Skip to comments.CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obamas original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
This could be one of those rotating stampy thingies where you can change the year by moving to the next number. the "1" would be 'fresher' compared to the '196', due to having been put into effect at the beginning of the year.
Has Barry shown this before?
If not, what took him so long?
Good question. And why spend so much money doing so?
Is this long form thingie equivalent to the BC I have in my safe deposit box, or is this the paperwork you get to replace it?
Nobody gets the ‘original’. We all get copies. The originals are state records.
...how is anyone who’s an agnostic on this subject supposed to be convinced by a piece of paper that the prez coughs up when convenient?
They probably won’t be. If money can be counterfeited, then a BC can certainly be..............
How is anyone supposed to legitimate it? Barry's had months, if need be, to come up with paper, ink, and a typewriter of the appropiate age. So even if someone trustworthy is asked to authenticate the darn thing, seems to me if one just used those criteria, the form could pass muster. Jeez louise, what a mess.
Do you have any details?
Holy crap, Stanley ann’s addy is that Highway where the Obamas or Dunhams never lived. Did they live together for a month or so, maybe?
“Only yesterday the Bamster said there was no point in releasing the LFBC because it wouldn’t change anybodies mind. A day later he does a 180. Either this guy is over medicated or White House polls show he is so far on the losing side of this issue he has to release something.
Trump needs to keep the heat on for the Bamster’s school records. “
Something tells me the White House is worried about what Trump might actually have on Obama.
> Birthers here will be so disappointed.
That’s the nature of a tinfoil conspiracist; you could show them all the proof in the world but they will always find some angle on which to be paranoid over and thus disbelieve.
In this case, prepare for a flood of “well this just proves that its a fake, it took 2 years to make the forgery perfect!” nonsense.
He’s afraid of Trump.
There's no way this doesn't have a political motive. Maybe his polling really is that bad and he wants to take it off the table for 2012. Trump could be getting under his skin.
Is this the "modified hangout" - release the birth certificate and no one will question my buried grades or writings?
Since Hawaii no longer offers the long form even to the child, how did Obama get this? Did he "find it" in his private files?
“And that fact, now supported by evidence, means that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.”
Oh Come on. Just because this birth certificate shows he is NOT a natural born citizen doesn’t mean anything is goign to be done about it.
You talk as if laws matter in the USSA. Obama will stay in power as long as his handlers want him to be in power. The American people are a corrupt lot ruled by emotion and faulty logic.
The House GOP are a cowardly lot who talk good to get elected then cannot be counted on to do anything but go along to get along.
This will do nothing but show what a farce the USSA and Americans have become.
Why does this look like it’s a copy from a book? The left side is a curved page....and why the out of context border? The border has been added on purpose for some reason...
Exactly. I agree with you. He has a lot of ‘splainin to do.
I think Trump must have something else, and Team Obama know it or suspect it. I suspect this is deflection.
No, our ‘leader’ is mostly fund raising, vacationing, and playing golf. So long as he’s campaigning almost full time, he’s a candidate, and candidates should show their bona fides for the office they seek.
The bc doesn’t establish ‘natural born’ so long as “Kenya, East Africa” is on that doc as father’s birthplace, absent documentation of his having become a US citizen prior to 8/4/61. The bc has never been anything but a red herring.
Now, if this is let to stand, any anchor baby can walk into the Oval Office.
But, let’s see the academic transcripts and medical records.
Here is a long form BC issued a day after Obama was born. It doesn't look squeaky clean like Obama's. Wonder why?
Line 20 is a stamp, not typed as in 13
The only weak spot in the document, as presented, is the use of the term “African” for father’s race.
We already know that the approved Federal standard term for documents in 1961 was “Negro”, however, as anyone who was alive in 1961 also knows, Federal standards were of almost no significance to local governments (which is one reason life in 1961 was a lot better).
Perhaps the reason Hawaii stopped issuing long forms a few days ago (until they issued this one) was to prevent this line of attack.
I bet there is not one other LFBC from Hawaii in 1961 that uses the term “African”.
So his mother is an American citizen, his father was an African studying in Hawaii...Obama is not a natural born citizen, correct?
Looks like changes have been made to some of it.
I am enjoying the heck out of this, especially the blow this is to Trump.
First HI says it can't release it then the Governor says he cannot find it then obammy says he needs a ‘waiver’ to release what you and I show to everyone else then HI says they no longer give out the long form and now they do give out the long form and he lets an officer and doctor sit in jail for 6 months and spend $2million dollars to hide this then... ???
Trump is giving a speech right now on FOX saying that he won’t believe that Certificate until his team analyses it...
That is exactly what I was just thinking. It looks like a piece of paper with a square cut out, and the BC was put in the middle, then photocopied.
So the BC that came with me is a copy? I'm old enough that the thing wasn't xeroxed :) I mean all the sigs and info are handwritten on a typewritten form. No autopen, and yes indeedy, I'm dating myself. If that's a copy, how is it different from what the bureaucrats have stuffed in a drawer somewhere? :)
What we see is a photocopy. A Xerox of something.
Probably fake but it won't be submitted to forensic investigation and confirmation. Trump does not have the ability to push it that far
Fake. Block 20 uses different font size for the month and day than for the year.This looks to be the stamp used by registrar's office ...
1) Why is the scan quality so strange?
2) Have you zoomed in to inspect the “typing” - its not typing at all, it’s printing. The words are all ghosted on a white background (zoom in 800%)
3) Why are the O’s in Oahu and Obama different fonts? If this was a real typewriter it would be the same.
If his father was a British subject he’s still unqualified. The SCOTUS, CIA, NSA, etc. should do their job or stand in front of a firing squad.
Because the originals are bound at the end of the year (or month, or whatever).
It looks like it's in a book because it IS in a book.
I wonder if anyone will ask him how he can be a natural born citizen when his father was a british citizen only visiting USA?
I don’t get it. The inner part of the doc is most obviously scanned or copied from a book. Yet the green security background on the flat part of the (inner) scan clearly matches the background of the larger page that it was copied onto. How is that possible?
Interesting from Google
No results found for “6085 kalan”.
My son was born 6 months ago, and we had alot of fun examining it and making sure it is safe in case he want to run for POTUS....but it was messy and chaotic looking, as it should be.
THIS POTUS COLB STINKS!
The bottom of the certificate shows it was stamped April 25 and that it is a true copy or abstract of the record on file. If there was an adoption, that would be not be revealed.
What this does, essentially, is re-define the definition of natural born citizen...now, it is perfectly fine to only have ONE parent as an American citizen, not two.
I’d say this shows clearly that he is a natural born citizen. Born in America. End of story.
And the mother doesn’t live anywhere
Note that on Nordyke’s COLB box 7c says “Honolulu, **Oahu**, but BHO’s box 7c says “Honolulu, **Hawaii**
AND why did you let a good soldier/doctor spend time in jail?
You underestimate the power of the Cheney Wayback Machine, my naive friend
IF this was AFter Obama was bor, wouldn’t her serial number be higher than Obamas 41?
What is more interesting to me is what’s not shown in the left hand margin.That's what I was thinking about too ... also, the entire form is not reproduced here: for instance, usually the 'form number' is shown on the bottom margin ... as well as the revision date ...
Yep. And what’s interesting is that Trump is on now talking about it and he says he’s honored that he was able to accomplish this because even the Clintons couldn’t get him to release the thing.
Nordyke born on 5th, other dates: one on 7th and all others on 11th.
It’s a fake....
Drudges copy ....scroll to the very bottom of that page and read what it says. It says it’s a copy or abstract!
LFBC? Or a Certified Copy of an Original Record kept by the State in a book of original vital records? Next question, is the child, of an American citizen and a foreigner, a natural born American citizen or an American citizen by default? Is it natural for a child to be denied the citizenship of one parent’s homeland over the other? What is natural? And will Mr. Trump talk about whether it is constitutional to elect a child born to a foreign parent as the president of our nation? Is it natural for a foreigner to be the parent of a natural born American? Or is it natural for that child to be a dual born citizen and a native citizen by default of one parental’s citizenship nation or the other?
This was definately a rope a dope issue. Now he won’t have to show any other records because he will be able to say “look I showed them my birth certificate and they still didn’t believe me. Why should I show anything else.”. He will be getting lots of sympathy from the MSM. They will be talking about what fools the birthers were and trying to associate them with all conservatives and the Teaparty.
I would imagine that if this is a forgery, it was done by the very best and is very hard to detect. I would focus on the issue of why it wasn’t released sooner. Anything he releases at this point is irredeemably tarnished in my eyes.