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2009 Report: Hawaii Health Department went paperless, discarded documents
American Thinker ^ | 4/28/11 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 04/28/2011 1:32:25 PM PDT by Nachum

In the words of Lewis Carroll, it gets curioser and curiouser. According to this report, back when Lou Dobbs (then a CNN host) began to raise questions about Obama's birth, CNN president Jon Klein had his researchers contact the Hawaii Department of Health to inquire as to the records. TV Newser reproduced the letter in a post dated July 24, 2009:

From: Klein, Jon (CNN) Sent: Thu Jul 23 19:00:44 2009 Subject: Important re birth certificate

I asked the political researchers to dig into the question "why couldn't Obama produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate?"

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; department; hawaii; health; lie; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease; palin; report

1 posted on 04/28/2011 1:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Ever hear of microfiche?
2 posted on 04/28/2011 1:35:34 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Obummer dumber than a teleprompter.)
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To: cruise_missile
Ever hear of microfiche?

I think they are a punk rock band from the early 80's

3 posted on 04/28/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Nachum

I was absolutely confident that someone from the geekosphere would do this analysis and take this phony doc apart. I can’t believe that bho is so stupid to think this wouldn’t happen.....makes it worse for him. haha


4 posted on 04/28/2011 1:38:05 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: al baby
Ever hear of microfiche?

Where I come from we call 'em minnows. Or bait.
5 posted on 04/28/2011 1:42:31 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: Nachum

Because the supposed “birth certificate” is in all likelihood a fraud; a lie like, everything else about Imam Obamessiah and his “past”.


6 posted on 04/28/2011 1:42:49 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Nachum

I can see years from now there’ll be a whole cottage industry in HI selling the ‘original’ Obama BC on eBay.

/that is, if we still have some sort economy then


7 posted on 04/28/2011 1:46:17 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Does anyone seriously believe Obama does not have his original birth certificate and that he just recently had to send away for it?

How did he get his passport with out it?


8 posted on 04/28/2011 1:50:03 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: klb99
I can’t believe that bho is so stupid to think this wouldn’t happen.....makes it worse for him. haha

Quite possibly wrong, me hearty bucko! Good chance it could actually make it better. I have to imagine the risk analysis is in the latter option's favor.

Them as don't believe the BC (incl. moi) are going to be fewer in number than those who either do, or are just going say, WTF? let's move on. Those who voice complaints (incl. moi) are going to be dismissed as nit-picking racists.
Jeez, you asked for it, I released it. Waddayaracistbastidswant now?

Furthermore, he released a BC to draw our attention away from the overriding issue of "Natural Born Citizenship." Since the traditional interpretation has been that it requires 2 TWO DOS ZWEI citizen parents, Team Obama now has to come up with fancy foot work: part II. The birth certificate says the official father is African, so now he's either going to have to prove the old man was naturalized, which he wasn't, or come up with something really bizarre.

Since the BC has been released and is public, anyone can cite it in court to inquire as to his eligibility as an NBC. Can't wait!

9 posted on 04/28/2011 1:50:11 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in the "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix. To early to start shooting.)
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To: WaterBoard

I’m sure ha has one, too. I think I needed mine to get married. Had to prove my age.


10 posted on 04/28/2011 1:52:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kenny Bunk

There’s no act of Congress that backs up that “interpretation”. It’s just an “interpretation” ~


11 posted on 04/28/2011 1:53:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Dr Polland talks dunham certificate...[new book soon]...
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/28/dr-ron-polland-evaluates-obamas-birth-certificate/


12 posted on 04/28/2011 1:56:46 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Nachum
looking at both certs at the first AT link, there are two different registrars, days apart. I'd want to check employment records to verify employment.

People, we cannot be distracted by the inconsistencies on birth certificate itself - it's a dead end that will be used to belittle us, as was the refusal to show it to begin with. Withholding the document was a calculated and deliberate action costing the taxpayers millions of dollars in 'legal defense', along the way allowing a service member to be jailed for asking what Trump finally succeeded in getting released. This is not an honest administration. It's an administration that plays games.

We MUST put our focus on forcing the Democrats to answer the question as to natural born citizen and how it relates to holding public office. The Democrats are intentionally ignoring the issue because it already has been, and it will continue to be, to their political benefit to have anchor babies (or naturalized citizens like AAAnnold Governator) in high public offices. We cannot allow the Dems to keep the focus on the certificate itself. We must vociferously drive the conversation beyond the release of the document to the underlying issue of natural born citizenship, and we must remain as vociferous as Trump until that imperative issue has to be addressed.

imo jmo moo

13 posted on 04/28/2011 2:02:28 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Kenny Bunk

YES I totally agree that this phone b/c proves the dual citizenship (for those in Rio Linda this means NO NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!!). But do you see any media or “conservatives” saying that now he must go??? Even Fox is going to the dark side.


14 posted on 04/28/2011 2:03:41 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: Nachum

um... yeah OK

So no one in Hawaii knew this for 2 years?


15 posted on 04/28/2011 2:06:06 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Nachum

bkmk


16 posted on 04/28/2011 2:10:31 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: muawiyah
There’s no act of Congress that backs up that “interpretation”. It’s just an “interpretation” ~

The relevant act of Congress is called the Constitution, adopted in 1797. The interpretation occurred in a number of court cases:

•The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

•Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

•Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

•United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

•Duncan v. Louisiana, 391 U.S. 145 (1968)

It means exactly what John Jay said it should mean when he proposed its inclusion into the Constitution and he later sat as Chief Justice of the first Supreme Court of the United States. Barack Hussein Obama II (aka Barry Soetoro et al) is a natural born citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, regardless of where he was actually born. Having been born with allegiance to HM Queen Elizabeth II, he is not eligible to serve in the Office of the President, which requires the candidate for said office never to have owed allegiance to any other sovereign bu the United States of America after the adoption of the Constitution in 1797.

17 posted on 04/28/2011 2:23:50 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Nachum; All

Don’t believe this for a minute.

I have a harder time getting records ffor the early ‘70’s from Santa Barbara country as they have rocords on computer now - but all the original records are stored in basement vaults.

I do not beleiver they would be allowed to destroy the original records. What happens if there were a computer crash?

I have an idea. The LDS church has collected vital statistics for over 60 years from around the world in conjunction wtth their genealogy projects.

Betcha they have a microfiche of the original stored in that mountain!

http://newsroom.lds.org/article/granite-mountain-records-vault

video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkA2AT2FVzo


18 posted on 04/28/2011 2:34:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: WhiskeyX
You'll find that something like "establish post office and post roads" is backed up with an enormous number of laws.

The Constitution of the United States is like that. It sets up a structure for governance ~ and where folks have used it to make laws of a more detailed nature, that part has very often ended up recinded (e.g. Prohibition).

So, no, there's nothing IN the Constitution that tells us what "Natural Born" means, but we can pass a law or two that tells us what we agree for it to mean.

Congress can act now and resolve that issue.

The references from elsewhere are just interpretations.

19 posted on 04/28/2011 2:49:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: klb99
May I refer you my (plagiarized) new tag line. (of which I am unduly proud, even though I stole it.)

The released BC, whether a fignewton of the Obamian imagination or not, now opens some interesting doors.

20 posted on 04/28/2011 3:17:41 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in the "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Barack Hussein Obama deliberately released this abstract to create even more turmoil for his racial motives. THIS DOCUMENT IS DESIGNED TO CREATE A RACIAL DIVIDE. It is a politically engineered “spin” to pit blacks against whites for the Obama 2012 campaign.

Black Americans you had better wake up to how Obama is jerking you around psychologically. I will post more on this in a Tavis Smiley commenatry coming in a week.”

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/04/do-dozen-wrongs-make-right.html


21 posted on 04/28/2011 3:51:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: WaterBoard

{How did he get a passport?}

Observation of the day, if it has been brought up I haven’t seen it.


22 posted on 04/28/2011 7:43:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about lying politicians.)
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To: blueplum

{It’s an administration that plays games.}

They are not playing games, they are dead set on making war on America.


23 posted on 04/28/2011 7:48:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about lying politicians.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Question- now that he has “released his certificate”, are other documentations related to it no longer off- limits??


24 posted on 04/28/2011 11:34:08 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Jeez, you asked for it, I released it.
Wadda-ya-racist-bastids-want-now?

This is the the key to the 2012 election and the antidote to any attempt to remove him from the ballot on NBC eligibility grounds.

The math is in Obama's favor in the "Blue" states. The Race Card is kind of a weird replay of the Kennedy "anti-Catholic" claim, when it was actually the Catholic vote in the big states that put him over the top!

This is going to get very interesting. Too damn bad the Republic is at stake.

25 posted on 04/29/2011 6:55:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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