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Barge loaded with explosives was making its way from Memphis, Tenn., to Charleston, Mo
Southeast Missourian ^ | Southeast Missourian | M.D. Kittle

Posted on 04/27/2011 10:08:43 AM PDT by silentknight

Wednesday, April 27, 2011 ~ Updated 11:06 AM

By M.D. Kittle ~ Southeast Missourian

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers this hour is setting up a joint information center in Sikeston, Mo., and has tentatively scheduled a news conference for 1 p.m., according to a corps spokeswoman, although the timing has yet to be confirmed. Officials at the headquarters could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile, a barge loaded with explosives was making its way from Memphis, Tenn., to Charleston, Mo., destined for the Birds Point levee as the ash gray sky prepares to unleash more heavy rains and a big decision hangs in the balance.

The Army Corps of Engineers on Tuesday postponed its decision on a proposal to blow a huge hole in the levee, just downriver of the confluence. The procedure was put in place years ago as a desperate bid to reduce the amount of water moving down the Mississippi River, taking pressure off a soddened Cairo, Ill.

Mary Statum, a spokeswoman for the Corps of Engineers Memphis District, could not comment on whether a decision on breaching the levy had been reached this morning. She said corps officials met with the multistate Mississippi River Commission for several hours Tuesday but came to no conclusion.

"We're not going to make a decision until we have to," she said Tuesday. "It's nothing we want to just jump into. You don't take it lightly. We decided we can wait a little longer."

In Cairo, and Alexander County, the water keeps rising, as the hectic pace of sandbagging continues and a voluntary evacuation remains in effect.

Alexander County Sheriff's Department dispatcher Sheila Dodson said the worst of the flooding is hitting the small community of Olive Branch. The heavy rains forecast for today, Dodson said, will only add "insult to injury" to a water-logged county.

The Mississippi is expected to crest at Cape Girardeau on Friday about four feet lower than the record-setting amount in 1993. At Cairo, Ill., not too far from Birds Point, the Ohio is expected to set a record Friday, and it is already 17 feet above flood stage. Forecasts call for the river to rise by another four feet by Friday.

Look for updates at semissourian.com, and in Thursday's Southeast Missourian.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 201104; 2011flood; flood; levee; leveebreach; mississippi; ohio; river

1 posted on 04/27/2011 10:08:46 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight

i have this mental image of them setting the explosives and pushing the plunger — just as the new madrid fault decides it’s finally time to let go . . .


2 posted on 04/27/2011 10:26:21 AM PDT by dep (all that is necessary for liberals to triumph is for honest people to do nothing)
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To: silentknight

Does anyone know of a website with drawings and/or maps that show exactly what is involved here?
All I can find is that it may be an issue of deciding whether to flood lots of farmland or to allow Cairo, IL to be badly flooded.


3 posted on 04/27/2011 10:29:30 AM PDT by olrtex
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To: silentknight

Cairo flooding out might not be the worst idea...maybe they could start over???


4 posted on 04/27/2011 10:30:14 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: silentknight

Did you know Cairo IL, pronounced Karo, is furthur south than Richmond VA ?


5 posted on 04/27/2011 10:36:19 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: silentknight

My father was a construction worker in the 1930s. He worked on a bridge over the Mississippi River at that time. He drove us across it in the 1976, during a cross-country trip. Wonder how it will fare in this situation, or if it is even still in use?


6 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:45 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Quix

Ping to post #2.


7 posted on 04/27/2011 10:57:04 AM PDT by houeto (Rev. 13. [7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:)
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To: olrtex

That’s basically what it is. Go to this yahoo maps site and you can move around to see the terrain.

http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=36.976586&lon=-89.162536&zoom=13&q1=cairo%2C%20il


8 posted on 04/27/2011 10:58:18 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: married21

correction. Ohio River bridge.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 11:01:37 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: silentknight

Reading the title, I figured it was terrorists.

Upon further reading, I see it’s the Army Corps of Engineers.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:53 AM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: silentknight

That barge isn’t named the SULTANA is it?


11 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:52 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: Travis McGee

ping...

Boom...


12 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:52 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: married21
This beauty? Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
By withtheflow at 2011-04-27
13 posted on 04/27/2011 11:16:03 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: dep

I have a mental image of Tuco and Blondie blowing up the bridge with stirring Ennio Morricone music in the background.


14 posted on 04/27/2011 11:19:58 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: smalltownslick

Could be. I’m a little confused looking at different Google images. Seems like the route across the MS now is a four-lane interstate highway. I’m pretty sure the one we went over was two lanes, and scary high for the little girl I was at the time.


15 posted on 04/27/2011 11:24:09 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: silentknight

Oh NO! Not the “blowing up levees” thing again?


16 posted on 04/27/2011 11:26:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wastedyears
"Reading the title, I figured it was terrorists. Upon further reading, I see it’s the Army Corps of Engineers."

In this particular case, there's no real difference.

17 posted on 04/27/2011 11:36:09 AM PDT by SelmaLee
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To: dep

my image is that after all the labor of sandbagging, that theyd simply back concrete trucks up and finish the walls to ease the manpower needed next time it rains...


18 posted on 04/27/2011 11:36:27 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: houeto

hmmmmmm

Sigh.

May God have mercy on all of a kind heart & all who Love Him.


19 posted on 04/27/2011 11:41:00 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SelmaLee
In this particular case, there's no real difference.

Oh please. Relax.

20 posted on 04/27/2011 11:42:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: silentknight

We need a Lancaster bomber for this detail.


21 posted on 04/27/2011 11:42:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: silentknight; Big Giant Head; listenhillary

Wow, could this turn into another ‘93? Remember standing on the flood wall at Hannibal, BGH?


22 posted on 04/27/2011 12:01:19 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: wastedyears

Upon further reading, I see it’s the Army Corps of Engineers.

A branch of the governmental terrorist bureau!!!


23 posted on 04/27/2011 12:31:28 PM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: ShadowAce

There’s nothing to relax about. I bet you don’t farm do you?


24 posted on 04/27/2011 12:34:29 PM PDT by SelmaLee
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To: SelmaLee
I bet you don’t farm do you?

Not currently, but I grew up on one that fed us and several neighbors. I know all about the farming.

Bet you don't live in town where the water is destroying homes and businesses, do you?

25 posted on 04/27/2011 12:40:11 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: wolfcreek

Why didn’t they just call President Bush? According to the left he blew up the New Orleans levee himself. Of course high explosives are more exciting.


26 posted on 04/27/2011 12:40:48 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: ShadowAce
I know all about the farming.
27 posted on 04/27/2011 12:41:02 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Marie Antoinette

Cairo is projected to break the old flood level of 59.50 feet set in 1937. Having both the Ohio river and the Mississippi river at major flood stage at the same time last happened about 20 years ago.

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=pah&gage=ciri2&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1%22


28 posted on 04/27/2011 12:53:43 PM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: AppyPappy

Indeed!


29 posted on 04/27/2011 12:57:32 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: wastedyears

“Reading the title, I figured it was terrorists”....

Me too! Glad I read the fine print...what a misleading headline...geez!


30 posted on 04/27/2011 1:00:49 PM PDT by CT Hillbilly
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To: AppyPappy
"We need a Lancaster bomber for this detail."

With a Wallis bomb?

31 posted on 04/27/2011 1:08:46 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: silentknight

Meanwhile, we can’t get rain in West Texas. Only 0.20 of an inch of rain in 7 months.

I just about can’t take this weather anymore, nor the fire and smoke coming with it.

It is dry here, but it’s not supposed to be this dry. I miss Kansas spring rains ridiculously right now.


32 posted on 04/27/2011 1:14:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: silentknight

bye bye Ms American Pie
Drove a POS Chevy to the levee but the levee was

KABOOOOOMMM!


33 posted on 04/27/2011 1:24:10 PM PDT by Longdriver
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To: dep

This is ridiculous if the goal is to “save” Cairo, Il. I would not trade one Charleston, Bertrand, or Sikeston, Mo. for TEN Cairos. Typical C of E idiocy if this is the stated goal.


34 posted on 04/27/2011 1:32:47 PM PDT by thelastvirgil (B. Hussein Obama would steal from a blind dung beetle, then set it on the wrong path home.)
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To: wastedyears
Reading the title, I figured it was terrorists.

Upon further reading, I see it’s the Army Corps of Engineers. To hear the liberals and media tell it during the Bush/Katrina crisis, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.

35 posted on 04/27/2011 2:49:57 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: ShadowAce

You don’t live here - I do - and that settles it for me.


36 posted on 04/27/2011 3:33:32 PM PDT by SelmaLee
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I thought Rumsfeld helped him while Cheney stayed behind in DC to run the weather machine.


37 posted on 04/27/2011 3:46:37 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: VRWCmember
To hear the liberals and media tell it during the Bush/Katrina crisis, ...

And those same liberals and media will consider this proof that Dick Cheney dynamited the levees in Nawlins.

38 posted on 04/27/2011 4:24:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: silentknight

Hmmm. A large barge full of explosives - Sounds like Rosie O’Donnell wearing an explosives vest floating down the Mississippi.


39 posted on 04/27/2011 8:08:23 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: wolfcreek
Oh NO! Not the “blowing up levees” thing again?

First thing that came to my mind. Spike Lee is furiously taking notes right now, LOL.

40 posted on 04/27/2011 8:56:44 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: silentknight

During this flooding season? Are they crazy? Would be rather easy to lose control, wouldn’t it?


41 posted on 04/27/2011 9:09:28 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Tupelo
SULTANA. Am I the only one who gets the reference?

Presonally, I'm expecting a new lake, fed and drained by the Mississippi, named Lake Oh Shi...

42 posted on 04/27/2011 10:03:29 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: jonascord

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn’t it be safer to simply bleed the levies along both sides of the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio rivers? Some large pipes installed at five kilometer intervals near the top and slanting down the slope could do the job. I’m no engineer, but that’s really the first thought that occurred to me, after seeing that this wasn’t another crazed Mennonite caught by Homeland Security.


43 posted on 04/28/2011 1:28:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn’t it be safer to simply bleed the levies along both sides of the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio rivers?

Seems like a fair question. The only reason I can figure is that the way the some levees are constructed, flooding on the 'dry' side can weaken them by an unknown amount, requiring that they be dismantled and rebuilt. Arguably, dynamiting them and letting the water carry them away would reduce the amount of work required to dismantle them. Plausible theory, except that dismantling levies and keeping the material on hand to rebuild would seem easier than rebuilding the levies with material from elsewhere.

Even if the sole loss caused by the flooding of farmland is the inability to plant and harvest one year's crop, that would be millions of dollars. How much cash money would one have to offer every inhabitant of Cairo for them to decide moving wasn't so bad?

44 posted on 05/03/2011 3:20:30 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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