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Feds sting Amish farmer selling raw milk locally
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/28/feds-sting-amish-farmer-selling-raw-milk-locally/ ^

Posted on 04/29/2011 4:43:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws

A yearlong sting operation, including aliases, a 5 a.m. surprise inspection and surreptitious purchases from an Amish farm in Pennsylvania, culminated in the federal government announcing this week that it has gone to court to stop Rainbow Acres Farm from selling its contraband to willing customers in the Washington area.

The product in question: unpasteurized milk.

It’s a battle that’s been going on behind the scenes for years, with natural foods advocates arguing that raw milk, as it’s also known, is healthier than the pasteurized product, while the Food and Drug Administration says raw milk can carry harmful bacteria such as salmonella, E. coli and listeria.

“It is the FDA’s position that raw milk should never be consumed,” said Tamara N. Ward, spokeswoman for the FDA...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amish; fda; foodpolice; rainbowacresfarm; rawmilk; unpasteurizedmilk
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1 posted on 04/29/2011 4:43:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Did they shoot the dogs? Yet?


2 posted on 04/29/2011 4:46:02 PM PDT by allmost
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To: TigerClaws

Simple remedy, Jury Nullification.

It only takes ONE juror.


3 posted on 04/29/2011 4:48:51 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: allmost

Did they shoot the cows yet?


4 posted on 04/29/2011 4:49:27 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: allmost

Naw its hard to deliver milk when they shoot your horse though. Goddamn Feds ain’t go nothing better to do we need to cut their man power and save some money.


5 posted on 04/29/2011 4:50:59 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: TigerClaws
My position is that there is no power delegated to the federal government to regulate milk made and consumed within a state. I challenge the FDA to show me where in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution that the States delegated the power to regulate milk. Ain't there.

/johnny

6 posted on 04/29/2011 4:51:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigerClaws
It is the FDA’s position that raw milk should never be consumed

I drank it as a kid. I thought it was nasty.

And look how I turned out.

Coincidence? I think not.

7 posted on 04/29/2011 4:52:41 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: TigerClaws
“It is the FDA’s position that raw milk should never be consumed,” said Tamara N. Ward, spokeswoman for the FDA..."

It is Joe 6-pack's position that bureaucratic busybodies should mind their own damn business.

8 posted on 04/29/2011 4:52:59 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Shooting livestock that we all need to live presents too many questions.


9 posted on 04/29/2011 4:53:38 PM PDT by allmost
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To: TigerClaws

Bitch set me up!


10 posted on 04/29/2011 4:54:04 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: TigerClaws
When we lived in Wisconsin, every farmer sells the locals his milk from the bulk tank for $1.00 per gallon. You just don't talk about it.

Fill, drink, and shut-up.

11 posted on 04/29/2011 4:54:04 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TigerClaws

I grew up on raw milk from an infant until 18. It was so hard to get used to store bought milk. Would love to have a glass of raw milk again because I have forgotten what it tasted like.


12 posted on 04/29/2011 4:56:46 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: billorites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg


13 posted on 04/29/2011 4:57:31 PM PDT by neodad (Don't Tap, Just Drill!)
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To: TigerClaws

Thousands have died or been made sick by this criminal Amish Farmer who has been busted for selling MILK.

While thousands of acres of our National Parks are dangerous to walk in because of Marijuana growers, the Feds have been spending thousands of man hours trapping this Amish Farmer.

“It is the FDA’s position that raw milk should never be consumed,”

The FDA wants us all to drink the chalky crap they put out which has been robbed of all of it’s nutrients by stripping it of cream,skimming it, for making butter and dried Creamer for coffee, By the time we get it there isn’t much left.

Big brother is doing us a favor and saving us from ourselves, while outlawing growing tobacco but allowing marijuana. By saving us from a farmer who produces real milk and elling us left over scraps from the pasteurization and skimming process.

Shame on any farmer trying to make a buck without government interference. I am old enough to remember when we had to shake our milk to get the cream back in it before drinking it or skimming the cream off ourselves. Not to worry now, we don’t have to shake it now, everything is already been skimmed.


14 posted on 04/29/2011 4:59:48 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: MagnoliaB

Now if you’re talking raw milk, remember springtime raw milk on grass fed cows and the onion taste from all the spring onion grass? Yech! Ruined many a bowl of cereal!


15 posted on 04/29/2011 5:00:12 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TigerClaws
Me? I blame the cows. Our cows always gave pasteurized milk and even put it in glass bottles for us.
16 posted on 04/29/2011 5:00:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: TigerClaws

Ya gotta watch those Amish...assassinations...human bombs...lying about their birth certificates...selling natural milk.

The very idea.


17 posted on 04/29/2011 5:01:33 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: blackdog

Oh yes! That’s when we drank powdered milk which barely tastes like milk but I still keep it on hand.
How about dipping the cream off the top of every gallon for a week and making ice cream with it? You know, when the cream rises to the top. LOL! Lots of people don’t realize where that saying came from.


18 posted on 04/29/2011 5:07:28 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Venturer
Actually I switched to Kroger Almond Milk about a year ago. I am a big milk drinker and it was giving me problems with joint pain.

Kroger took a little while to get the formulation and process just right, but it is outstanding, inexpensive, and does not sour.

I need to give up cheese and yogurt as well. I switched to really expensive aged Vermont Cheddar @ $18 per pound, so I really did cut back on amount I consume. Yogurt I just had to give up.

19 posted on 04/29/2011 5:07:40 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah boy. Because we all know what a threat those Amish can be to National Security.


20 posted on 04/29/2011 5:08:01 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: blackdog

It was the food of the gods. Even if it did taste like spring onions. I am talking about my grandparents. And they made butter and cottage cheese, hung in a cloth bag on the clothesline that dripped; the Old Tom Cat always sat beneath licking up the puddles.

and the cream rising to the top of your glass -— heaven!


21 posted on 04/29/2011 5:08:23 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: TigerClaws

My mother, for a while, insisted on drinking raw milk. That lasted maybe 2 or 3 years.

Personally, I would never choose to drink it. But I don’t see any reason why farmers who document regular veterinary testing for tuberculosis and other infectious diseases shouldn’t be able to sell the raw milk. There should probably be a warning label affixed, as well. People who want to drink it should be allowed to.


22 posted on 04/29/2011 5:10:20 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: MagnoliaB

I worked at a producer of dry milk. I maintained the machines which rewet the powder, add emulsifiers and vitamins, hot-bed dry it into those little granules, and package it. I still have hundreds of pounds of dry milk, and the only way I could drink it is in a disaster emergency. It’s awful. I always found it odd that they dehydrate the milk powder base in California, then ship that by rail and truck all the way to Wisconsin, just to rewet it and dry it back down all over again?


23 posted on 04/29/2011 5:13:44 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: patriot preacher
If they could make raw milk into sushi they would place it on every menu in Washington DC, and nobody would care about this matter anymore.

It's a very, very goofy country, stood on it's head.

24 posted on 04/29/2011 5:17:12 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: MagnoliaB
I hear ya! I grew up drinking it, too, as did my dad and his dad, all my aunts and uncles, all our neighbors and friends. NOT ONE of us ever got sick. The FDA can go to hell.

To this day I crave raw milk like crazy. Used to drink two gallons a day of it when I was a growing boy. It was no problem because Mitsy and Millie (my uncle's milk cows) kept the family swimming in 20 gallons a day. There was never a shortage of milk, even with 12 kids, adults and ranch hands to feed. And you didn't have to worry about the kids overdosing on vitamin D.

25 posted on 04/29/2011 5:17:42 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: TigerClaws
"...while the Food and Drug Administration says raw milk can carry harmful bacteria such as salmonella, E. coli and listeria."

Is meat and poultry to be banned next? Quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me.

The government has no damned business stopping food commerce between consenting adults, for the love of pete.

26 posted on 04/29/2011 5:18:49 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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"while the Food and Drug Administration says raw milk can carry harmful bacteria such as salmonella, E. coli and listeria."

As can the air, water, and soil. So are we to stop breathing, swimming, and planting gardens?

27 posted on 04/29/2011 5:19:28 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: humblegunner
"Coincidence? I think not."

Now that you mention it ... holy cow!!

28 posted on 04/29/2011 5:20:02 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: TigerClaws

Is this one of the important pieces of business that was suffering because the Birth Cert issue was distracting Obama?


29 posted on 04/29/2011 5:23:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: TigerClaws
My grandmother died at 93 and drank fresh milk from her cows her entire adult life. She also made buttermilk, butter and cheese from that same milk.
30 posted on 04/29/2011 5:23:53 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: TigerClaws

The Liberal Messiah won’t go after terrorists, but He’ll protect us from those scary Amish farmers.


31 posted on 04/29/2011 5:23:57 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: squarebarb
Seems to me that cheese made with milk that tasted of green onions would be kinda interesting.

This thread has made me pour 2 ounces of whipping cream into my glass of milk. Oh, the mustache THAT makes! :)

32 posted on 04/29/2011 5:24:07 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: TigerClaws

Someone tied it all together, figuring out that there is a philosophy behind what the FDA is doing. It is best described as a neurotic fear of anyone consuming any form of living cells: plant, animal, or microbial.

They are strong proponents of food irradiation, pasteurization, toxic antimicrobial chemicals, preservatives and additives, and any other means to prevent or discourage the consumption of living cells of any kind.

Importantly, do not try to figure out a logical or scientific rationale to a neurotic phobia, because there is none, or it is based on reckless extrapolation of a real threat. Nor will statistics or common sense prevail over those with irrational fear.

Someone biting into a washed, but otherwise freshly picked ripe apple off a tree, will make such people hysterical and faint, because of the potential horrific diseases they imagine might be contained in a living apple. Instead, they promulgate rules so that such apples must be pressure cooked until mush, then treated with harsh chemicals to keep them from being tainted by bacteria in the air before they can be consumed.

Raw milk? Nuke it from space. It’s the only way to be sure.

I wish that the only mentally ill, neurotic and insane people in our government were limited to just this, but I’m afraid that the truth is that it is widespread. Several phobias and neuroses have their own federal agencies, solely to exercise and justify their malfunctions.


33 posted on 04/29/2011 5:24:18 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: exDemMom
"People who want to drink it should be allowed to without government regulation and warning labels.

Sorry, I had to work on your sentence a bit. The people buying this man's milk know what they are getting and why. The government ought to stay out of it.

If customers want documentation and warnings, the market will take care of it. What a concept!

34 posted on 04/29/2011 5:28:07 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: blackdog

If you garden, tomato plants being set out love some dry milk in the soil. IIRC, it is the potassium.


35 posted on 04/29/2011 5:29:18 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: TigerClaws

Free people should be able to choose their own milk provider.
Apparently, when it comes to milk, our freedom is denied. The fed shall decide what is best for us.

Time to sting the feds with a humongous budget cut.


36 posted on 04/29/2011 5:34:36 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: humblegunner

***I drank it as a kid. I thought it was nasty.****

You aught to try raw milk when the cow has been eating wild onions!


37 posted on 04/29/2011 5:34:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: TigerClaws
Yeah, ever since the Amish took up bowling and smoking. See where it led???

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38 posted on 04/29/2011 5:38:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Venturer

*** I am old enough to remember when we had to shake our milk to get the cream back in it before drinking it or skimming the cream off ourselves. Not to worry now, we don’t have to shake it now, everything is already been skimmed.***

Most regular milk has not been skimmed, but homogonized to break up the cream fats and blend with the milk, then pasturized.

I still remember skimming raw Jersy cow milk with about two to three inches of cream per gallon to make home made butter.

Jersy milk beats Holstein milk by a mile!


39 posted on 04/29/2011 5:40:05 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I did that years ago. The dogs dug up my tomato plants and ate all the dirt mixed with milk. Thanks for the tip though. I had a white german shepherd years ago who used to eat all the ripe tomatoes off our plants. The next year we would have tomato plants growing all over the yards, gardens, fields, etc.....Obviously tomato seeds can survive the canine digestive system. As a matter of fact, those did better than the ones I planted. The dog was like Johnny Crapple-Seed.


40 posted on 04/29/2011 5:50:00 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TigerClaws

An example of the federal government making a crime out of nothing.

I’m sure, a “law-and-order” conservative can explain to me how the guy is probably really a terrorist, though.

Maybe a Hannity-esque appeal to emotion and authority would be amusing.


41 posted on 04/29/2011 5:55:48 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Amen on the Jersey v Holstein debate.

Homogenized milk is not good for you. The fat particles are digested differently than whole milk and when comparing diets and blood chemistry of the two milks, the cholesterol levels from homogenized milk are way higher than raw milk. They are broken up too small if my memory serves me. They(homogenized fat particles) are not recognized as LDL's and plaque you up like deep fried corndogs wrapped in bacon.

42 posted on 04/29/2011 5:55:48 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: MichiganConservative
IMHO this is about something else. The Amish in Pennsylvania have been under a state of one sided war with government for decades now. They want them out. Many have moved to Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Illinois.

I think it's a land use issue.

43 posted on 04/29/2011 5:58:59 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

Why do they want them out? Do they think that it would be better to have other serfs, er, people have the land for malls or other higher tax generating purposes?


44 posted on 04/29/2011 6:01:56 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: TigerClaws

I wonder how many millions the Fed blew on this investigation. Meanwhile we have criminal gangs like MS13 running guns and drugs, and the Feds themselves running guns to Mexico. Just lovely.


45 posted on 04/29/2011 6:03:02 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: TigerClaws

I wonder how many millions the Fed blew on this investigation. Meanwhile we have criminal gangs like MS13 running guns and drugs, and the Feds themselves running guns to Mexico. Just lovely.


46 posted on 04/29/2011 6:03:04 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: MagnoliaB

We to buy raw milk here for $8.00 per gallon. It’s great stuff.

Ironically, throughout most of our ‘great’ nation it’s easier to find a bottle of 100 proof Vodka or an abortion clinic than a place that legally sells raw milk.

Insane.


47 posted on 04/29/2011 6:03:09 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: humblegunner

I stayed on a small farm once when I was a kid. I loved the raw milk.

And I offer a belated apology for spooning off the cream.


48 posted on 04/29/2011 6:05:04 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Loyal Sedition
Unfortunately, people who can think for themselves never make it through voir dire.
49 posted on 04/29/2011 6:05:54 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: MichiganConservative

Buiding permits, housing units, malls, schools, and fast food islands mixed with an Olive Garden and medical complexes help feed the machine. Many of the municipalities have gross receipts taxes in that area. Farms are exempt.


50 posted on 04/29/2011 6:06:45 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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