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Sorry for the vanity but this is too odd to get buried in all the BC threads.
1 posted on 04/27/2011 10:07:42 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee
Oh yea, the image:


2 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:12 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee

Post it so we can see exactly what you are looking at.:)
I really want to see...


3 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: zeebee

Would somebody explain what I’m supposed to see, and how it is a forgery? I keep reading posts about opening it in Adobe Illustrator, but nobody explains what exactly about doing that means it is a fake. I don’t believe it is real, but where is the proof?


4 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:53 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: zeebee
COLBHEAP
5 posted on 04/27/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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To: zeebee

OMG! I see it! If you look closely, you can seethe watermark that says, “YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!”


6 posted on 04/27/2011 10:10:53 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: zeebee

I opened it in Inkscape which is a vector/svg program.

I un-grouped the image and can move text and signature blocks around.

When I move them the white imprint is left on the green security paper.

I don’t use PDF files so not sure what to make of this.


7 posted on 04/27/2011 10:11:07 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: zeebee

I have the same concerns I had with the Polarik(sp?) analysis. Many of the things some are looking at, such as image artifacts, etc are not the best to use and can actually lead you to a false conclusion when you are dealing with an image of an image. In this case, this is supposedly a copy of a document > scanned > uploaded. That is three layers of ‘processing’ through computer programs that can add in these artifacts or other oddities. Those kind of ‘proofs’ only really work on an original, not a copy of a copy of a copy.

If you want to debunk this, focus on factual issues or things like the infamous “Buckhead” discovery regarding fonts that aren’t correct (non existent for the time, etc).

Playing around in Photoshop or Illustrator only reveal oddities that may have been put there though the multiple scanning and copying processes.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 10:12:11 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: zeebee

That is odd.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 10:12:16 AM PDT by La Lydia ("California: When the parasites outnumber the hosts, it's all over.")
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To: zeebee

If it’s a fake, then it either has to be NOT one of the certificates sent to the White House by Loretta J Fuddy, Director of the Hawaii Health Department, OR the letter from Loretta J Fuddy has to be a forgery as well.


11 posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:11 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: zeebee

Those white margins are contrast drop-out artifacts caused by the scanner that placed the image online when it created the jpeg image..

If you have a similar certificate with background markings or perhaps a check with a background, scan it and then open your scanned image in Photoshop. It will show the same thing.


14 posted on 04/27/2011 10:14:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If every person were like Sarah Palin, this world would be a peaceful, beautiful world to live in.)
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To: zeebee

In Before Dan Rather Sweeps The COLB Under The Rug.


21 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:59 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama.....a perfect example of why you can't trust someone that won't look you in the eye)
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To: zeebee

Unless someone sent you an electronic file with a .psd extension that is supposedly Obama’s birth certificate, all this talk about layers is nonsense.


26 posted on 04/27/2011 10:21:06 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Nothing changes if nothing changes.)
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To: zeebee
Go look at the document on the White House website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

What is this supposed to be? What is with the curled page set on top of another page. That is clearly what was done. Yet all the green security paper pattern lines up? This doesn't even make sense.

How is it that the birth certificate curls into the page? And there is a stamp and signature at the bottom. What? What did Alvan T. Onaka actually sign?

This thing is such a crock it is disorienting in trying to describe it because it is so preposterous.

Also, right click and look at document properties. The pdf file was created at 12:09PM today. Not sure what that means.

The only thing I can come up with, assuming this is real, is that someone in Hawaii scanned the original, then photoshopped it onto a bigger piece of green security paper makin sure the pattern lined up, printed that creation, stamped it and had Onaka sign it, scanned that piece of paper and email the scanned image to the White House. That is the only way I can imagine the document provided could be created.

27 posted on 04/27/2011 10:21:54 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: zeebee

So, he produced a fake birth certificate that shows his father was NOT an American and therefore he’s not a natural born citizen?

Well, that’s brilliant.


32 posted on 04/27/2011 10:30:51 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: zeebee

Why does the capital “M” in ‘7:24 P.M.’ look so much smaller than all the other cap M’s in the image?


44 posted on 04/27/2011 11:00:05 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: LucyT; hoosiermama; rxsid

Ping


55 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:08 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: zeebee
This lends credence to my point that Ann Dunham's name was forged over another BC. Stanley Ann's signature
71 posted on 04/28/2011 10:03:41 AM PDT by Crucial
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