Skip to comments.Obama, lost in thought ["simple-minded partisans" frustrated]
Posted on 04/27/2011 2:02:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
When I covered George W. Bushs White House, my job was made easier by the simplicity of the subject. The president had a few defining mantras Cut taxes! Rally the base! Terrorists hate freedom! With us or against us! and most of his decisions could be understood, even predicted, by applying one of the overarching philosophies.
With President Obama, there is no such luxury. The political right is befuddled as it tries to explain him: First, Obama was a tyrant and a socialist; now hes a weakling who refuses to lead. The political left is almost as confused, demanding to know why Obama gave away so much on health care and in budget negotiations. Nearly everybody puzzles over Obamas ad hoc responses to Egypt, Libya and now Syria, grasping for a still-elusive Obama Doctrine.
Seeking a template to understand the enigmatic president, I consulted three leading academics in the fields of psychology and behavior. With their help, I put Obama on the couch and came away with a reasonably coherent diagnosis: Theres too much going on in the poor guys head.
...........In an ideal world, complex and rational thought would be virtues. But in politics, these attributes can make Obama seem ambiguous, without toughness or principles. It isnt because he lacks a moral compass its because he understands there are a lot of moral forces at play, U-Va.s Haidt says. This is why people get frustrated with him. The more of a partisan you are, the more simple-minded you are.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
"First and foremost, it's about not making a mistake," said Chris Lehane, who advised Vice President Al Gore during his 2000 debates, when Gore's loud sighing greatly damaged his cause. "It's about remembering people are not watching this like they're scoring a Harvard-Yale debate. They're watching this like they watch a TV show." Source
Obama has Teleprompter in Staff Meetings.
My husband just read this and remarked, “They think conservatives are a bunch of toothless rubes, playing a banjo all day long with a hound dog at our feet.”
Wait... Is that a real picture? He can’t even have a meeting without a teleprompter? With his own people??
He’s a freakin moron that is someones puppet. Why else would he need a teleprompter in such a meeting???
Where’s the “BARF ALERT”?!?!?!
How does one cleanse their mind after reading this partisan tripe psychobabble?
Sometimes the “telepromter fails.”
That's why he doesn't know whether he's Moslem or Christian, or homo- or heterosexual.
Complex and rational thought? Good grief, Dana...how much of the Kool-Aid did you drink?
The economy? Bush's fault.
Entangled in the Middle East? Cheney and big oil caused it.
Racial polarization? The Tea Party.
The deficit? Fat cats not paying 'their share'.
And now, of course, it's not that 0's a narcissistic bully that people don't appreciate the elegance of his thought; it's because all us peons is too stoopid to understand the complexity of his mind.
Perhaps, if 0 considered the needs of the country ahead of his golf games, if he kept at least one of his promises that would benefit the U.S.,
maybe, if 0 would put as much effort and forethought into leadership as he put into picking the bracket for collegiate basketball,
or even if he would practice the bi-partisanship he keeps hyping (even though he plays school-yard 'nyah nyah' games while doing that hyping),
MAYBE, people would begin to see 0 as a leader, rather than the poseur he has proven himself to be.
Excellent. I wonder why Milbank didn’t run the “This is the moment the planet hegan to heal...” quote past the perfessers— what kind of diagnosis do you get out of that?
Doesn't this statement negate the premise of the article?
No clothes is difficult to pull off ...Obama is a lousy liar but that hasnt slowed him down a bit
The guy is manufactured.
To sum up the article:
If only we mortals could comprehend the wonderfulness that is Obama.
“..and most of his[BUSH] decisions could be understood, even predicted, by applying one of the overarching philosophies.
With President Obama, there is no such luxury.”
The so-called Obama doctrine is simple.
If something will weaken America’s standing in the world, then he’s all for it.
If something will damage traditional American culture, society, and culture, then he’s all for it.
He’s a marxist, not a complex or enigmatic “thinker.”
I believe all his life he's been fed this hogwash, about how brilliant a mind he has and how great a thinker he is, and he probably believes it himself. Personally, I don't buy any of it for a moment.
Brilliant social and political analyst? Please! The man's not brilliant. Mediocre, at best, and probably too lazy to put the effort into even being that.
Oh, okay - that’s why Obama talks out of two sides of his mouth at the same time, can’t make up his mind, and has no set policy on anything (except for taking as much money as he can from everybody who still has any).
It’s because he’s “complex.”
I see - he only acts like an irresponsible idiot because he has a high IQ.
The latest mime from the Idiot Leftists in the Press, who are doing everything they can to salvage this political assclown.
I'm guessing George Soros and Bill Ayers to name a couple of the puppetmasters.
From the comments @ WaPo nobody is buying the crap Milbank is writing but these MFMedia cranks are determined to die trying to convince the unwashed about their messiah. It’s becoming unbecoming.
Nearly everybody puzzles over Obamas ad hoc responses to Egypt, Libya and now Syria, grasping for a still-elusive Obama Doctrine.
Not me. Obamas pretty much been what Ive expected based on the two main things I see in him:
#1 Hes incapable of thinking on his feet or understanding that there are problems in the world that dont play by orderly rules or (esp. in the case of foreign affairs) are even particularly rational. Obama lives in a world where you have to measure thrice before writing a paper on cutting once. Hes very good at that. But anything else rushes him. And IMHO, that further extends to a thought process that naively believes any issue, including those related to foreign affairs, can be reduced or controlled into a neat, lawyerly proceeding with the right policies. The reality is far messier, and always has been, even with the smartest diplomacy.
#2 I firmly believe Obama is just far too soft for the job of President. Ever since George Stephanapolous (sp?) had Obama reeling in the May 2008 Democratic primary debate, Ive seen him as someone who just isnt very tough. Since then, he has (among other things) let Pelosi and Reid walk all over him, reminded us he won on several occasions, dragged his feet on dealing with Afghanistan for so long that Dianne Feinstein jumped his case in public, and most recently snarled at a Texan reporter for not giving him enough time to answer tough questions. A leader has to be able to take a punch, and give as good as he (or she) gets. I just dont think Obama can do that.
All MHO, of course.
Good comments but the professors (anticipating such arguments) counter with:
1. Hes disadvantaged because The complex thinker can suffer from analysis paralysis and confusion; he can be prerceived as unprincipled or disloyal to the values that elevated him to power; and he can be seen as too willing to make trade-offs.
2. And: As Obamas capacity for complex thought can become a liability, so, too, can his cool rationality. Politics often rewards the emotional over the rational. Nuclear deterrence, for example, works only if your enemy thinks you are crazy enough to destroy the world .But because Obama is unfailingly rational, opponents arent afraid of him doing something crazy
Actually I play guitar and keyboard ;)
Obama wouldn’t know a clear thought if it set camp on his lower lip and plucked nose hair with the jaws of life.
You do realize, I hope, that he hesitated because a mentally challenged individual seated a couple rows in (you can see him in part of the clip) was shouting out to him. Don't underestimate this child-king's ability to weave the words for the masses.
Oh my. What a visual. LOL
It’s a good picture of him in prayer, oh wait they left the mirror out of the photo.
I have to agree with much of the analysis, and I think you're spot on with the counter, Cincinatus' Wife.
Even our hypothetical toothless rube, who cares for an animal and makes music, brings more of value to the world than any Marxist in high office.
He can't hold a simple thought in his simple mind.
He has to piece together the marxist tinker toys in his head until he comes up with an approved saying.
But he didn't. According to most, Obama's picks were uninspired and just a regurgitation of the teams' rankings.
Obama is not a "deep thinker". Liberals love to believe they "think" about things far more than conservatives, but this is just to mask their own doubts and contradictions.
Liberals are emotionally driven and do not consider logic. That is why they are so inconsistent and incapable of making a decision based on core principles.
Remember Clinton and how the media kept trying to identify his "core", waiting for every State of the Union speech where he would finally define his "center". He never did because Clinton was a politician more than a liberal and would say/do whatever to be popular.
True liberals cannot keep things simple. Why do you think their healthcare ideas become convoluted, complex bureaucracies that scare everyone else?
It is why our government does not work.....it is a creation of liberalism with overlapping agencies and redundancies for no apparent reason....a reflection of the liberal mind.
“The more of a partisan you are, the more simple-minded you are.
Milbank is as simple-minded as they come, then.
I really like the absurd "poll" question and the choice of answers:
Dana Milbank argues Obama's capacity for complex thought can be an attribute or a liability. Which do you typically perceive it as?
So, readers, there's a controversy here and we'd like your opinion - is the President's awesomeness and wonderfulness and perfectness (praise be upon him) an asset or a liability in this crude and cruel world that is unfit to worship the hallowed ground at his feet? Remember to keep your head bowed while answering this poll question, and then take three steps backwards before pressing the Enter key...
A Communist Manifesto Thumper.
That’s a good one!
"What?s a complex guy to do? Simple. It is important, Haidt says, for the president not to be rational and fully honest.?
See, the old Bill Clinton defense dusted off.
Mussolini was once a committed Socialist who initially opposed Italy's involvement in World War I. Then he got nationalist in his outlook. And that is where he diverges from Obama.
But Mussolini was a control freak who was also a weak and vacillating leader. And after reading about how Mussolini assumed power, I became convinced that only the incompetence of his foes made it possible.
LOL! An apt comparison on many levels, 0 and Neville Chamberlain!
At any rate, 0 has demonstrated very little in terms of intellectual power. His decisions are almost universally bad. That is not the signature of a great thinker.
LOL...I saw who the author was of this article and knew right where it would lead.
We feel the same frustration when we try to define 'a' or 'the.'
Still, the boundless difficulty is the awe we feel at watching an Obama audience that doesn't rest every chin firmly on chest with mouth agape just knowing at least one smart thing has to come out of Obama's mouth...someday...it just has to.
“MAYBE, people would begin to see 0 as a leader, rather than the poseur he has proven himself to be. “
It would also be more credible if he’d work more than six hour days, quit partying so much (while Rome burns) and QUIT TAKING SO MANY BLOODY VACATIONS!
It’s not in his makeup though.
There was a story on a Japanese TV channel several months ago about a guy who lied to his wife about winning the lottery. Wife immediately told all her friends and neighbors, who told all THEIR friends and neighbors -- and suddenly this guy was swamped with huge lines of credit, promotion gifts, all kinds of goodies.
From there it just snowballed. He lived like a king on that lie for several months without being asked to pay a single bill, but he knew it was a lie, and he knew he would eventually get caught. Which, in due course, he was.
Afterwards, he was heard to remark that the sensation he felt when the police arrived was actually "relief". He was relieved that the lie had been exposed and he could stop pretending.
Look at things that way, it's no wonder that Obama is such a glutton for luxurious vacations, exotic expensive cuisine, parties, limousines, etc... all the perks and trimmings of the Presidency, but less excited about the actual work.
He knows he's on borrowed time and that sooner or later he's going to be exposed as the fraud he is.
Honest! The “professors” spoke those words!
I am not worthy to answer.
Oh, that’s great!
And the media finally decided to drop that lie and instead went with, "He's such a great and convincing liar."
Obama’s message is pretty simple, Raise taxes on the rich, rally the base, spend spend spend. Delegate all responsible to underlings. Take no responsiblity for anything. Play golf while he let his underlings do all the work. Obama is very predictable
He define bad decision he agree with as complex, and good decision he disagree with as simple minded
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