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Fatherís race on the Obama birth certificate: only a curiosity or a smoking gun? (new info)
Lucianne.com ^ | April 26, 2011 | Lawrence Sellin

Posted on 04/27/2011 1:42:09 AM PDT by Ordinary_American

For the sake of argument, let’s say that the terminology is peculiar to Hawaii and Obama filed a Late Certificate of Birth or perhaps his documents were updated in recent years.

In that case, the publicly available COLB must reflect what is written on the source birth documents, even updated ones.

In Appendix B “Hawaii Model – Standard for Clustering Race/Ethnicity Categories” contained in an article published in 2003 by employees of the Hawaii Department of Health, the word “African” appears as an “Aggregated Ethnic Group” under the race category “Black (non-Hispanic)”. That differs from the categories in Appendix A, which apparently represented an earlier version and did not contain the word “African”.

Unless I am mistaken, that information might suggest that Barack Obama’s birth data were updated around 2003 or thereafter.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama
Translation: Obama changed his birth information after 2003 because new Hawaii Department of Health terminology was used.

source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35884

1 posted on 04/27/2011 1:42:14 AM PDT by Ordinary_American
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To: Ordinary_American

It would still be ‘black’ or “African-American”. Wouldn’t it? African isn’t a race. Obvious error.

The explanation from the left has been that in Kenya ‘African’ is a common race designation and how Sr. would have referred to himself.

Problem: It’s a government form. Check boxes typically. You can’t make up your own race designations. The race statistics are kept and reported.


2 posted on 04/27/2011 1:49:07 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Ordinary_American

The new information in the article indicates that Obama changed his birth certificate information after 2003 because new Hawaii Department of Health terminology was used on the Certification of Live Birth that was posted on Obama’s website and FactCheck.org. Most likely he filed a Late Certificate of Birth after 2003, which contained the new race identifier “African” for his father.


3 posted on 04/27/2011 1:50:03 AM PDT by Ordinary_American
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To: Ordinary_American

Good info! Thanks!

I was hoping someone would eventually confirm this. I know back in the 1960s we used the word “negro” but I didn’t want to jump to any conclusions without knowing for sure how that race would have been described in Hawaii at the time (especially since it had recently become a state).


4 posted on 04/27/2011 1:51:52 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Ordinary_American

I’m more likely to believe a simple act like this is the issue than the citizenship part or being born outside of the US. You have a guy who has very efficiently scripted himself...like a character on TV. Each piece of his scripted history tells a story that impresses you. As long as each piece fits...it’s a great character.

There are various documents which could spill out on the floor and take away from the scripted character....and make him less of a legend. I would suspect this is the trail upon us...little simple character bits which aren’t completely true.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 1:56:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigerClaws

Check the source article: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35884

There is a link there to the new Hawaii Department of Health race categories, which identifies Obama’s father as “African”. That means Obama must have updated his birth information after 2003, when the new categories started being used.

The hidden file probably contains a Late Certificate of Birth, which was probably completed within the last six years.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 1:57:19 AM PDT by Ordinary_American
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To: Ordinary_American

I wonder who changed it


7 posted on 04/27/2011 1:58:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: butterdezillion

Info Ping.

We have speculated that Obama has been making changes adding to his record as late as 2006.


8 posted on 04/27/2011 2:06:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Ordinary_American

As was noted two weeks ago... the rumor in DC has been that the race on his original birth certificate read “Caucasian” and that was why he has spent so much money fighting release of the original.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 3:12:17 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: TigerClaws

I always suspected that what Obama is trying to hide is that his father’s race is entered as something other than negro. His father was or was supposed to be, if I’ve heard correctly, 3/4 Arab, and his race could have been entered as caucasian.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 3:13:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: tsowellfan

There is also a stamp showing through from the back of the doc that says “2007.”


11 posted on 04/27/2011 3:15:56 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: ez
Flashback: John Brennan Involved in Obama Passport Breach
12 posted on 04/27/2011 3:22:55 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: TigerClaws

” It would still be ‘black’ or “African-American”. Wouldn’t it? African isn’t a race.”

neither is African-American


13 posted on 04/27/2011 3:28:46 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: TigerClaws

Obama’s father could not be African-American because he was not American.


14 posted on 04/27/2011 3:34:49 AM PDT by NautiNurse (ObamaCare uses Bernie Madoff theory of economics)
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To: Ordinary_American

If it was updated in 2006, then it would have the word “AMENDED” stamped on it and it would have the original “Date accepted.” The original BC was sealed after the Soetoro adoption was finalized. The Soetoro COLB was sealed after the Soetoro adoption was annulled and the Obama COLB was “filed” by court order. “Amended” does not appear on the COLB because one is considered original and not updated.


15 posted on 04/27/2011 3:45:54 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: TigerClaws

“It would still be ‘black’ or “African-American”. Wouldn’t it? African isn’t a race. Obvious error.”

I don’t know. We have people here that insist “Mexican” is a race.


16 posted on 04/27/2011 4:14:33 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

> “It would still be ‘black’ or “African-American”. Wouldn’t it? African isn’t a race. Obvious error.”
> I don’t know. We have people here that insist “Mexican” is a race.

African isn’t a race and neither is Mexican or American.
The liberals and others who speak fluent moron in our government can’t tell the difference betweence race and nationality, and they can’t bring themselves to utter the words “black” or “negro” without spazzing out and falling to the floor in convulsive seizures.


17 posted on 04/27/2011 4:39:03 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: TigerClaws
"...and how Sr. would have referred to himself

I think I'll run up to the records department today and have my race changed to "African", you know, so I can get some of those affirmative action benefits and job preferences.

Is, "excuse me, what race would you like listed on the birth certificate?" a common question to parents of newborns...or should we rely on the Doctor and Hospital to determine that information...as most of us have a Doctor and Hospital on our REAL, long form birth certificates.

LANYARD
18 posted on 04/27/2011 4:52:32 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Back in 1961 we only had 3 races Caucasian, Negroid and Oriental.

My how the human race has evolved in those few short years with all the new races!


19 posted on 04/27/2011 4:55:50 AM PDT by Surfer Bert (Remember when seconds count police are only minutes away)
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To: Ordinary_American

It would be interesting to see what the number sequence is for the COLBs in 2003 - perhaps they fit better with the COLB that Obama has offered than in 1961, which has much lower numbers, if my memory is correct. I can’t find a copy of it that has the number, but I know it didn’t fit in with the births surrounding Obama’s.


20 posted on 04/27/2011 5:05:58 AM PDT by cinciella
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To: ez
There is also a stamp showing through from the back of the doc that says “2007.”

That's the date the Certification of Live Birth was printed and stamped on the back. Not saying that any other funny business happened, but the stamp is merely a release date for that form.

Similarly, I would like to know how much the term "African" was used when the birth records were typed in to their computer records? Was it the accepted term for entering the birth records? Or was it a special case? Or did a data entry clerk just decide to use that term on his/her own?

21 posted on 04/27/2011 5:17:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: KarlInOhio
the term "African"

Is that the same as "Afrikaner"?

22 posted on 04/27/2011 5:21:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: tsowellfan

thanks


23 posted on 04/27/2011 6:18:41 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Surfer Bert

My b.c. has my parents listed as white.


24 posted on 04/27/2011 6:31:45 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Ordinary_American
Here are some more "Africans."


25 posted on 04/27/2011 6:33:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (0bama - More excuses than D.C. has a$$holes)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No. Afrikaners were the Dutch of S. Africa.


26 posted on 04/27/2011 6:34:21 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

He is African, not Arab. He was born in Kenya, not Arabia.

People thought he was Arab because he was a “Muslim”.


27 posted on 04/27/2011 6:35:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: kabumpo

(I know)


28 posted on 04/27/2011 2:39:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: BuffaloJack

“African isn’t a race and neither is Mexican or American.
The liberals and others who speak fluent moron in our government can’t tell the difference betweence race and nationality, and they can’t bring themselves to utter the words “black” or “negro” without spazzing out and falling to the floor in convulsive seizures.”

I totally agree BuffaloJack. There’s been efforts to redefine many things lately—race, nationality, sex, gender, marriage to name a few.


29 posted on 04/27/2011 5:13:05 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: TigerClaws
Do you know when they changed from using “White” to “Caucasian” on birth cert. also? I have seen a few from the 60’s and all state the race as “White” not “Caucasian”! Just looks like another discrepancy on their part.
30 posted on 04/27/2011 7:05:36 PM PDT by Texas Wonder
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