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CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

(CNN) The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.


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To: DCBryan1

Has anyone researched this “David A. Sinclair” that was the attending physician? Thats not the same person that everyone was postulating delivered Obama. Is he a “real” doctor?? And did he practice at that hospital?? Is he possibly still alive??


301 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:04 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: gopher300

I am a dirty rotten POS for not citing the author of that data. I didn’t write it.

Every bit of that was from Leo Donofrio.


302 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:04 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: gopher300

Jefferson born 1743 and Jackson born in 1767 are both covered by the “grandfather clause”.

Those parents of Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson and Hoover were all known or believed to be US citizens at the time the future Presidents were born. Arthur’s father may not have been naturalized at Arthur’s birth, and there is an appearance of an attempt to cover up that fact by Arthur.

The Judge, Horace Gray, who made the questionable assertions as to NBC in Wong Kim Ark was appointed in 1881 by Arthur.


303 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:04 AM PDT by bvw
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To: mewzilla

Look, I was born in North Carolina in 1964, and my birth certificate was hand written (not typed). It differs from state to state.


304 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:08 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Fractal Trader
I agree. I'm not a birther; I'm not well-versed in this particular issue, but I am a web designer, and this looks like a wicked 'shopped doc to me.

I'm looking at this PDF.

1. It's obviously a composite of two separate images . . . the stuff from the book, and a background that was made to match the background from the book. So right off the bat it's weird.

2. The text in caps looks like it was cut & pasted into this doc, not added in as vector fonts, because there's a whitish shroud around each letter. If this was the actual text typed into the paper, you'd see it in stark contrast to the background.

3. If this was copied out of a book, as the image would have you believe, I think there'd be more of a "wave" across the breadth of the page, like when you make a scan or a copy of a page from a book.

Granted, I'm looking at this on the web and not looking at an actual physical copy of it, but this sucker looks a bit questionable to me.

305 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:15 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: DCBryan1
What is the doctor's last name? Anybody?

Perhaps I can check it out.

306 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: SW6906
Here is a long form BC issued a day after Obama was born. It doesn't look squeaky clean like Obama's. Wonder why?

Because BO's was issued Monday. Of this week. Look at the Registrar's date stamp at the bottom.

307 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:15 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: savedbygrace

Really? Can you provide proof?

Alexander Hamilton’s proposal said: “No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States”

Lynch v. Clarke clearly gives “natural born citizen” status to all people who have citizenship at birth, and that decision has widely been quoted by SCOTUS.


308 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:15 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: stockpirate; bvw

No it isn’t the same. It lists the hospital and the attendant at birth.


309 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: eraser2005

Show me a link to the law established by SCOTUS that defines a ‘natural born citizen’ to be a child born of only ONE citizen parent, as it applies to eligibility for the office of President.

And if you side Dred Scott v Sandford, that decision only applies to anyone born within the U.S. as being defined as a ‘native’ born citizen. That doesn’t make them eligible to be President.

Same applies for United States vs Wong Kim Ark.

So show me the link that says any person born in the U.S. is eligible to be President.


310 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:28 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: ConservativeDude

You gotta give Trump credit. He forced Obama’s hand. He got results. Thanks to the other cowards in the Republican party, Obama has had two years to make this forgery bulletproof.

Maybe now we can get to the real issue of the father not being American.

This Birth Certificate business has been an intentional distraction.


311 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:51 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not what the federal regs. say:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/CDCBirthCertificateRequirements.pdf


312 posted on 04/27/2011 7:13:00 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Just google Nordyke birth certificate Hawaii under images and you will get plenty of links. The Nordyke twins’ BCs have been available for more than two years.


313 posted on 04/27/2011 7:13:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: NJ_Tom
Question: Why does the file header say “Adobe”?

Because it was released as an ADOBE PDF file. PDF = Portable Document Format.

314 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:05 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Coyotehockey

“You are aware of their divorce papers, aren’t you?”

Can’t say that I am - but WHEN did they (supposedly) get married, and is there documentation of it?


315 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:15 AM PDT by BB62
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To: stockpirate

Mine says Certificate of Live Birth also. What does yours say?


316 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:19 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: KarlInOhio; All
So what you're saying is Hawaii made an exception to it's policy (or law) in place since 2001? Some pigs are more equal than others.

With this finally out, will the obstructionist Democrats admit eligibility bills are not about Obama and let them pass so jerks like Obama can't play games and this nonsense doesn't bother us ever again with a future candidate?

317 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Eagle of Liberty
Why is the O in Oahu floating like a balloon above the line, but not in OBAMA?
I'm not making any judgments about the veracity of this document, but the vertical shifting of upper-case letters is entirely typical of typewritten documents.

On most typewriters, each upper- and lower-case letter is on the same stem. To type an upper-case letter, the entire mechanism shifts up. If the typist presses the key before the mechanism has fully moved, you get an upper-case letter that is vertically shifted.

318 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:38 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Beckwith

It’s not a negative like the twins??? It isn’t original.


319 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:03 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
2. The text in caps looks like it was cut & pasted into this doc, not added in as vector fonts, because there's a whitish shroud around each letter.
Open the doc in a PDF editor (there are freeware versions out there).

That pattern is a water mark; the algorithm avoids 'printing through' the actual letters.

320 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:27 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

To be a “Natural Born” citizen of the United States requires that one be born in the United States of parents (plural) who are themselves citizens of the United States.

The fourteenth amendment does not address “natural born” citizenship at all and thus does not affect the Constitutional requirement that one be a Natural Born citizen of the United States in order to hold the office of President of the United States at all!

Barrack Hussein Obama II knows all of this and there lies the answer to your other questions.


321 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:32 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: mquinn

This might actually be a fake, open up the PDF and you’ll immediately see white haloing around the text, a scanned document shouldn’t look that way because the ink would a) be placed atop the security-background paper, and b) the bleeding of the ink likely would have a blending effect where the ink’s edge is. (There weren’t multi-hundred DPI inkjet printers back then.)


322 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Can’t make out the attendants signature clearly.

It looks like David A. Smilan or something.


323 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:29 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: tirednvirginia
"Birthers here will be so disappointed."

If this is legit, it proves that Obama's father was a foreign national and NOT a US Citizen.

324 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:34 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: eraser2005
Please... it shows he was born in Hawaii, which means he IS a natural born citizen. Period. End of the story.

The father has to be a US Citizen for a person to be a Natural Born Citizen. Clearly Kenya doesn't qualify.

325 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BB62

Here is are the divorce papers. I don’t know when they were married.

http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf


326 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:36 AM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: DCBryan1

If it shows anybody other than Soetero as his father, then it is a fake. When a child is adopted, birth certificates are changed to place the adoptive parents on the BC. We adopted our grandson, and I am now listed as his birth mother, my husband is his father, same date, same hospital same everything else. The old BC is now destroyed. Any future BCs will be listing me, I don’t care how hard you jump up and down. The only thing that might make you scratch your head in wonder is that I was 46 when he was born.


327 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:12 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: mnehring

Good grief


328 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:15 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: _Jim

What do those pencil notations indicate?

References to the other “ original vital records “ that on July 2009
Chiyome Fukino said Hawaii maintained on file ?
Records..plural.
Today’s flop sweat exercise from Barry
raises even more questions.
Why now and not back when the first military member asked ?
Which IIRC was Major Stefan Cook .
What are the other “ vital records “ maintained on file ?

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained
on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health ...”

Donald Trump was able to do what numerous court cases
have been unable to do.
I think this strengthens Trump and makes Barry look even weaker and desperate.
They hope doing this preempts calls for Barry to release all his other records.


329 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:27 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: smokingfrog

I would guess David A. Sinclair


330 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:31 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: smokingfrog

Looks like Sinclair to me.


331 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:44 AM PDT by rangerwife (Proud wife of a Purple Heart Recipient)
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To: bigdaddy45
Look, I was born in North Carolina in 1964, and my birth certificate was hand written (not typed). It differs from state to state.

I understand that. Is a COLB the same thing as a BC?

332 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
1. It's obviously a composite of two separate images . . . the stuff from the book, and a background that was made to match the background from the book. So right off the bat it's weird.

Have you ever gotten a copy of a long form birth certificate? I mean in the past 10 years or so? They photo copy (or perhaps print from a scanned image) the original record onto colored, tamper resistant, paper, not just white copier paper. There is nothing weird about it, it would be weird if they had done something else.

333 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:00 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Plutarch

Why didn’t he just show the one he (supposedly) wrote about?


334 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:08 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Eagle of Liberty
Another Hawaii COLB for comparison:


335 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:17 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("You're a different kind of special..........")
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
2) Have you zoomed in to inspect the “typing” - its not typing at all, it’s printing. The words are all ghosted on a white background (zoom in 800%)

That looks like unsharp masking was applied to the image. If you look at the parts of the image which are less sharp to begin with, especially the document number 61 10641, you'll see less of an artifact. Many digital cameras and scanners do this type of sharpening automatically unless you turn it off.

Unlike the Certification of Live Birth released in 2008, I don't see a lot of JPEG artifacts like two dimensional "ringing" at sharp boundaries. They didn't do as much data compression on this image.

336 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:24 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: kabar

Here are my thoughts, ‘gut reaction’ using my ‘mom skills.’

He FINALLY had the Long Form??? (but it is still titled ‘Certification of Live Birth’) released. It was, per the stamp, done this Monday 4/25/11. Then he calls a quickie Podium Talk (no questions per the usual Regime MO) and he speaks about the ‘topic’ for the first few seconds...then goes off into some weird campaign spin whine mode, then goes back to the BC for a few words.

Why wouldn’t he use the time to say ‘my parents were young; my mom was preparing to go to college, daddy BHO was in college; my parents were poor; we lived at...this address; okay...this is the Hospital I was born at; this is the Doctor who delivered me...this is...’

Sorry...but to me, this is fanning the story more...not putting it to rest. Dunham/Soetaro/Obama just VALIDATED there are still questions.


337 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:31 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just call me SOME WOMAN with an email account.)
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To: mewzilla

Yes, a COLB is a BC. Same thing.


338 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:48 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: PghBaldy

“WHY did he prolong this for 2 years?”

It certainly doesn’t take that long to buy a forged one. He prolonged it because 1) he doesnt need to explain himself to us lowly peons, 2) he was holding out for 2012 and was going to use this to undercut the GOP candidate.


339 posted on 04/27/2011 7:18:51 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DCBryan1

I still want to know why BHO Sr.’s race is listed as “African”. If put in there in 1961, I wouldn’t think that that is a term that would be used (”negro” or something similar would be more likely). If put in there recently, then why not “African-American” (yes, I know he was never American, but that’s the PC way)?


340 posted on 04/27/2011 7:19:42 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: mewzilla

Some hospitals give a ‘suitable-for-framing’ diploma type birth certificate to the proud parents, and an ‘official’ birth certificate form for the state records.


341 posted on 04/27/2011 7:20:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Mitt Romney: The Harold Stassen of the 21st century........)
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To: visually_augmented

It doesn’t seem to be much in the overall scheme of things, but perhaps that’s what he wanted to hide. The father didn’t acknowledge him, wasn’t there to sign.


342 posted on 04/27/2011 7:20:16 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Fawn
I want to know why the above BC in this thread has a serial number that is 61 10637 who was born a day AFTER OBAMA and Obamas serial number is 61 10641?
Shouldn't it be the other way around??


Not necessarily. It depends on the precise time when each 'document' was filed/filled out and officially processed (typed).
343 posted on 04/27/2011 7:20:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: visually_augmented
"I would guess David A. Sinclair"

Who is the father of......Larry Sinclair. Mwuahahahaha....

344 posted on 04/27/2011 7:20:44 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Grammy

That is not true. My husband (who is adopted) had a COLB that stated his adoptive parents as Mother and Father. However, the original Long form BC, which we were able to get released by the court, stated the names of his natural mother and father. They seal the original but they do not destroy it.


345 posted on 04/27/2011 7:20:45 AM PDT by TN4Bush
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To: Bigun

YOu know all that - and I know all that... but Joe & Darlene Six-pack in Trailerpark USA don’t. And there are a lot of them. And that is a problem.


346 posted on 04/27/2011 7:21:16 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: WestCoastGal

you can’t stand to listn to who


347 posted on 04/27/2011 7:21:22 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Coyotehockey

” I don’t know when they were married. “

Neither does Barry.
Dreams From My Father , page 22

” In fact , how and when the marriage occurred , remains a bit murky ,
a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore.
There’s no record of a real wedding...”


348 posted on 04/27/2011 7:22:06 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Fawn

he wrote in his book that he found his original in his bible so why the need to get a dif one from hawaii. this is just a copy of something


349 posted on 04/27/2011 7:22:24 AM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

“Finally! This whole nonsense has come to an end!”

You funny.

You seem disappointed. Why? Birthers scored a big victory today. And it ain’t over.


350 posted on 04/27/2011 7:22:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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