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Ryan calls for ending oil subsidies
Politico ^ | 04/28/2011 | Robin Bravender

Posted on 04/28/2011 3:35:00 PM PDT by Hawk720

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To: ChiMark

How stupid is this? Ryan and boehner have not said a word about the billions to petrobas and now shill this issue? What a farce.


61 posted on 04/28/2011 4:15:01 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: ChiMark

How stupid is this? Ryan and boehner have not said a word about the billions to petrobas and now shill this issue? What a farce.


62 posted on 04/28/2011 4:15:01 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: AAABEST
The oil companies would likely stop engaging in the activities that are being "subsidized."

If the activities aren't worth doing unless they are subsidized then it is indeed welfare.

63 posted on 04/28/2011 4:15:12 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Is Trump a Stalking Horse for Guiliani?)
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To: Hawk720

What about:

Farm subsidies
Ethanol Subsidies
Wind Subsidies
Planned Parenthood
...


64 posted on 04/28/2011 4:17:47 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: RitaOK

It all seems difficult yet simple.

But nobody wants to do the difficult part.


65 posted on 04/28/2011 4:19:30 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

What is RINO about ending subsidies?


66 posted on 04/28/2011 4:20:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Popman
At $100 plus for a barrel of oil, they don't need "subsidies" taking huge risks in exploration and development.

Oil at $40 a barrel... They probably do.

I'm not trying to be contrarian, I'm really not - but you have it perfectly backwards.

Two primary means (the two primary means in fact) of lowering retail prices is increasing supply and lowering production costs.

These "subsidies" accomplish both.

Using your example, the wisest time to end these (non) subsidies would be when oil hits $40 per barrel.

67 posted on 04/28/2011 4:21:11 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

I don’t see the problem with ending a majority corporate tax breaks and subsidies. I’d cut their tax rates, for sure... but I don’t like special clauses & exceptions & so on.


68 posted on 04/28/2011 4:22:24 PM PDT by wizard61 (Hack the Narrative!)
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To: wizard61

End all subsidies. Let the free market thrive.


69 posted on 04/28/2011 4:23:49 PM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Cobra64; All
Wow!

All the pissin' and moanin' from folks who believe in less government interference in the private sector. You're bitchin' about keeping a subsidy for oil. That ain't less government interference. It's status quo.

Ryan isn't stupid. Consider that quite possibly Ryan is setting the stage for further elimination of all government subsidies and is sacrificing "big bad evil oil" as a precedent for future subsidy guts 'n cuts.

Put the $4 billion into perspective of this information.

When oil prices blew sky high in 2008, Exxon/Mobil alone paid taxes and collected in 2008:

$36.5 billion in income taxes

$34.5 billion in sales taxes

$45 billion in other taxes

.

$4 billion for the entire industry is a relatively small percentage of the overall government confiscation from the oil industry. Personally, I do not believe in ANY corporate taxes nor ANY subsidies at all. I'm a free market person.

Going down the road, Ryan can argue, and make the case that he condoned eliminating oil subsidies and that we should eliminate ALL subsidies, and allow capitalism prevail in a free market.

Is a truly free market supported by the government? Or do we pick and choose?

70 posted on 04/28/2011 4:26:05 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: cripplecreek
I agree with his statement, wish i believed him, but since his TARP vote i think he is just talking.
71 posted on 04/28/2011 4:26:50 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: jwalsh07

You subsidize what you want lots more of. You tax or eliminate deductions on things you want less of. We need more discoveries on the domestic side. We are desperate for more domestic production.


72 posted on 04/28/2011 4:28:56 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: wizard61

Exactly right, every subsidy/tax exemption is a payoff to somebody. Ryan has good instincts. He should run for POTUS.


73 posted on 04/28/2011 4:29:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
You subsidize what you want lots more of. You tax or eliminate deductions on things you want less of.

So Ryan's not the RINO, you are. Sorry but crony capitalism sn't something that interests me.

We need more discoveries on the domestic side. We are desperate for more domestic production.

And we don't need subsidies to do that we just need fewer morons in DC who think Gaia only suffers when America drills on American territroy.

74 posted on 04/28/2011 4:33:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mike Darancette

Ryan should make those specific arguments, then. Connecting breaks for oil companies with ethanol boondoggles only confuses the issue, and it makes it appear that Obama is correct in blaming “Big Oil” for high fuel prices. The more I digest Ryan’s words, the more short-sighted they seem to be.


75 posted on 04/28/2011 4:36:36 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: Hawk720

what a stupid move by Ryan. The government should not increase taxes on oil companies by $4B which will just get passed on to us. Other industries get tax breaks. Utter stupidity.


76 posted on 04/28/2011 4:39:28 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Hawk720

Republicans want to have it both ways. You can’t pick and choose which subsidies you’re going to get rid of. It’s easy to say let’s defund NPR or Planned Parenthood. It’s tougher to say let’s not give subsidies to oil companies.


77 posted on 04/28/2011 4:40:13 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
You can’t pick and choose which subsidies you’re going to get rid of.

Who says you can't?

78 posted on 04/28/2011 4:41:56 PM PDT by Chunga (I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: plain talk
The government should not increase taxes on oil companies by $4B which will just get passed on to us. Other industries get tax breaks. Utter stupidity.

I assume you mean that taxes should be cut for all other companies to the same low rate. Otherwise what you have is crony capitalism, which is just another form of crony communism and it's ugly sister crony fascism.

79 posted on 04/28/2011 4:42:50 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: Chunga

Do we want politics or do we want leadership?


80 posted on 04/28/2011 4:46:06 PM PDT by HarleyD
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