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Ryan calls for ending oil subsidies
Politico ^ | 04/28/2011 | Robin Bravender

Posted on 04/28/2011 3:35:00 PM PDT by Hawk720

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan called for ending oil subsidies Thursday, further complicating Republican efforts to stay on message about rising gas prices.

The Wisconsin Republican told constituents at a Waterford, Wis., town hall meeting that he agreed that federal oil subsidies ought to end.

“We’re talking about reforming the safety net, the welfare system; we also want to get rid of corporate welfare. And corporate welfare goes to agribusiness companies, energy companies, financial services companies, so we propose to repeal all that,” Ryan said in response to a question about oil subsidies.

A video of Ryan's town hall meeting was circulated by Think Progress, a blog run by the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress Action Fund.

In a statement to POLITICO, Ryan’s office said the House-passed budget resolution “clearly states that as part of an overall corporate tax reform, tax loopholes and deductions for all corporations should be scaled back or eliminated entirely. That obviously includes oil companies. Elsewhere, we state that subsidies for all energy companies need to be reduced or eliminated so that we can get government out of the business of picking winners and losers in the market.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: paulryan; thinkprogress; wisconsin
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To: paulycy; AAABEST

“I did not know all that. Thank you for the info.”

Ditto.


41 posted on 04/28/2011 4:02:29 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: MSF BU
Yep, PEMEX, and Canadian fields futures are about to sky rocket. What the sheeple don't realize is the oil companies will just shrug this off, and do their E/P activities elswhere.

Tack on transmission charges, and lower revenues from domestic production, and you what have is probably $8-10 gallon gas without the dollar devaluation.

I can't beleive our legislators (both sides) are this stupid.

42 posted on 04/28/2011 4:03:20 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: AAABEST
When you extend the period of depreciation ("end the subsidy" in Congress~speak) during a period of industrial materiel and capital deflation, you increase the real cost of the annual depreciation in future periods far more than you gain in terms of real income in the present period.

It's kind of a dumb thing to do. During continuing high levels of industrial depreciation you should be REDUCING the period of depreciation.

43 posted on 04/28/2011 4:03:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hawk720

Sounds like a true conservative to me.


44 posted on 04/28/2011 4:03:39 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: mylife
I am tired of paying more to get less MPH while driving to the store to pay higher food costs.

Government manipulation of the masses is an expensive endeavor.

The money has to come from somewhere.

Lately it is a race between government inflationary tactics and taxes as to how the wealth is taken.

Since taxes are so unpopular government has taken the printing route to take our wealth via inflation.

They seem to always get it one way or another.

45 posted on 04/28/2011 4:04:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Hawk720

How about ending all subsidies?


46 posted on 04/28/2011 4:04:10 PM PDT by GSWarrior (GSWarrior's tagline has layers.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Uhm, that would be agribusiness.


47 posted on 04/28/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: Mr. Lucky
Which subsidies are those?

The indirect subsidy that increases the market price of corn.

That is, the law that requires gasoline contain at least 10% ethanol.

48 posted on 04/28/2011 4:04:54 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: re_nortex
While some see the industry's doing well as a reason to impose additional taxes, punishing success is not in America's best interest.

Although I am far too uninformed to intelligently compare tax rates between industries and services I completely agree with the statement above.

49 posted on 04/28/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

“I bet the Oil companies wouldn’t care a bit about subsidies if the government would remove the boot from their neck and allow them to drill the massive amounts of energy we have here in America.”

Exactly. The subsidies are not needed, trust me.


50 posted on 04/28/2011 4:07:19 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

I don’t think so. Ending ALL subsidies eliminates all the green efforts. Given a level playing field I’ll put my bet on the O&G companies to do okay. Green companies cannot compete fairly and won’t survive without government subsidies. So yeah, end them all.

Small O&G companies will be really hurt, which is a concern, but it the end affects all companies I am confident there would be investment to help small O&G companies.

Simply, just get the government OUT of business.


51 posted on 04/28/2011 4:07:28 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

” Ryan turns RINO.......ugh “ ====================

Actually Ryan is a deadly serious realist.

We are subsidizing the Petroleum Club with Chinese money. We are now even at war on Chinese yens. We are broke. What was cool yesterday is so yesterday, because it is so gone as to be over. We are broke, but for what the Chinese agree to loan us. To have even a prayer to recover all things must be on the table. I say slash it ALL-L-L-L and fast. We can re-instate essentials as necessary.


52 posted on 04/28/2011 4:07:41 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

When we’re hearing that some big oil is reaping record profits ... frankly, it’s a little understandable that politicians would favor not subsidizing some of the big oil companies.

Boehner made it clear that only SOME subsidies for the largest companies might be looking at a reduction or discontinuation. Not ALL oil companies.


53 posted on 04/28/2011 4:07:41 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: AAABEST
What's funny is that if we end these "subsidies," Fed.gov wouldn't even get the money. The oil companies would likely stop engaging in the activities that are being "subsidized."

At $100 plus for a barrel of oil, they don't need "subsidies" taking huge risks in exploration and development.

Oil at $40 a barrel... They probably do

It's all relative the economic times

54 posted on 04/28/2011 4:08:23 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Carling
VERY disappointing statement by Paul Ryan. I hope he can explain his thinking on this issue, because to me, it will only increase food and energy costs.

Why is the US paying for companies to turn food into ethanol? Why is the US paying for farmers to grow food to turn into ethanol? Why is the US paying billions for companies to develop technologies that will not work?

Make the Democrats say no.

55 posted on 04/28/2011 4:08:45 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Is Trump a Stalking Horse for Guiliani?)
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To: catfish1957
And to add to my earlier point, did anyone notice that the CEO of Chevron commented, that they wouldn't mind if these so called subsides (incentives) ended.

At some point in time, the Chevrons Shells, and ExxonMobils of the world are going to say the PR backlash just isn't worth it, and will take their equipment, manpower, and resouces to an area which will welcome the resouces, jobs, and tax base.

Ryan calling for this is jaw dropping and incredibly disappointing.

56 posted on 04/28/2011 4:09:01 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Mr. Lucky

As I understand this so-called subsidy is depreciation.
Business asset has a useful life so does an oil well.

That’sstandard business practice and accounting. But our government misleads again.

o


57 posted on 04/28/2011 4:10:35 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Hawk720; All

In addition. IF these so-called subsidies are ended, it has to be across the board.

R&D is an expense companies can deduct. Well, exploration for possible drilling sites is nothing more than R&D for an oil company. If it’s ended for one, end it for all.


58 posted on 04/28/2011 4:12:30 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: EGPWS
"They are sticking it to us!"

"Sticking it!!!"


59 posted on 04/28/2011 4:12:34 PM PDT by mylife
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To: paulycy

” End all subsidies. No other option. “

Thank you paulycy! There are so few realists left, however, that our country may not survive. But thank God you are one of the very few. We are all yen now but we want to borrow to subsidize? Sheesh.


60 posted on 04/28/2011 4:13:34 PM PDT by RitaOK
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