Skip to comments.CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obamas original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Copier paper with green hashes is even easier to produce that result. Put book (white paper, no hashes) on copier. Make copy using paper with green hashes.
This is not game, set, match. The BC# and “date filed” are still not compatible. There is still no note of the 2006 amendment that the HDOH indirectly confirmed was made to the birth record. There is no raised seal.
This photocopy could have been made on a scanner right here in my house from a photoshopped printout. There is a photo of it at http://twitpic.com/4q47pm and there are no cross-hatches so we know there was digital manipulation of the image. What other digital manipulation might there have been? Might the whole thing have been a Photoshop? The photo doesn’t show either the registrar’s signature or a seal and the PDF shows no raised seal so this is not a certified copy at all.
The whole thing needs to be taken in context with all his other records too: the forged draft registration, the 3 breaches of his passport file - specifically enabled by someone disabling the security protocols at the necessary times, the SSN (issued from CT where neither he nor his parents have ever lived) that Obama used on his latest tax return showing up on the SSN Verification website as never having been issued to Obama, the COLB that the HDOH indirectly confirmed in 2 ways as a forgery (and both of those ways are still true of this supposed long-form as well).
We’ve been expecting him to come forward with a forged long-form for some time now. Abercrombie seems to have prepared the way with his boastful comments at Christmas time but then he backed off when the possibility of state eligibility bills requiring the embedded transaction logs came up; and it seems he needed to get rid of his HDOH director, Neal Palafox too. Needed to get this Loretta Fuddy who is willing to break every law in the book.
What showed up today is totally consistent with what we expected. The only way to know whether we have the real story or whether he is telling the truth is by looking at those embedded transaction logs.
Okay...so what gives with the fake green background that’s been added in?
Before we all go completely spastic here, we should all remember that it was the CLINTONS who were the original birthers.
Obama put a guy IN MILITARY PRISON when he asked for this proof. Are they going to release and reinstate him now?
More BS. “Got nothin’”? From a freeper for over ten years? There is EVERYTHING against this poser, but, if he was never eligible and never properly vetted, it all starts there.
May God give us strength.
It seems that the same person wrote the date of the mothers’ signatures “8-7-61”. It certainly was not written by the mother of the twins.
Perhaps it was written by a hospital clerk who only worked several days a week, going from room to room to collect the signatures as part of the filing process. The blank forms could have been attached to charts when the mothers entered the labor/delivery process. The births are less than 24 hours apart. I don’t attach any significance to the lack of continuity of these births.
Who were babies 10639 and 10640? Will we see them on reality tv someday?
because i am nuts i suppose
and why are you posting to reemphasize my distraction to off topics. thanks
what can i say i am ADHD
I’m looking to have this debunked too. Please if someone can come up with a legitimate reason for the PDF to be a layered file, I want to know it.
“Oh, for crying out loud, does that mean Im not a natural-born citizen,
Well, in 1844 you would have been eligible, but in 2008 a new legal principle was discovered - ignore the law and worship Vattel.
From 1844 - a little before Obama’s birth -
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.
6. Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever were the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen.
About a million other people are having the exact same campaign idea this morning. The Swiftboaters showed the way. To this day, many people doubt the facts raised by the Swiftboaters—yet they succeeded.
In this case, No One can doubt the facts. IF this newest document proves legitimate, it is a railroad spike in Obama’s political coffin. The commercials would be devastating. They’re just too easy to write and understand. Obama golfed while honorable careers and entire families were laid waste. All he had to do was release a scrap of paper, but he couldn’t be bothered. He comes off looking like an inhuman monster. Sure, a few Obots will continue to ‘believe’. But the average, normal American will want to throw up.
Mark today on your calendar. If this newest COLB is the real deal, this is the day Obama’s ‘12 aspirations died.
"THE" is mispelled as "TXE." Only truly odd thing I see so far. And again, probably nothing...
Typos on an official document that would have been printed like that?
Um, because it is. The Nordyke form is from 1966, probably an old ditto/Xerox machine. Technology has improved quite a bit over the years, so of course Barry's looks new and fresh in comparison. In 1966, both the Director of Health and the Registrar General signed copies that were sent out. In 2011, apparently just the State Registrar signs it. Sometimes it just is what it is and there is no grand conspiracy.
Wait a minute... On the Nordyke form, it was signed by the 'Registrar General'. Barry's is signed by the 'State Registrar'. STOP THE PRESSES, its an obvious fake!! /sarc
Tim Adams was a joker who infiltrated a racist group and made up this story to see what people's reactions would be. He styles himself as a sort of "gonzo" journalist. I figured this out after viewing his Youtube videos, but people will just latch on to what they want to believe is true.
There is a tremendous amount of valid criticism of this president. This is bogus and makes us look foolish. And look...exactly what we knew would happen if he released it. It is a forgery call! There you go. With all we have to criticize him on.....this is what we are talking about.
Yes, but I only had ONE alien parent, my father, and when he was born in 1939, his country, the Philippines, was an American territory.
He was probably told right after saying he would search not to even try.
Absolutely. Anything that doesn’t fit the birther narrative is a forgery. Duh! Where have you been? ;p
“””THE” is mispelled as “TXE.” Only truly odd thing I see so far. And again, probably nothing...”
Why is the type bold on the “of txe” part of the certification, and not on the rest of the letters?
(Skeptics would argue it’s to avoid legal liability for the certification if the full certification is not proper...)
Just in case everyone’s busy and you didn’t get an answer - no, you are not a NBC. Born on soil, to parents who are citizens at the time of the child’s birth. They can be naturalized but have to be citizens.
Good catch. It does have the seal. Not that easy to see on a computer image. Thanks!
Stop mocking de Vattel. He invented Velveeta. It’s good stuff. Goes great with jalapenos. Yum.
Could you address this:
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
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§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
See my post #868.
There is no typo. I actually says THE but there appears to have been some grit or dust on the stamp lying across part of the H that makes it appears as an X.
There is so much we could hit Obama with just pictures
the pic with him not having hand over heart, bowing,
vacationing while tragedies abound, the pic of him scared with the wrestlers and clinging to Michelle, the list goes on and on.
He is gay Obama
“Is it me, or does Stanley Anns and the Docs signatures look like the same persons - just using different pens?”
Blame good American schools and the Palmer Method for that.
I guess you have never read the Constitution.
Most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. Sorry you can’t.
Why is her name listed as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?? Were they married?
And why is her name printed as Stanley Ann Dunham, but her “signature” is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?
How do we find marriage records/name change records from Hawaii in 1961?
A SCANNED PDF DOES NOT HAVE CLIPPING MASKS. PERIOD.
Clipping mask information is only generated by a program like Illustrator or Photoshop and is often retained as part of the file when rendered in PDF.
That’s been my experience as well... and yet the file I downloaded has clipping masks and layers.
This must be opened in Illustrator though. It won’t work if you try in Photoshop.
BTW... I anticipate they’ll figure this out quickly and update the PDF to compress it as a single layer.
I’ve downloaded the file though and have the PDF on my system.
Lies? I note again that you don't provide specifics (e.g. names, dates, documents, etc.) I'll do it for you.
Here is what we know: Chester Arthur's father immigrated in 1818 or 1819. Arthur's "lie" (more likely an understandable mistake) was to say that he immigrated in 1814. Arthur said that his father was 33 at the time of his birth while he was actually 40.
Whether it was 1814 or the real date of 1818 or 1819 doesn't make any difference to the question of naturalization. Both periods (1814 or 1819) would offer plenty of time for a 33 year old man to become naturalized before Chester's birth in 1829. Here is a direct link to an article from 1880.
Man this is scary I mean really really scary
“Birthers here will be so disappointed.”
Actually, I am relieved. I just wanted the evidence that every other recent President has been willing to show. His unwillingness to provide it disturbed me.
Why he took two years is anybody’s guess - but I am relieved he finally did what he should have done the first time he was asked.
Whoa! Looks like they copied it, Photoshopped it and filled in the blanks? They had the Doctor's name from other births. Can't wait for the experts that evaluated the original fake sound off on this one. . .
You missed the point. No disrespect meant. Probably my inability to articulate mine.
Thank you. A voice of reason.
It makes me cringe to know that many non-FReepers are reading these posts and laughing their butts off at some of the ignorance, delusion, and rabid conspiracy. I’m embarrassed for those who don’t have the sense to be so for themselves.
3 times now, when I have pressed F5 to refresh, I got timed out. The 3rd time I noticed “trying to connect to bryankeithnixon.com/?p=103.
Anyone else having trouble refreshing?
That statute was adopted as Title 8 of the US Code as currently published by the US Government reflects the laws passed by Congress as of Feb.1, 2010.
“Shouldn’t it be the other way around??”
Depends on where it was in the stack when the clerk got around to entering it in the book.
That was for me, as I have NO skills on posting pics, documents and such, even though many a FRiendly Freeper has tried to give me instructions : /
No confusion intended.
As for moving the goal posts, the Constitution does not require that he have certain college records or whatever. While I would love to see passports and grades and etc., they would not constitutionally affect his legitimacy.
I wanted to see the Constitution followed. There were serious questions as to whether he was a natural born citizen.