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Open the Birth Certificate in Photoshop and See the Forgery
vanity | 4/27/11 | zeebee

Posted on 04/27/2011 10:07:40 AM PDT by zeebee

This is very strange:



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; naturalborncitizen
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Sorry for the vanity but this is too odd to get buried in all the BC threads.
1 posted on 04/27/2011 10:07:42 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee
Oh yea, the image:


2 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:12 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee

Post it so we can see exactly what you are looking at.:)
I really want to see...


3 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: zeebee

Would somebody explain what I’m supposed to see, and how it is a forgery? I keep reading posts about opening it in Adobe Illustrator, but nobody explains what exactly about doing that means it is a fake. I don’t believe it is real, but where is the proof?


4 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:53 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: zeebee
COLBHEAP
5 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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To: zeebee

OMG! I see it! If you look closely, you can seethe watermark that says, “YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!”


6 posted on 04/27/2011 10:10:53 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: zeebee

I opened it in Inkscape which is a vector/svg program.

I un-grouped the image and can move text and signature blocks around.

When I move them the white imprint is left on the green security paper.

I don’t use PDF files so not sure what to make of this.


7 posted on 04/27/2011 10:11:07 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Carling

Who cares it is fun and aggrivates the media.


8 posted on 04/27/2011 10:11:47 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: zeebee

I have the same concerns I had with the Polarik(sp?) analysis. Many of the things some are looking at, such as image artifacts, etc are not the best to use and can actually lead you to a false conclusion when you are dealing with an image of an image. In this case, this is supposedly a copy of a document > scanned > uploaded. That is three layers of ‘processing’ through computer programs that can add in these artifacts or other oddities. Those kind of ‘proofs’ only really work on an original, not a copy of a copy of a copy.

If you want to debunk this, focus on factual issues or things like the infamous “Buckhead” discovery regarding fonts that aren’t correct (non existent for the time, etc).

Playing around in Photoshop or Illustrator only reveal oddities that may have been put there though the multiple scanning and copying processes.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 10:12:11 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: zeebee

That is odd.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 10:12:16 AM PDT by La Lydia ("California: When the parasites outnumber the hosts, it's all over.")
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To: zeebee

If it’s a fake, then it either has to be NOT one of the certificates sent to the White House by Loretta J Fuddy, Director of the Hawaii Health Department, OR the letter from Loretta J Fuddy has to be a forgery as well.


11 posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:11 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: zeebee

Good find. This is the version that needs to be used as to simple show all the data that Obama wants to be redacted.


12 posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:24 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton (Texan Pride)
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To: Smokeyblue

Depending on the software used in the scan, it could have an image to text program that is used for filing. Basically, it scans the document and pulls out everything it recognizes as text and adds it as a separate layer to the scanned document can be content searched. Pretty common.


13 posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: zeebee

Those white margins are contrast drop-out artifacts caused by the scanner that placed the image online when it created the jpeg image..

If you have a similar certificate with background markings or perhaps a check with a background, scan it and then open your scanned image in Photoshop. It will show the same thing.


14 posted on 04/27/2011 10:14:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If every person were like Sarah Palin, this world would be a peaceful, beautiful world to live in.)
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To: marstegreg
I think we should be seeing is a flattened image with no layers, but when a layer or layers are pealed away, the words disappear, except for the signatures on another layer.

Photoshop experts should weigh in on this in due time.

15 posted on 04/27/2011 10:15:58 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LibertyJihad

HA! Thanks, that was great.


16 posted on 04/27/2011 10:16:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Jeff Winston
If it’s a fake, then it either has to be NOT one of the certificates sent to the White House by Loretta J Fuddy, Director of the Hawaii Health Department, OR the letter from Loretta J Fuddy has to be a forgery as well.

Look inside the URL: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate and notice the words "-long-form-".

Then look at the PDF itself. It says "Certificate of Live Birth" COLB - NOT "BIRTH CERTIFICATE"

'Mike Wallace' Fake Document ALERT and MEDIA FAKEOUT ALERT!

17 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:06 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: screaminsunshine

Ditto. Plus, it’s distracting Obama; he can’t do his job, wahhh.


18 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:17 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: zeebee

Your image is EXACTLY what I got when I opened it in Inkscape.

Same bits of black scrap text left behind.


19 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:20 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Red Steel

I can’t figure out why the numbers are out of sequence with others born at that time.


20 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:20 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: zeebee

In Before Dan Rather Sweeps The COLB Under The Rug.


21 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:59 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama.....a perfect example of why you can't trust someone that won't look you in the eye)
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To: mnehring
"Playing around in Photoshop or Illustrator only reveal oddities that may have been put there though the multiple scanning and copying processes."

Sometimes. Here though the theory is it's only been compressed twice. Once by the original digitization, then again by whatever setting the pdf converter/printer had.

As someone who makes their living using graphic applications, I find most of these "fake doc" threads humorously entertaining......

22 posted on 04/27/2011 10:19:12 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: zeebee

So, what does this image tell us? I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to “white-out” that much information; info that shouldn’t need removal.

Is it that the remaining “black-ink” items were on an original layer and the white data was overlayed to complete the document?

Could this have happened at HI DHS?


23 posted on 04/27/2011 10:19:23 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: sr4402
It's a PDF, not a PICTURE FOLKS. This is a WHITE HOUSE MEDIA FAKEOUT.

Alert all your friends. You saw it on FreeRepublic FIRST!

24 posted on 04/27/2011 10:20:11 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
Then look at the PDF itself. It says "Certificate of Live Birth" COLB - NOT "BIRTH CERTIFICATE"

That's the official name for a birth certificate.

25 posted on 04/27/2011 10:20:19 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: zeebee

Unless someone sent you an electronic file with a .psd extension that is supposedly Obama’s birth certificate, all this talk about layers is nonsense.


26 posted on 04/27/2011 10:21:06 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Nothing changes if nothing changes.)
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To: zeebee
Go look at the document on the White House website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

What is this supposed to be? What is with the curled page set on top of another page. That is clearly what was done. Yet all the green security paper pattern lines up? This doesn't even make sense.

How is it that the birth certificate curls into the page? And there is a stamp and signature at the bottom. What? What did Alvan T. Onaka actually sign?

This thing is such a crock it is disorienting in trying to describe it because it is so preposterous.

Also, right click and look at document properties. The pdf file was created at 12:09PM today. Not sure what that means.

The only thing I can come up with, assuming this is real, is that someone in Hawaii scanned the original, then photoshopped it onto a bigger piece of green security paper makin sure the pattern lined up, printed that creation, stamped it and had Onaka sign it, scanned that piece of paper and email the scanned image to the White House. That is the only way I can imagine the document provided could be created.

27 posted on 04/27/2011 10:21:54 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: screaminsunshine

Sometimes I wish there were a thumbs up button to push.


28 posted on 04/27/2011 10:24:48 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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To: zeebee

When I un-group the PDF file I get 7 distinct boxes that I can move around.

Five contain text the other two boxes that appear blank but when I put a black square behind them the show speckled white blobs.


29 posted on 04/27/2011 10:25:13 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: TennesseeGirl

Plus, it’s distracting Obama; he can’t do his job, wahhh.

... and it is screwing with his putting !


30 posted on 04/27/2011 10:25:39 AM PDT by sawmill trash
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To: Jeff Winston
That's the official name for a birth certificate.

No, it's not. That just a document that says there is a document.

Not only that, but the PDF is a Fill in the Blank Document.

We've CAUGHT A BADLY DONE WHITE HOUSE SCAM!

31 posted on 04/27/2011 10:25:44 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: zeebee

So, he produced a fake birth certificate that shows his father was NOT an American and therefore he’s not a natural born citizen?

Well, that’s brilliant.


32 posted on 04/27/2011 10:30:51 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: sr4402

“Then look at the PDF itself. It says ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ COLB - NOT ‘BIRTH CERTIFICATE’”

You, sir, are an ignoramous.


33 posted on 04/27/2011 10:39:50 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: MichiganConservative

“his father was NOT an American and therefore he’s not a natural born citizen”

Does not follow.


34 posted on 04/27/2011 10:40:44 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: mnehring; Carling

What these people are saying is if you scan a piece of paper into Adobe Acrobat, to create a pdf from the image, it will create a single image, kind of like a polaroid photograph.

Here, Obama claimed this is a scan of his long form. Yet when you open it in Illustrator or Photoshop, or Preflight it on Acrobat Pro, you see this is a layered image.

When you “Photoshop” an image, you lay down a base layer, Kind of like a single polaroid. When you add stuff to it, it’s like taking a snippet of another photo and laying it on top of the polaroid. The polaroid is still underneath. After you are done altering the image, what you have is a digital version of a polaroid photo with a bunch of snippets taped on top of it. You can later remove a snippet, hide it, or alter it alone, without altering the rest of the image.

When you open the file in a program, it will show this, and this BC image does. Amazingly amatuerish, and almost would reek of setting up some type of ambush, if it wasn’t so stupid.

What is signifigant here is that somebody scanned Obama’s Long form, took some snippets from it, and created a new BC from them, and it is easy to see this, digitally. When you open the file in the image editor, you can actually move the snippets around to different places, and re-edit it. If this was simply a scanned image, with a single layer, that wouldn’t be possible.

Obama may still be hiding some piece of information on the long form. He pulled the minimum needed to create this one, and excluded whatever embarrasses him. Of this is a phoney, but it would seem they’d get somebody smarter to do a phoney BC.

Or, some genius might have just transfered the long-form’s data to a photoshoped image en toto, to make it all look better, but why he would do that, instead of just releasing a simple unaltered scan of the original is beyond me.

As with everything Obama, it all is just puzzling.


35 posted on 04/27/2011 10:47:53 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (www.anonymousconservative.com - see the evolutionary origin of Liberalism and its purpose in nature)
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To: Tublecane

His father was not an american citizen when he was born. He is not a natural born citizen, according to the laws in place at the time.

He is inelegible. But, please, continue with the nuttery about layers and kerning, etc. It is so much distraction from the fact that America is dead and the idea of a “nation of laws” is a myth.


36 posted on 04/27/2011 10:50:41 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: Tublecane

more details: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292205


37 posted on 04/27/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: MichiganConservative

“His father was not an american citizen when he was born.”

How do you know? Do you honestly think Obama Sr is his father?


38 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LibertyJihad

LOL.

My only ? is why it took him so long unless this was a trick played to accomplish exactly what it did.


39 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:24 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Smokeyblue

One cannot ungroup or de layer an image that was not doctored digitally.

This has been digitally manipulated to some extent.


40 posted on 04/27/2011 10:56:21 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: AppyPappy
Do you honestly think Obama Sr is his father?

Yes. Who do you think sired him?

41 posted on 04/27/2011 10:57:41 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: LibertyJihad

Why are you on the thread? No one cares what you think.


42 posted on 04/27/2011 10:58:28 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Tublecane
You, sir, are an ignoramous.

Name calling is not allowed on FreeRepublic.

43 posted on 04/27/2011 10:59:01 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: zeebee

Why does the capital “M” in ‘7:24 P.M.’ look so much smaller than all the other cap M’s in the image?


44 posted on 04/27/2011 11:00:05 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: AnonymousConservative
Thank you for the explanation! I'm not knowledgeable on imaging, so I had no idea what I was supposed to be outraged about.
45 posted on 04/27/2011 11:06:23 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: zeebee

I opened the PDF linked from the White House in GIMP as layers and it only shows one single graphics layer, as is. GIMP is a layer based graphics editor just like Photoshop with all the same features. I use it now instead of Photoshop, which I have on another PC. How are you getting this?


46 posted on 04/27/2011 11:08:23 AM PDT by Ikaros
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To: AnonymousConservative

BookMark


47 posted on 04/27/2011 11:12:00 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: zeebee

You get the same result if you open the pdf in Acrobat Pro, select document properties, select deleted and cropped.Then apply.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 11:18:36 AM PDT by MilleniumBug (Por favor, put the oranges down and step away from the cell phone.)
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To: sr4402

“CertifiCATION of” ... is info from “CertifiCATE of”
Different states use different wording.
The “Birth Certificate” wording is used for some states.
See Nordyke(sp) BCs. Theirs is COLB (..CATE). Obamas’ previous skam was COLB (..CATION).


49 posted on 04/27/2011 11:24:24 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: NoLibZone
One cannot ungroup or de layer an image that was not doctored digitally.

This has been digitally manipulated to some extent.


Tell that to the so-called Adobe "experts" that have posted in this thread.
50 posted on 04/27/2011 11:26:12 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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