexpositiveagenda
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A 12 year old child cannot legally buy cigarettes or alcohol. But he can have access to pictures and films of gay sex, s&m, and bestiality, at the touch of a button. Does this make sense?

The stores that sell hustler or penthouse, do not sell magazines to people under the age of 18. Why shouldn't the same rules apply on the internet? Bestiality is also illegal in most states, just like child porn. Then why is the stuff allowed on the internet?

The porn industry has severely harmed America's image in the world.

1 posted on 04/26/2011 1:16:46 PM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

They are watching porn on the internet and saying we are the problem.

Where have I heard this before, hum...


2 posted on 04/26/2011 1:18:54 PM PDT by edcoil (Democrats doing to America what Reagan did to russia. Driving it to bankrupcy.)
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To: pinochet
Bestiality is also illegal in most states.


3 posted on 04/26/2011 1:19:23 PM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: pinochet
But I believe that all internet websites should be blocked off, with access being made possible only to adults who have credit cards. What do you think of the idea?

1. Who gets to define what constitutes "pornography"?
2. Who would you put in charge to enforce the blockage of sites?

4 posted on 04/26/2011 1:19:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pinochet
More porn comes out of Russia/Eastern Europe than anywhere else.

Not to mention Japan.

5 posted on 04/26/2011 1:20:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You're not going to challenge a hate America first argument with facts are you?
6 posted on 04/26/2011 1:22:35 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 824 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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I would argue that, yes, our smut has damaged us worldwide. However, I’d say it’s not just porn. When I was in Australia, (which is free with the porn - make no mistake) I heard many, many comments about “trashy American rubbish” coming out of Hollywood. So it’s not just porn - it’s our TV & movies, too.


7 posted on 04/26/2011 1:25:57 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: dfwgator

“1. Who gets to define what constitutes “pornography”?”

It is not that difficult, really. If it depicts a sex act, it’s pornography.


8 posted on 04/26/2011 1:26:09 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: library user

I don’t know about our image but that pic sure as He double L hurts something LMAO.


9 posted on 04/26/2011 1:28:16 PM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: pinochet

Utter, total, Bravo Sierra!

Moslims hated and attacked everyone else since MadMo first gathered together some of the local Sand Savages and set them on a path of slaving, robbery, rape, and murder.

America was unknown when the Queeran MadMo claimed it was revealed to him by the local Moon God he called Allah. The Internet was 1,400 years in the future when Moslim behavior was set in stone. Moslim behavior then was exactly as Moslim behavior is today.

PS Moslim behavior IS pornographic, as anyone who has dealt with Moslims can tell you. Google Afghan Dancing Boys if you have any doubts.

PPS Don’t forget to google Moslim “female excision”. Don’t forget to check the pictures and the videos. You will see Islam at its fundamental savagery.


10 posted on 04/26/2011 1:28:19 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: pinochet

Yes it hurts America’s image abroad. Just look at how Islamic “protesters” in Egypt raped an American journalist because she was American.


11 posted on 04/26/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: library user

This is one of the downsides of FR. You’re just moseying along, purusing a thread and BAM!, a Helen Thomas pic.

I’m gonna go throw up now. And wash my eyes with bleach.


12 posted on 04/26/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>Not to mention Japan.

I volunteer my tech services and belong to an anime fansub group. I also am active in that community. Japan is the biggest child pornography market in the world and their hentai’ mangas and animes make whatever Europe’s sickest and perverted vision look like choir boys. It is “absolute hard rape” when it comes to Japanese porno.

I don’t get why any foreign countries image of us would be so important when they are more God-less, liberal plus the world hates us, regardless of whomever the president may be.


13 posted on 04/26/2011 1:28:57 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: DonaldC
If it depicts a sex act, it’s pornography

Well, that's your definition of pornography. The problem with regulating it is everyone's got a different definition.

14 posted on 04/26/2011 1:29:02 PM PDT by gdani
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To: pinochet
He says that the porn industry causes many foreigners to have contempt for America, as a nation of moral degenerates. This greatly harms attempts by American missionaries to get converts. It also harms US foreign policy, because their image of American culture, is that of gay sex pictures, bestiality pictures, and other peversions.

Of course it does. Our entertainment culture is a moral sewer and the rest of the world perceives us through that filter.
15 posted on 04/26/2011 1:30:01 PM PDT by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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To: pinochet

I’d say its hurt our image but not as badly as movies and TV have.


16 posted on 04/26/2011 1:30:20 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: pinochet

Which is worse?
Muslim honor killings, child abuse and wife beatings, pedophilia, and murdering infidels or good old American pornography?


17 posted on 04/26/2011 1:30:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: library user
You just had to do that, now didn't you..............

You owe me a new pair of eyeglasses. Mine just melted.

18 posted on 04/26/2011 1:31:01 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Avoid arguments with your wife about lifting the toilet seat by simply using the sink.)
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To: pinochet
I do not favor completely outlawing pornography. But I believe that all internet websites should be blocked off, with access being made possible only to adults who have credit cards. What do you think of the idea?

I think we should get naked and screw.

19 posted on 04/26/2011 1:31:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: dfwgator
1. Who gets to define what constitutes "pornography"?

Why is this concept so difficult to wrap your head around? I could define pornography--specifically--in a way that 90% of people would agree with.

Of all the canards regarding porn, this one is the most intellectually dishonest. It's the equivalent of saying, "It's too hard to define porn, so we shouldn't even bother trying."
20 posted on 04/26/2011 1:32:29 PM PDT by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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To: pinochet

That missionary should tune in to the Saudi channels on NileSat and check out the porn there.


21 posted on 04/26/2011 1:32:51 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Avoid arguments with your wife about lifting the toilet seat by simply using the sink.)
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To: pinochet

The same 12 year old girl or boy in a Muslim country can be wedded to an older man and be forced into sex ( in the case of the girl) or forced into religious state sanctioned sex slavery (in the case of young boys during war)...


22 posted on 04/26/2011 1:33:01 PM PDT by databoss
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To: surroundedbyblue
So it’s not just porn - it’s our TV & movies, too.

As well as Gangsta Rap, and crap like Lady Gaga.

23 posted on 04/26/2011 1:37:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pinochet

Aren’t Russia and Czech Republic the new capitals of p0rn?

(Just heard this somewhere)


24 posted on 04/26/2011 1:37:44 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: pinochet

RE the internet - ya’ gotta’ be lookin’ ta see it.


25 posted on 04/26/2011 1:38:17 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: gdani

“Well, that’s your definition of pornography. The problem with regulating it is everyone’s got a different definition.”

No, I defined pornography. Most people confuse nudity or near nudity with pornography. There is a difference.


26 posted on 04/26/2011 1:38:32 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: pinochet
Not as much as the drivel coming out of Hollywood.
They make big money making entertainment of behavior that would never be tolerated in reality but large chunks of the world believes that is what America is like.

27 posted on 04/26/2011 1:38:58 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: dfwgator

“As well as Gangsta Rap, and crap like Lady Gaga”

Yep. I could add to that list - MTV, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, the Kardashian bimbettes, etc etc etc etc


28 posted on 04/26/2011 1:39:29 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: pinochet
The anonymous nature of the internet is the greatest threat to tyranny since the invention of the gun.

Every attempt to censor or shut down sites for the "protection of the children" will only give powerful governments the tools they need to control all content.

Keep your eyes on your children and their internet usage, but don't let the government do the same to you.

29 posted on 04/26/2011 1:39:32 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: pinochet

Sooo, a Christian missionary is having trouble converting Muslims to his brand, and we are supposed to use this as a reason to alter US foreign policy? Or business policy? Both?

Have we reached such a state of desperation that some would deprive others of rights (heck they might even give up those rights themselves, sometimes) so as to favor one business over another? Doesn’t sound like America to me.

And why in the names of all who are holy would you want the credit card companies to be the arbiter of morality in your world?


30 posted on 04/26/2011 1:41:15 PM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: library user


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31 posted on 04/26/2011 1:42:41 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: fnord
Sooo, a Christian missionary is having trouble converting Muslims to his brand, and we are supposed to use this as a reason to alter US foreign policy? Or business policy? Both?

Also, remember when they rampaged in Afghanistan, because some preacher burned a Koran, what they were really rampaging against was the fact, that we actually have the freedoms in this country to do such a thing.

32 posted on 04/26/2011 1:44:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pinochet

Despite this crippling ‘image’ problem we are one of the few nations on earth to which hordes of immigrants flow every day of every year, including many from these so-called morally superior countries.


33 posted on 04/26/2011 1:46:38 PM PDT by relictele
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Arabs are sexual deviates so the point is moot.


34 posted on 04/26/2011 1:47:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Then there is Japan where there is a thriving vending machine business selling used little girls panties and possession of kiddy porn is not a crime.

35 posted on 04/26/2011 1:47:20 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: DonaldC

“If it depicts a sex act, it’s pornography.”

Wow, I had no idea that “Black Swan” or “300” was pornography!


36 posted on 04/26/2011 1:47:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: pinochet
Does America's Internet Pornography Industry Hurt America's Image in Foreign Countries?
Does Rampant Prostitution in Foreign Countries Hurt Their Image?

The porn industry has severely harmed America's image in the world.
Woe to Thailand and several Far East countries.
Their image is equivalent to a Helen Thomas picture.

37 posted on 04/26/2011 1:50:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DonaldC

Then you might also consider that people have varying definitions of “sex acts”. (Think, Bill Clinton)


38 posted on 04/26/2011 1:52:14 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: pinochet

Having grown up in an international city, traveled a bit, lived abroad for years, and talked to many people in all those places who were visiting from still other places, the short answer I’d give is, yes.

Do Americans really want to be thought of as the world’s favorite whores? And if prostitution is illegal, as I think it should be, than how can filming people being paid for sex acts be legal, rather than evidence of crime?


39 posted on 04/26/2011 1:53:25 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: pinochet

40 posted on 04/26/2011 1:53:28 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is the antithesis of conservatism)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank you, good sir.

Your vow of celibacy, though mercifully short lived, hurt America's image in foreign countries more than any luscious babe with big hoots doing what comes natural.

41 posted on 04/26/2011 1:54:43 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: pinochet

Like faggotry, just keep your porn in the closet and we’ll ignore it.


42 posted on 04/26/2011 1:55:26 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: DonaldC

This could get into many grey areas. What about 2 people “between the sheets” in an R-rated movie? I am pretty sure they are depicting a sex act. Does that make it pornography?


43 posted on 04/26/2011 1:56:51 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: dfwgator

Who gets to define what constitutes “pornography”?

We figured it out in the 50s. I would rather swing more right than wrong on this subject. I have seen Victoria secret ads at 7 PM on TV. Of course, VS is nothing compared to other commercials and TV shows. Soft porn is all over the place. No name calling here for me, but I would rather err on the side of decency that on the side of porn.


44 posted on 04/26/2011 1:56:51 PM PDT by Bitsy ( i)
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Time to bring back the Blue Laws.

This country has been going down hill ever since women were allowed to buy pantyhose on Sunday.

If than must mean because.


45 posted on 04/26/2011 2:00:37 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: pinochet
A 12 year old child cannot legally buy cigarettes or alcohol. But he can have access to pictures and films of gay sex, s&m, and bestiality, at the touch of a button. Does this make sense?
Parents have the ability to control their children's Internet access. However, some parents don't exhort any control over what their children access because mentally they're little more than children themselves. Does this make sense?

You sound like a Prohibitionist from ages past. The desire to control things always bites back.

46 posted on 04/26/2011 2:01:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: library user
See #37. I did not read the thread before replying.
47 posted on 04/26/2011 2:03:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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The clue is that NO ONE CAN DEFINE PORNOGRAPHY but they know what they like.


48 posted on 04/26/2011 2:04:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pinochet

America did not create pornography.
America is not the source of the rawest pornography (there are still laws here against obscenity, unlike many other countries).
America allows pornography because America allows free speech, a fact that should ENHANCE its image abroad, not hurt it.
America should never sacrifice freedoms to earn the world’s favor.

Much of the porn viewed on the internet is free, so I doubt your plan would work. Its ready access by children may actually be its death; a large part of porn’s appeal is its salaciousness, the “forbidden fruit” nature of its subject. If kids have been exposed to it for years, it removes much of that mystique and renders it just another ho-hum subject on the internet.


49 posted on 04/26/2011 2:04:36 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Bitsy

So you would support bringing back The Hays Commission?


50 posted on 04/26/2011 2:07:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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