Posted on 04/29/2011 1:05:51 PM PDT by Qbert
oh PULEEEEZE!!
why? they just disinigrate.
“we better marry someone whose culture, family, and friends also value marriage (i.e., someone not born here...as a start).”
Absolutely; I married a girl (Catholic like me) whose brothers or father would kill her for that. At the same time, they’d kill me if I deserved it. No sweat; we proogate the species (a few times over).
“Absolutely; I married a girl (Catholic like me) whose brothers or father would kill her for that. At the same time, they’d kill me if I deserved it. No sweat; we proogate the species (a few times over).”
Nice move, I was hoping that there were a few families like that left.
I thought the payer could ask for receipts; seriously.
“I feel for you, being raised by a FReeper, I’m sure they’re the ‘other’ 50% who really want nice, stable lives and families. But they have to contend with the fact that good men are now afraid to get near them.”
That’s true, and a damned shame. A female friend of mine is in her early thirties, and she says she and her friends don’t need to meet a lot of nice guys; just one. If I was to marry an American girl (I didn’t), there would be a 500 page pre-nuptial agreement.
“I doubt that many of them get married with the idea that they will have a few kids and then divorce their husbands for the money. It just sort of works out that way.”
They get married knowing it is an option; the guy risks a lot more. Now that he also knows it is an option FOR HER, he simply doesn’t get married. Like it or not, that is the unintended consequence; the American birthrate plummets to Western European levels, and we import people from around the world to replace the children Americans won’t have.
My friend's ex-wife had the kids spending most of their time at his place, since having the kids around cramped her dating style. He fed them most nights, and bought their clothing. That didn't stop her from feeling entitled to the child support checks.
After a couple of years, he managed to convince her to let him have full custody, and the child support checks stopped. She was working, but there was no talk of HER paying child support -- he knew not to push his luck.
A good percentage of "deadbeat" dads don't pay child support because they have no income to pay it with. Losing your job does not reduce your child support payment expectations. If the only work you can get pays less than your child support payments, that's also your tough luck.
Simpler solution: the wife gets to pick a number for the amount of child support. The husband gets to decide whether to pay it OR TAKE CUSTODY OF THE KIDS.
>>After a couple of years, he managed to convince her to let him have full custody, and the child support checks stopped. She was working, but there was no talk of HER paying child support — he knew not to push his luck.<<
I did the same thing. Except I convinced a COURT. She was unreasonable from day one, and still is. Her attorney made a fool of herself in court because she could not believe a non-attorney could actually win and dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s without an attorney.
The divorce CREATED an entitlement mentality in my ex. It does in a LOT of women. What started in the ghetto has spread to the middle and upper class. It is this: It is challenging to live with another human being. You do not always agree on everything. Why do it when you can get the government to force him out. And they will (via the power of the gun) force him to continue to support you and his children, even though he has been kicked out of his own home without cause, and even give you most of his stuff up front.
In the ghetto there is an extra incentive for women to avoid marriage. It is welfare. Why marry your baby daddy when his biggest competition is the government. the gov won’t drink away the money. It won’t gamble away the money. It won’t argue with you. It won’t beat you. You can do whatever you want without arguing with a spouse. Heck, I think I want that. JK
The government screws up pretty much everything it touches, socially.
No way! Biomom is free to do what she wants with CS and then have the kiddies running around in rags. Seen it with my hubby and his ex (who by the way is a Child protective worker with her county) Another thing that should be outlawed: Parental Alienation tactics. Where (usually) the biomom starts trashing dad ESPECIALLY if he DARES to have another love interest even YEARS after the divorce!! Here in "biomom wins the lottery" NYS, also NJ, MA and CA, CS continues till 21 at least with mandatory 50% payment of college.
hmm well lets see. I didn’t leave my husband of 30 years he had affairs and children with another woman I found out about.I did not have any affairs as I was at HOME taking care of the children WE had together. We would still be together if he had not slept with soneone else and had TWO children with this woman who knew he was married. I could have gotten him courtmarshalled with the Army but that would have affected me and the kids adversely, so I did not.I was a stay at home mom until this happened and I found a job within a month and took care of me and my girls. We did have an agreement between us, but he quit paying and since it is across state lines it took a while to get child support started through the court system. I have child support enforcement because this deadbeat dad does not pay unless he is made to. This month I got a suprise though, the court ordered payment was 200 short. I will be contacting child support enforcement tomorrow morning as it is set up for a once a month payment as he is retired now. If he would be decent to me and our children I would contact him. but I am not speaking to that woman about my kids.If they put him in jail. oh well. I will go to visit him though just to let him see me on the right side of the bars and him on the other side :)
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