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Obama drops climate change talk as green movement fizzles
Baltimore Sun ^ | 1:21 p.m. EDT, April 27, 2011 | By Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/28/2011 2:06:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The public is increasingly skeptical of global warming and far more worried about the economy than the environment

What the heck went wrong?" That, apparently, is the question roiling the environmental community as it realizes that the fight against climate change has fizzled.

As Brad Plumer writes in the New Republic, everything was looking great in 2008 for a sweeping effort to make good on candidate Barack Obama's pledge to start turning back the rising oceans. The Democrats held Congress. Both John McCain and Mr. Obama had promised to push for capping carbon emissions. Corporations had gotten on board. Al Gore and "An Inconvenient Truth" had seemingly softened up the public to the point where it might go along with whatever a popular president promised.


"Instead, the climate push was ... a total flop," Mr. Plumer laments.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; agw; carbon; carboncredits; carbonexchange; carbontax; climatechange; co2; globalwarming; globalwarmingfraud; globalwarminghoax; glpbalwarminghoax; mccain; obama
H/T to Watts Up With That?

Here, let me fix that headline for you

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Here, let me fix that headline for you

Posted on by Anthony Watts

Corrected below.


1 posted on 04/28/2011 2:06:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's the headline:

OBAMA IS AN IDIOT


2 posted on 04/28/2011 2:07:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; blam; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; tubebender; ...
Good News ping....hopefully!
3 posted on 04/28/2011 2:09:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They'll do it under the table. He just hired a garu from GE and we're buying 25,000 Volts.

Our farmers are no longer raising corn for animals and people. It's all going to the ethanol plant thanks to a monstrous subsidy. And they talk about oil and gas subsidies.

4 posted on 04/28/2011 2:10:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

Of course everyone knows that we are export ethanol. We don’t even use it all. Who would have thunk!!


5 posted on 04/28/2011 2:19:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

Of course everyone knows that we are export ethanol. We don’t even use it all. Who would have thunk!!


6 posted on 04/28/2011 2:19:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jim Robinson

Where the hell did that come from? BHO just suggested taking subsidies from Big Oil to pay for green crap. This in a speech where he was is saying higher gas prices are good for the unwashed workers, inferring that his people will use public transportation.
Also don’t for a second turn your back on his EPA minions or that sneaky B’tard, Ken Salazar at the Department of Interior. Both are moving to regulate us into control.
This is too good even for the wizard of Oz.


7 posted on 04/28/2011 2:19:52 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"What the heck went wrong?" That, apparently, is the question roiling the environmental community....

Whereas "What went right for once, and how can we make it happen to unionistas, abortionistas, race hustlers, poverty pimps, illegal-invasion fans, and liberals in general?" is the question roiling the sane community.

8 posted on 04/28/2011 2:20:36 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What the heck went wrong?"

people realized that:

1) the claims of environmentalism are dishonest and based on pseudoscience
2) environmentalism leads to higher costs,decreased efficiency of production, decreased productivity, decreased production,higher prices, lower average standard of living, decreased freedom, and increased violations of private property rights

9 posted on 04/28/2011 2:22:14 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"What the heck went wrong?"

Sir Walter Scott answered that question:

"Oh! What a tangled web we weave
when first we practice to deceive."

10 posted on 04/28/2011 2:22:17 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Jim Robinson

They never can admit that the East Anglia Emails are their 18 1/2 minute gap. It’s over.


11 posted on 04/28/2011 2:23:39 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
pledge to start turning back the rising oceans.

What rising oceans?

I've heard this chicken-little call to arms from the environmentalists, but I've yet to see any rise, and I lived at the edge of an ocean for 13 years prior to moving out west, and there was absolutely no change in the level aside from the tides.

I thought we were supposed to have millions fleeing inland to escape the cities that should be underwater by now...
12 posted on 04/28/2011 2:35:36 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s real simple.

People will support the whole enviro agenda as long as they think it won’t cost them (personally) much.

If forced to choose between a green world and green in their pockets, they’ll take the money every time.


13 posted on 04/28/2011 2:36:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All of the environmental nonsense is tolerable when the treasury is full and business is booming. Under those conditions you can waste money on frivolous things. However, when the economy goes south and the country is facing bankruptcy, you can no longer afford to pizz money away.


14 posted on 04/28/2011 2:36:50 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Jim Robinson

AMEN


15 posted on 04/28/2011 2:37:24 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah. But the EPA just keeps on trucking along. The lower key the chatter, better chance of this administration continuing down it’s course to screw us on carbon issues. Same goes for keeping down any new oil/gas exploration within US boundaries.


16 posted on 04/28/2011 2:46:27 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Pox

I did not realize that oceans were racist.


17 posted on 04/28/2011 2:53:38 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“... the fight against climate change has fizzled.”

Phrased that way, it is a silly statement. Fight anything other than a climate utterly the same from year to year.


19 posted on 04/28/2011 3:05:35 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Bockscar
The question, What the heck went wrong?

It was BAD SCIENCE. The famous Hockey Stick graph - the number 1 pusher for having to deal with the problem turned out to be BOGUS. Samples of tree rings not favorable to the study were dropped out. The study deliberately chose not to show earlier warming which was greater because it would undermine the study.

The Climate Emails showed deliberate deceptions and underhanded tactics. Not only this but other claims turned out NOT TO BE SCIENTIFIC.

Not to mention a boat load of Hurricanes that didn't hit the US each year for the last 3 years as projected.

It was just plain bad science pushed by politics.

20 posted on 04/28/2011 3:11:57 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here, let me fix that headline for you

Obama drops climate change talk as Obama green movement fizzles

there, fixed it

22 posted on 04/28/2011 3:31:26 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Bockscar; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Normandy; FreedomPoster; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

23 posted on 04/28/2011 4:32:27 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

May the ecomarxist agenda die a domestic oil-soaked fiery death.


24 posted on 04/28/2011 5:41:06 PM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest. He dropped climate change talk in order to run for reelection. That same line of demagoguery will reemerge after he wins in 2012, count on it.


25 posted on 04/28/2011 5:52:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: sr4402
>>It was just plain bad science pushed by politics.

Well, on that note, it is worthwhile to recall the words of one Dwight David Eisenhower.

In the same farewell speech that the Left likes to quote so frequently in which he warns of the "military-industrial complex", he also very much warns of the Big Science / Big Government complex.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

What was have here with ClimateGate and all the Green nonsense pushed by politicians as a means to a power grab is exhibit A for the prescience of Eisenhower on this issue.

26 posted on 04/28/2011 6:13:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Pox
Right. The Maldives Islsands are about five feet above sea level. For twenty years now we have been told they will slip beneath the waves any day because of global warming. Just last year a resort company announced plans to build a resort vacation destination in the Maldives.
27 posted on 04/28/2011 7:54:47 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A little too late, but I’m sure he’ll give more money to the green side, just in case ya know.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 8:00:36 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 04/28/2011 8:54:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s an alternative headline:

THE PEOPLE ARE NOT QUITE THAT DUMB


30 posted on 04/29/2011 1:03:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Pox

I think I recall master scientist Ted Danson warning us of an underwater New York in twenty years. That was 1990. Where’s Ted nowadays?


31 posted on 04/29/2011 5:06:57 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Throw a commie out of the window and he will come back through the door as a greenie.
32 posted on 04/29/2011 5:08:40 AM PDT by G-Man 1 (-- get)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"What the heck went wrong?"

What went wrong is that it became obvious that your stupid theory was a bunch of bull, and that you were having to resort to telling bigger and bigger lies. That's what went wrong, you global warming con artists!

33 posted on 04/29/2011 7:41:19 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Glad to ‘hear’ it, FRiend. =]

Obama’s Green Energy Plants Create “Toxic Brew Of Pollutants”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2711449/posts


34 posted on 04/30/2011 6:11:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Correct Title:

Obummer drops climate change talk, but continues to allow EPA to stop all energy development that does not involve wind or sun!

35 posted on 04/30/2011 6:16:13 AM PDT by TRY ONE (Another Beer Summit.....another day in Debt)
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