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Posted on 04/27/2011 11:25:17 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No, I am analyzing an eloctronice document and saying that there is no way that this was a scanned image
It was made of LAYERS in software
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:48:14 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
Jeez, looks like Stephanopoulos has his work cut out for him.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:49:12 AM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(*** Jesus ***)
To: paulycy
YW! post 47 has a much clearer view ...
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:49:24 AM PDT
by
JennysCool
(My hypocrisy goes only so far)
To: Mr. K

(Where's the BC with the footprints?)
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:50:15 AM PDT
by
paulycy
(Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
To: commish
HOw about Parfaits? Parfaits have layers! And everyone loves a parfait. Had to look it up. Didn't know what one was.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:50:27 AM PDT
by
houeto
(Rev. 13. [7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:)
To: Ladysforest
look at the date handwritten 8-7-61
note the shape and size- they are exactly the same.
If you sign your name and date a millions times rarely will any two of them be exactly the same.
one might have been copied onto the other
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:50:34 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
To: Mr. K
57
posted on
04/27/2011 11:51:25 AM PDT
by
roses of sharon
("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
To: Jack Hydrazine
Dan Rather: “This is a fake but accurate BC”
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:52:12 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
To: Never on my watch
“Onions have layers, Ogres have layers.”
Dupers have layers, but the duped are always a one dimensional target, taking the hits as they come.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:52:14 AM PDT
by
pallis
To: Mr. K
Does anyone have a photo of the one Biden did in crayon where he spelled Hawaii and Obama wrong?
;-)
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:53:50 AM PDT
by
PATRIOT1876
(The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
To: onyx
PING to post 47
It looks like this thing is a fake.
FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:54:02 AM PDT
by
paulycy
(Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
To: Mr. K
I opened it in Photoshop Elements and saw those white areas behind the text.
YES!
That image was built up, not scanned from a document.
To: Sir Napsalot
I think his name was “Donkey”
To: Mr. K
Has anybody actually seen the real paper birth certificate? Releasing a scan of a document is not proof of the document’s existence.
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
The MSM went haywire when Trump released his BC, Saying he was not legal to run for POTUS because he was boen in Jamaica and his mama was Scottish. Trump the next day released his real non layered COLB and they hushed.
You can bet your sweet patootie if Trump released LAYERS and white in the background of green embossed markings to prevent against forgery and ID theft they would be rightfully screaming forgery.
Call it for what it is, call me a birther,call me crazy and I am sorry but the supposed Obama released COLB is fishy to say the least.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:55:28 AM PDT
by
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
(If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
To: commish
Whore houses have layers as well...
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:55:36 AM PDT
by
gov_bean_ counter
(Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
To: JennysCool
Thank you for this.
This is pretty incriminating. Those are individual edits, not scanning artifacts.
Fake. Fraud.
Busted.
HA!
67
posted on
04/27/2011 11:55:54 AM PDT
by
paulycy
(Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I called this one... You and me both. Zealots off all stripes tend to overplay their hand.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:56:04 AM PDT
by
GSWarrior
(Nothing changes if nothing changes.)
To: Ladysforest
I find it interesting, that the Nordyke twins, born after obama, in the same hospital, filed after obama, have sequential document numbers, before obama.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:56:36 AM PDT
by
bird4four4
(God Damn America!!! - Mr. Wright, your prayer has been answered 11-4-08)
To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
It’s a forgery. The Dunham Obama signature is a composite of two signatures. Speculation: the original DOB was earlier in the year. Speculation: the original signature did not have Ann as the first name.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:56:43 AM PDT
by
bIlluminati
(Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
To: Mr. K
Pdf docs usually do have layers. They aren’t static images like. Jpg files.
Look up OCR- optical character recognition. Acrobat pulls out the text and adds it on a separate layer so it can be searchable. I’ll post more on it when im not on my phone.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:57:43 AM PDT
by
mnehring
To: Aroostook25
I wonder if a blogger will fess up on Daily Kaos like the last time?
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:57:56 AM PDT
by
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
(If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
To: Mr. K
The stupid... It burns...
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:59:08 AM PDT
by
El Sordo
(The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
To: Mr. K
note the shape and size- they are exactly the same.I only see the date once on this PDF. What are you comparing it to?
To: Mr. K
It's a lot simpler than people think
http://www.datalogics.com/products/psl/
Compression
Images produced by scanning devices can be huge. For example, a single letter-size or A4-size page scanned in color at 300dpi results in about 24MB of image data. PSL uses various image compression techniques and strategies to significantly reduce the size of each page contained in the created PDF. The output PDF page images may be compressed using simple single-layer compression methods or high-efficiency, multi-layer compression methods. Multi-layer compression involves segmenting the input image by its content and applying optimal compression methods to each segment. Both simple compression and multi-layer compression capabilities are available in PSL.
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posted on
04/27/2011 11:59:51 AM PDT
by
Adammon
To: mlizzy; KarlInOhio
To: Mr. K
Would somebody please save the document as posted on the WH site for me *before* they read all this layers stuff and “ fix it” so it’s more “ real”?
Thanks in advance!
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:00:18 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(Appalachian Headhunter Extraordinaire.)
To: mnehring
Look up OCR- optical character recognition. Acrobat pulls out the text and adds it on a separate layer so it can be searchable.Shhhh... someone might hear you.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:00:31 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yan
To: Mr. K
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:02:19 PM PDT
by
blondee123
(Obama-Socialist in Chief!)
To: paulycy
LOL that was the one that he is born in Mombasa Kenya.Probably the real one.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:02:56 PM PDT
by
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
(If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
To: Mr. K
note the shape and size- they are exactly the same.I only see the date once on this PDF. What are you comparing it to?
To: mnehring
A PDF of a scanned image starts with ONLY one layer- the image.
This one is made up of multiple layers
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:03:32 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
To: sr4402
You can pull the PDF file off the White House Website and see the layers with a PDF editor. That is until they replace it with ANOTHER copy that won't allow the layers to be seen.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:04:10 PM PDT
by
unixfox
(Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
To: Mr. K
I just pulled the PDF from the WH site into Illustrator, and it does indeed have layers
To: mnehring
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:04:34 PM PDT
by
mel
(o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
To: Mr. K
Was he not named Barry Sorento first?
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:04:34 PM PDT
by
youngidiot
(Hear Hear!)
To: Mr. K
My graphics expert friend comments:
the more interesting thing about the way the scanner made the layers is that the date in 2011 was in the same layer as some of the supposedly older information. they should have been in different layers, but for some reason they were identified by very sensitive scanning equipment as being the same. if there is a red flag here, that is it.
To: RobinWWJD
I am going to have to try that, thanks for the idea and the bare essentials.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:05:27 PM PDT
by
runninglips
(Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
To: mnehring
If you are starting out with this...

It and the person creating it; is not official or offishal.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:05:31 PM PDT
by
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
(If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
To: klb99
Also,,what about the fonts? There were only typewriters in 61....... You'd think they might have learned something from the Rather fiasco.
To: Pan_Yan
So you are thinking Obama scanned the image with OCR software?
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:05:58 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
To: Mr. K
Exactly. And someone JUST HAD TO ADD (Stanley) and if they said negro instead of African it would have also been more believable. (Only a liberal would think AFRICAN)
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:08:26 PM PDT
by
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
(If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
To: Never on my watch
So, do Wookies have layers too?
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:08:36 PM PDT
by
SoldierDad
(Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
To: mnehring
Pdf docs usually do have layers. They arent static images like. Jpg files. Look up OCR- optical character recognition. Acrobat pulls out the text and adds it on a separate layer so it can be searchable. Ill post more on it when im not on my phone.Your points are well taken. However:
1) When opened in other pdf editors these layers do not appear. The pdf appears as one single image.
2)If the text were to be searchable text it would be consistent text in one electronic font and would not be a combination of dark and light (edited) characters as shown in the examples. This is more editing at the pixel level and NOT at the character level. There is editing on the signatures also and they would NOT be OCRed.
So I don't think the OCR layer theory holds up under this evidence.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:08:46 PM PDT
by
paulycy
(Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
To: Mr. K
It's called Optical Character Recognition software. When you scan something into a PDF, Acrobat scans the text into different layers and makes the text searchable.
You can deactivate it when you scan something into a PDF, but whoever scanned it obviously forgot to turn it off, and now because of this we will be treated to many more years of wild conspiracy theories, all because some government employee made a rookie mistake.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:08:58 PM PDT
by
GunRunner
(10 Years of Freeping...)
To: Aroostook25
I think an interesting exercise would be an attempt to demonstrate the document released
is legitimate. That is, despite all the evidence presented thusfar that it appears to be a fake, if it can be demonstrated that despite evidence to the contrary it
could be legitimate, then the issue of the birth certificate would be diminished and we can focus on other concerns such as his parentage.
Alternatively, if the exercise shows the document cannot be legitimate it would present solid evidence it was faked.
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:09:29 PM PDT
by
glennaro
To: Mr. K
Can anyone tell me why only some of the black parts are removed while other black parts stay with the green background??
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:09:58 PM PDT
by
Genoa
(Just show it)
To: BreezyDog
I find it interesting that the signatures are on a different layer than the text.
The initial link says they think someone took the negative and made it readable for us by putting it on green background. But how would the scanner separate the signature from the other text? And why are some sigs on different layers?
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:10:21 PM PDT
by
for-q-clinton
(If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
To: GunRunner
how about the signatures? Why are some on different layers?
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posted on
04/27/2011 12:11:41 PM PDT
by
for-q-clinton
(If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
To: paulycy
I did it myself in Inkscape.
It’s layered.
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