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Is name of Obama's birth hospital somehow phony?
WND ^ | April 28, 2011 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 04/28/2011 7:00:35 PM PDT by RobinMasters

In the immediate aftermath of President Obama's issuance of an image he claims to be his original, long-form birth certificate, there have been rumors swirling that the name of his alleged birth hospital is not accurate on the document.

The image states the specific hospital for Obama's birth is the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

That has sparked some cries of fraud and a flood of emails to WND, as some have noted that the name of the hospital currently is the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children, and there's no mention of "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" on the facility's own website which provides some history of itself.

On its "About us" page, Kapiolani explains: "This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi'olani Maternity Home."

It says the two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children, but it makes no mention that it was known for a time as the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

The variety of names is sparking confusion, with one WND reader sending a typical email stating: "The hospital's name that was listed on Obama's birth certificate was not called that hospital in 1978. It was a different name in 1961 and later changed its name."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; hawaii
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1 posted on 04/28/2011 7:00:38 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

“Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” is what it says on the Nordyke BC.


2 posted on 04/28/2011 7:02:14 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Could the Nordake BC’s be plants?


3 posted on 04/28/2011 7:05:05 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: marron

Is it normal for a State to go back and edit out older hospital names from birth records?


4 posted on 04/28/2011 7:06:15 PM PDT by allmost
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To: RobinMasters

Wait. I’m confused. did you read the WND post in full?

Did you notice that even THEY say the hospital name is legit?


5 posted on 04/28/2011 7:06:34 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: RobinMasters

The birth certificate is a red herring. Even under the most ideal circumstances it leads nowhere. Proved beyond the shadow of a doubt is not obtainable, but it distracts from the mission at hand - we have an inept, disasterous CINC who needs to be booted on the merits of his actions, not his qualifications.


6 posted on 04/28/2011 7:11:13 PM PDT by Sax
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To: RobinMasters

All has been explained. Free Republic: Home of the Uninformed!


7 posted on 04/28/2011 7:11:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: whattajoke
maybe it was a clandestine abortion clinic? that is where the scar that is on his head came from. one big assed mistake that day
8 posted on 04/28/2011 7:13:39 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: RobinMasters

Please. This is all wrongheaded and foolish.

I have posted already too many times to count, the name of this facility in 1961 was indeed “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital”.

I drove by the place two, three, four times a day or more, virtually every day from 1961 through 1969. I lived only five blocks away.

I also had two children born in that hospital in 1965 and in 1969.

I am telling everyone on this board that I know this to be factual from my own experience. Moreover I was issued birth certificates from the Hawaii Board of Health back in the ‘60’s that are virtually identical in form and content to the Nordyke twins.

This discussion is a wrongheaded waste of time. It leads nowhere.

The name of this hospital in 1969 and right up until 1971 was:

Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

Let’s be done with this.


9 posted on 04/28/2011 7:14:11 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: RobinMasters
Why does anybody post World Nut Daily articles? They are morons!


10 posted on 04/28/2011 7:16:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: John Valentine

11 posted on 04/28/2011 7:17:26 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: RobinMasters

What?.... Did the DemoCriminals use the wrong type font again? >BoD


12 posted on 04/28/2011 7:20:03 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: John Valentine
Thank you. On-line info contradicted that. Bump to post #9.
13 posted on 04/28/2011 7:20:49 PM PDT by allmost
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To: All
Well here is my take on this issue. Thanks to Monty Python..
This issue is no more! It has ceased to be!
14 posted on 04/28/2011 7:22:24 PM PDT by KevinDavis ( Anyone who backs Trump is a chump..)
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To: RobinMasters

This link had some good info on this subject. Look at the bottom

http://www.favstocks.com/layering-obamas-new-colb-raises-more-questions-than-it-answers/2750560/


15 posted on 04/28/2011 7:25:09 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: marron

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=Kapiolani+Maternity+and+Gynecological&hl=en&as_sdt=2003&case=6202324661126393003&scilh=0

And here’s a court case involving the hospital as a litigant using that name. The author of this piece didn’t do much research - would have probably taken all of five minutes to find multiple references to the hospital being referred to by that name.

Folks, many of you are looking the same as those on the left who insist Kloppenberg won in Wisconsin and Bush stole Florida in 2000. Time to let it go now...it is a huge distraction to the issues like Obamacare that must be dealt with.


16 posted on 04/28/2011 7:27:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RobinMasters
The answer is simple: this Obama stepped through a dimensional vortex and ended up in our dimension.

He is an American...in his dimension. That's why he's so confused.

If we don't return him then he will warp our reality beyond comprehension.

Oops, too late!

17 posted on 04/28/2011 7:34:12 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: stockpirate

I believe the Nordyke BC is authentic.

Note the left margin and tab stop alignment of the entries.

Definitely real.


18 posted on 04/28/2011 7:34:48 PM PDT by RGT
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To: whattajoke

Oh...I see. Should have read the whole article. The way it was presented here seemed to portray the opposite message.


19 posted on 04/28/2011 7:36:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: John Valentine
The name of this hospital in 1969 and right up until 1971 was: Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

OK, so there aren't 100 errors in this new birth certificate, there are only 99.

I feel so much better now.

20 posted on 04/28/2011 7:37:37 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Sax
The birth certificate is a red herring. Even under the most ideal circumstances it leads nowhere. Proved beyond the shadow of a doubt is not obtainable, but it distracts from the mission at hand - we have an inept, disasterous CINC who needs to be booted on the merits of his actions, not his qualifications.

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21 posted on 04/28/2011 7:37:37 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: cynwoody

LOL- ive seen so many BC’s that im not sure that is the twins or the ones that were changed— now that would be funny if hussein forged the wrong hospital name on the BC..who has the original?


22 posted on 04/28/2011 7:39:09 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: chicken head

I could have swore that the twins said Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital in the beginning


23 posted on 04/28/2011 7:40:40 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: RobinMasters

A FReeper had a couple kids there around that time, and confirms the name on the BC as correct.

I do wish these self-important twits would shut up about minor discrepancies they don’t understand. Just because it doesn’t make instant sense to you doesn’t mean it’s incontrovertible proof of a conspiracy.


24 posted on 04/28/2011 7:43:27 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: whattajoke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapiolani_Medical_Center_for_Women_and_Children


25 posted on 04/28/2011 7:47:08 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: John Valentine

Can you look at your child’s BC and see if the stamp at the bottom says “The” or Txe”?

Also the name of the Registrar. Thanks.


26 posted on 04/28/2011 7:48:22 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: RobinMasters
If you compare how Stanley Ann writes the her maiden name "Dunham" on the Certificate of Live Birth and compare it to this example, you will see there is no comparison:

My question is, whose signature is on the Certificate of Live Birth?

27 posted on 04/28/2011 7:50:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Sax
Kapiʻolani It is interesting that the person typing the birth certificate, (assuming they were Hawaiian or of Hawaiian descent) did not type the name of the hospital as shown above. Why would they not have included the apostrophe between the letter "i" and the letter "o". Can one of our Freepers from Hawaii explain this error?
28 posted on 04/28/2011 7:52:16 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: RobinMasters

Another bubble burst!

I always thought the KGB did better conterfeit documents than this latest horrid example.

The Manchurian Candidate should get his money back.


29 posted on 04/28/2011 7:59:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: RobinMasters
There was no embarrassing info on the easy-to-forge, low-resolution digital scan that is now alleged to be the true BC.

That is why we know it is PROBABLY a fake.

There was no reason to fight for 2+ years and spend 2+ $million to hide the BC if the innocuous one they produced is real.

30 posted on 04/28/2011 8:01:02 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: LucyT; null and void

ping


31 posted on 04/28/2011 8:11:14 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: Sax
...it distracts from the mission at hand - we have an inept, disasterous CINC who needs to be booted on the merits of his actions, not his qualifications.

Shouldn't he be "booted" based on the merits of his actions in committing fraud?

Obama should be impeached.

If any Republican pulled his stunt, there'd be riots in the streets calling for impeachment.

32 posted on 04/28/2011 8:22:19 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64
Shouldn't he be "booted" based on the merits of his actions in committing fraud?

True, not true - what I'm saying is that it will NEVER be proven and/or accepted as proven. That's my personal take. So, you move forward under that assumption, and attack the things that are undefensable - his actions since taking office. Maybe that's an argument from a realist perspective vs. an idealist perspective, but I feel like it's the best way to avoid a trap and misdirection. We're talking about the movement and mindset of masses of people, that cannot turn on a dime or stick on a single point. Politics are a sick and lowest common demoninator activity - it's been exposed as such to it's barest elements. To deny this is to put yourself on the sidelines of effectiveness. You can be an idealist, and pull support away from a positive trend, or you can support a positive trend. I understand if being an idealist gives you personal peace, but it will not effect the realities of what WILL happen and the limitation of what you can force to happen.

33 posted on 04/28/2011 8:51:06 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Mr. Wright
Kapiʻolani It is interesting that the person typing the birth certificate, (assuming they were Hawaiian or of Hawaiian descent) did not type the name of the hospital as shown above. Why would they not have included the apostrophe between the letter "i" and the letter "o". Can one of our Freepers from Hawaii explain this error?

The use of the apostrophe in Kapiolani and Hawaii (Hawai'i) is an affectation created by a new orthography. In my personal experience in the Pacific in the seventies, all the Pacific Island languages got a makeover, the spelling becoming more phonetic, So Hawaii pronounced by non-native speakers as Huh-WHY is now commonly spoken as Hah-VHY-ee. The apostrophe makes the preceding vowel cut off short. I the past Americans spelled Puerto Rico as Porto Rico, even though native Spanish speakers always pronounced it correctly.

34 posted on 04/28/2011 9:16:25 PM PDT by Procyon (Collective bargaining in the public sector is less a negotiation than a conspiracy to steal money.)
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To: stockpirate
Could the Nordake BC’s be plants?

Very doubtful. Mine says that too, and I was also born there in that timeframe. Different OBGYN.

35 posted on 04/28/2011 9:37:08 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Mr. Wright
Kapiʻolani It is interesting that the person typing the birth certificate, (assuming they were Hawaiian or of Hawaiian descent) did not type the name of the hospital as shown above. Why would they not have included the apostrophe between the letter "i" and the letter "o". Can one of our Freepers from Hawaii explain this error?

Including the additional punctuation did not become common until much later, 70s at the earliest. It is how we told haoles from locals...if you pronounced it properly.

36 posted on 04/28/2011 9:41:07 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Procyon

Thank you for the clarification


37 posted on 04/28/2011 9:41:33 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Sax

Do you mean qualifications and eligibility has no importance as to getting a job, especially the most important one of POTUSA? I don’t know of any civil service job without satisfying these. I agree that there are very importantant and critical political tasks besides the eligibility/qualification but I’m not for disregarding the root of the problems.


38 posted on 04/28/2011 9:54:45 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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