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Posted on 04/29/2011 4:57:43 PM PDT by JosephSmithNAW
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Right..as a small business owner, anti-union, pro tea party member, I sure fit the mold of a communist. You got me (heavy sarcasm).
It just dawned on me that common sense doesn’t fit into your dogma. There is no need for SOME of these weapons to be in the hands of non-military personnel. Taking away some of these assault weapons will do NOTHING to your personal rights to arm yourself, hunt, defend your property, etc. Nothing.
I doubt you really know what you believe.
From your insipid posts on this topic, it's obvious you're way over your head here.
"Common sense" gun control, where have I heard that loaded phrase? Oh that's right from the communists who want to disarm the citizenry.
You're just another concern troll.
Once again Fred it is the BILL OF RIGHTS not BILL OF NEEDS.
The word “infringed” should mean the same in Liberalville as it does in Texas.
You still haven’t looked at the ban bill have you?
For that matter you still haven’t read or cannot understand the Second Amendment.
Your fear of guns should not ever affect anyone’s RIGHT to own them.
Actually I have no desire to disarm the country at all. I OWN A GUN...why would I want to disarm myself? Good grief.
That being said, I don’t think citizens should have military style assault weapons. You disagree. That doesn’t make me a communist or you the supreme commander.
We’ll agree to disagree.
Eaker, I have no fear of guns...I own one. Maybe you should get your facts straight before pretending to know where people are on the subject.
Incidentally, at what point is it enough? Stinger missile? Flame thrower? Etc? Do you draw the line anywhere?
The old should everyone be allowed to have a nuclear bomb in their basement argument.
I don’t know about a stinger missile but legally there is no problem with me owning a cannon or flame thrower or a full auto weapon. See the assault weapon ban doesn’t apply to these items just semi auto’s like a .22 rifle.
This is what I mean by you needing to do some research.
It’s probably a silly argument, but I’d tend to think “arms” should be stuff one person can reasonably be expected to be able to carry. Arms, carry. See?
Like I said, it’s probably silly.
What you said but to be equal to what a front line infantry man is expected to carry on today’s battlefield.
Not a single shot .22 for hunting rabbits like gun grabbers want it to mean.
Actually, “not to be infringed” really does mean what it says.
Well agree to disagree.
You want to infringe on my rights based on nothing more than your feelings. You can't even articulate one persuasive reason why they should be restricted.
I, on the other hand, don't wish to require you to own one.
That makes you the tyrant in this exchange. You don't have the right to be free from irrational fears, and you sure as have don't have any right to limit mine to make it so.
I've heard the "common sense gun control" argument since I was a young man, 25 years ago, when the "assault weapon ban" was first floated. The arguments failed then, and they fail now, even more so since an AW Ban was law of the land for 10 years and made no measurable difference in crime rates.
And that's according the DOJ.
You agree with your neighbor, DiFi, the original AW Banner. Fellow travelers need to stick together.
I’ve done my research. I own my weapon. You claimed I was afraid of them...you were wrong. I think common sense needs to come into play for you and trailerpark dude in the other response. Why would you need a flame thrower? What is the purpose?
It seems to me that your argument and trailerpark dude is simply BECAUSE I CAN. Or, you argue that if we let the gov’t not allow us to have assault weapons then by God, what are they going to take next. The old “give an inch they take a mile” argument.
Well, each to his own. Plenty of adults can live with the idea of owning weapons for sport or defense of their homes, lives, etc without resorting to it being a weapon that was designed solely for use by a professional soldier. Again, you disagree and by doing so you start calling people stupid or communists or unAmerican. Whatever.
a weapon that was designed solely for use by a professional soldier.
Oh, clearly you haven't. You do understand that our soldiers use full auto M-16's and that M-16's are not covered by your ban don't you? However it does cover many SEMI autos like the AR-15 which our soldiers do not use.
Oh wait, you said you have done your research and know this so you are lying?
Once again it is the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
Posting to you is like showing a chicken a card trick.
LOL. First you said I’m scare of guns, yet I own a gun. You were wrong.
Now you call it “my ban”...nice.
Not my ban. You don’t need AK47’s anymore than you need a flamethrower, RPG, grenades, mines in fromt of your house or what have you.
This is purely you and others running scared that if they take “these away they’ll take them all away”. That will never happen. To many of us that have guns to let that happen. Just as there are too many people with common sense to know there is no reason to have some of these assault weapons allowed for private citizens.
Are there some guns on the list that probably shouldn’t be? Yup. That’s your argument and a valid one. But something tells me that you wouldn’t be satisfied until nothing was on the list. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
Trailerpark, our rights are infringed on every day, sorry to bring that to your attention.
You are not allowed to have a tank....are you screaming about your rights? You are not allowed to snort cocaine all day long...are you screaming about your rights?
We have laws in this country that are brought into being by the officials we elect via a Republic form of Democracy. I’m sorry if you feel your rights are crushed here, but for the common good laws sometimes do that. Most people that aren’t on the fringes realize this. We can agree to disagree on the merits.
I have given a reason...they are unnecessary to have these types of weapons in the hands of general public. What is the purpose of having a fully automatic assault weapon? Are the Canadians invading and you may need it to ward off attacks? There is ZERO good reason to have them. NONE. Please provide one if there is.
I’m all for keeping most weapons free and legal to buy and own. Not these as I have yet to see a single reason why people should have them other than “IT’S MY RIGHT”. Well, it’s not if laws are passed that are constitutional and say you don’t have that right.
There can you hear THAT Sarah Brady?
For the last time moron, full auto weapons are NOT covered by the ban that the liberals like you love. In a real State like Texas all one has to do is pay a $200.00 tax and fill out some paperwork then you can have one. Scares the pants right off you doesn't it?
That is so simple that even a Barney Fife or Barney Frank should be able to understand.
The other thing is that real Americans don't care what Sarah Brady and you think because you are incapable of thinking as you are both brainless and nutless.
I doubt that you even have a gun. You lied about having done any research so why would I believe you have gun. A lace doily yes, gun no.
As I said, you're out of your league. The assault weapon bans being discussed have nothing to do with fully automatic weapons. Either you're ignorant of the issue or you're dissembling. Second, rights, natural rights and those guaranteed by the BOR, do not need to be justified; that would make them privileges.
But to humor you, I need them for the same reason the police need them. As they say, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Apparently you are unaware of several recent breakdowns in civil order: Katrina, Rodney King riots, the recent tornados in the SE, where looters are roaming rural areas with LE that is stretched thin. I'll bet you live within shouting distance of a police precinct; many of us don't.
That being said, your inability to imagine a good reason for me to own a particular firearm is not the same thing as a persuasive argument against my being allowed to own it. Sorry that you think it is.
Flamethrowers aren't eeven regulated, you fool.
Have the self respect to keep out of issue you know nothing of, other than your feelings.
You are so intellectually flaccid, you must be a liberal.
Flaccid? I’ll bet you use that word a lot.
Flamethrowers may not be regulated, but there are laws on the books making them illegal in most states.
They are fun to shoot.
Everyone except for a gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-faggot metro-sexual would know that.
Now 'lil fella you ought to go have a white wine with your girlfriends and discuss waxing or men or what ever y'all babble to each other about while the men are out shooting guns.
Now you're just making crap up.
Are you suggesting that a gun grabbing liberal would lie?
Well damn, my eyes are open now!
Really? What kind of gun do you own?
Eaker...you certainly sound like a Christian, I’ll say that (Eyes rolling).
I’m happily married, two children (boy and a girl), live in Orange County (one of the most conservative places in the USA).
May God bless you. Have a good one. It’s people like you that allow liberals and Democrats to be in power because they see you as the face of the GOP. Sad, but true.
No it is liberals like you who keep the democrats in power because you agree with them on so many issues. This is why conservatives have to point out your hypocrisy on every occasion. Unlike liberals conservatives don’t believe the Constitution is a grocery list where you can pick and choose.
Thank God more Americans are not willing to just give away others freedoms like you choose to do.
I hope you aren’t as foolish and wrong on every issue discussed on FR as you are on the Second Amendment. BTW, did you ever bother reading it? It is very short and shouldn’t take you more than a half hour or so.
God Bless you Eaker. Truly, I hope you find Christ in your life and can live up to his ideals.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to be conservative, own my gun, support gun rights but there is a point of common sense...one that overcomes “it’s fun to shoot”.
Have a good one.
Don't judge me. You haven't earned the right and never will. Hypocrite.
Instead of pretending to hand out blessings perhaps you should do a little house cleaning of your own.
.one that overcomes its fun to shoot.
You said there was no reason and then asked me to give you a reason and I did.
If you wanted two reasons you shouldn't have so stupidly asked for just one.
On this single thread you have proven yourself to be a false Christian, a fool and a liar. That should be enough for anyone even a liberal.
You say don’t judge you yet you’ve gone out and called me a liberal, a liar, a communist, etc. Pot meet Kettle.
May God Bless you...seriously
Worry about yourself ... seriously.
I’ve got my act together but based on your postings...well....may God Bless you.
Happy Mother’s Day
For your sake I hope God really does look out for children and fools.
You certainly need looking out for whether it is God or government as you don’t seem to be up to the task.
Part of being an American is to be ready to defend one’s freedom even against one’s own government. Had it been up to people like you the British would have had superior weapons and this would still be a colony.
A colony of sheep.
Exactly....so why don’t you go stock up on some claymores, some mines, etc, etc...prepare yourself to defend against the gov’t.
Keep bleating lil fella.
We men are here so we don’t need you.
LOL. Yes, and you’ve done so well at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc in your battles against the Gov’t. Good Lord some of you are fruitcakes.
But hey, Happy Mother’s Day...you’ve earned it.
We are not so far apart on this issue. The real difference is that you are a metrosexual and I am not.
You are willing to give away part of the Second Amendment and too stupid to understand that this is a start to giving away all or part of the rest.
We don’t need all of those guns that are not even part of the ban that started this discourse? Maybe we don’t need all of those freedoms of speech or freedoms of religion either.
I realize a national gun ban doesn’t affect you there in California as you already have one. Good for you Romneybot.
Now go find the hidden eggs or what ever you butt packers do on Mother’s Day. Think positive, maybe on Fathers Day your wife will let you take your nuts out of her purse for a while.
She might even let you use the car!
Yeah...a metrosexual. LOL. Married, two kids, to a Californian babe...living here in Orange County, one of the most conservative areas of the country. I own two trucks, a gun, etc....yup...I’m a metrosexual. LOL.
Keep digging sunshine. You are a piece of work.
Keep telling yourself that wee liberal gun grabber.
You probably voted for the liberals that enacted the gun ban there on Cali.