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Michelle Bachmann in the primaries. What say you guys?
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Posted on 04/29/2011 4:57:43 PM PDT by JosephSmithNAW

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To: Trailerpark Badass

Right..as a small business owner, anti-union, pro tea party member, I sure fit the mold of a communist. You got me (heavy sarcasm).


151 posted on 05/01/2011 8:35:59 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Eaker

It just dawned on me that common sense doesn’t fit into your dogma. There is no need for SOME of these weapons to be in the hands of non-military personnel. Taking away some of these assault weapons will do NOTHING to your personal rights to arm yourself, hunt, defend your property, etc. Nothing.


152 posted on 05/01/2011 8:38:29 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
I don't care what you call yourself.

I doubt you really know what you believe.

From your insipid posts on this topic, it's obvious you're way over your head here.

153 posted on 05/02/2011 9:00:45 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred
It just dawned on me that common sense doesn’t fit into your dogma.

"Common sense" gun control, where have I heard that loaded phrase? Oh that's right from the communists who want to disarm the citizenry.

You're just another concern troll.

154 posted on 05/02/2011 9:02:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred

Once again Fred it is the BILL OF RIGHTS not BILL OF NEEDS.

The word “infringed” should mean the same in Liberalville as it does in Texas.

You still haven’t looked at the ban bill have you?

For that matter you still haven’t read or cannot understand the Second Amendment.

Your fear of guns should not ever affect anyone’s RIGHT to own them.


155 posted on 05/02/2011 9:34:23 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Actually I have no desire to disarm the country at all. I OWN A GUN...why would I want to disarm myself? Good grief.

That being said, I don’t think citizens should have military style assault weapons. You disagree. That doesn’t make me a communist or you the supreme commander.

We’ll agree to disagree.


156 posted on 05/02/2011 1:11:01 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Eaker

Eaker, I have no fear of guns...I own one. Maybe you should get your facts straight before pretending to know where people are on the subject.

Incidentally, at what point is it enough? Stinger missile? Flame thrower? Etc? Do you draw the line anywhere?


157 posted on 05/02/2011 1:33:20 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

LOL!

The old should everyone be allowed to have a nuclear bomb in their basement argument.

I don’t know about a stinger missile but legally there is no problem with me owning a cannon or flame thrower or a full auto weapon. See the assault weapon ban doesn’t apply to these items just semi auto’s like a .22 rifle.

This is what I mean by you needing to do some research.


158 posted on 05/02/2011 3:01:22 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

It’s probably a silly argument, but I’d tend to think “arms” should be stuff one person can reasonably be expected to be able to carry. Arms, carry. See?

Like I said, it’s probably silly.


159 posted on 05/02/2011 3:08:53 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: savedbygrace

What you said but to be equal to what a front line infantry man is expected to carry on today’s battlefield.

Not a single shot .22 for hunting rabbits like gun grabbers want it to mean.

Actually, “not to be infringed” really does mean what it says.


160 posted on 05/02/2011 3:17:03 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

Agree 100%.


161 posted on 05/02/2011 3:20:55 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: SideoutFred
That being said, I don’t think citizens should have military style assault weapons. You disagree. That doesn’t make me a communist or you the supreme commander.

We’ll agree to disagree.

You want to infringe on my rights based on nothing more than your feelings. You can't even articulate one persuasive reason why they should be restricted.

I, on the other hand, don't wish to require you to own one.

That makes you the tyrant in this exchange. You don't have the right to be free from irrational fears, and you sure as have don't have any right to limit mine to make it so.

I've heard the "common sense gun control" argument since I was a young man, 25 years ago, when the "assault weapon ban" was first floated. The arguments failed then, and they fail now, even more so since an AW Ban was law of the land for 10 years and made no measurable difference in crime rates.

And that's according the DOJ.

You agree with your neighbor, DiFi, the original AW Banner. Fellow travelers need to stick together.

162 posted on 05/02/2011 3:21:15 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: Eaker

I’ve done my research. I own my weapon. You claimed I was afraid of them...you were wrong. I think common sense needs to come into play for you and trailerpark dude in the other response. Why would you need a flame thrower? What is the purpose?

It seems to me that your argument and trailerpark dude is simply BECAUSE I CAN. Or, you argue that if we let the gov’t not allow us to have assault weapons then by God, what are they going to take next. The old “give an inch they take a mile” argument.

Well, each to his own. Plenty of adults can live with the idea of owning weapons for sport or defense of their homes, lives, etc without resorting to it being a weapon that was designed solely for use by a professional soldier. Again, you disagree and by doing so you start calling people stupid or communists or unAmerican. Whatever.


163 posted on 05/02/2011 11:37:56 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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I’ve done my research.

Oh, okay.

a weapon that was designed solely for use by a professional soldier.

Oh, clearly you haven't. You do understand that our soldiers use full auto M-16's and that M-16's are not covered by your ban don't you? However it does cover many SEMI autos like the AR-15 which our soldiers do not use.

Oh wait, you said you have done your research and know this so you are lying?

Once again it is the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.

Posting to you is like showing a chicken a card trick.

164 posted on 05/03/2011 6:02:39 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

LOL. First you said I’m scare of guns, yet I own a gun. You were wrong.

Now you call it “my ban”...nice.

Not my ban. You don’t need AK47’s anymore than you need a flamethrower, RPG, grenades, mines in fromt of your house or what have you.

This is purely you and others running scared that if they take “these away they’ll take them all away”. That will never happen. To many of us that have guns to let that happen. Just as there are too many people with common sense to know there is no reason to have some of these assault weapons allowed for private citizens.

Are there some guns on the list that probably shouldn’t be? Yup. That’s your argument and a valid one. But something tells me that you wouldn’t be satisfied until nothing was on the list. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it.


165 posted on 05/04/2011 12:33:13 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Trailerpark, our rights are infringed on every day, sorry to bring that to your attention.

You are not allowed to have a tank....are you screaming about your rights? You are not allowed to snort cocaine all day long...are you screaming about your rights?

We have laws in this country that are brought into being by the officials we elect via a Republic form of Democracy. I’m sorry if you feel your rights are crushed here, but for the common good laws sometimes do that. Most people that aren’t on the fringes realize this. We can agree to disagree on the merits.

I have given a reason...they are unnecessary to have these types of weapons in the hands of general public. What is the purpose of having a fully automatic assault weapon? Are the Canadians invading and you may need it to ward off attacks? There is ZERO good reason to have them. NONE. Please provide one if there is.

I’m all for keeping most weapons free and legal to buy and own. Not these as I have yet to see a single reason why people should have them other than “IT’S MY RIGHT”. Well, it’s not if laws are passed that are constitutional and say you don’t have that right.


166 posted on 05/04/2011 12:38:34 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred; sport; Trailerpark Badass
BILL OF RIGHTS NOT BILL OF NEEDS!

There can you hear THAT Sarah Brady?


167 posted on 05/04/2011 12:43:37 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: SideoutFred
What is the purpose of having a fully automatic assault weapon? Are the Canadians invading and you may need it to ward off attacks? There is ZERO good reason to have them. NONE. Please provide one if there is.

For the last time moron, full auto weapons are NOT covered by the ban that the liberals like you love. In a real State like Texas all one has to do is pay a $200.00 tax and fill out some paperwork then you can have one. Scares the pants right off you doesn't it?

That is so simple that even a Barney Fife or Barney Frank should be able to understand.

The other thing is that real Americans don't care what Sarah Brady and you think because you are incapable of thinking as you are both brainless and nutless.

I doubt that you even have a gun. You lied about having done any research so why would I believe you have gun. A lace doily yes, gun no.

168 posted on 05/04/2011 1:52:35 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: SideoutFred
I have given a reason...they are unnecessary to have these types of weapons in the hands of general public. What is the purpose of having a fully automatic assault weapon? Are the Canadians invading and you may need it to ward off attacks? There is ZERO good reason to have them. NONE. Please provide one if there is.

As I said, you're out of your league. The assault weapon bans being discussed have nothing to do with fully automatic weapons. Either you're ignorant of the issue or you're dissembling. Second, rights, natural rights and those guaranteed by the BOR, do not need to be justified; that would make them privileges.

But to humor you, I need them for the same reason the police need them. As they say, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Apparently you are unaware of several recent breakdowns in civil order: Katrina, Rodney King riots, the recent tornados in the SE, where looters are roaming rural areas with LE that is stretched thin. I'll bet you live within shouting distance of a police precinct; many of us don't.

That being said, your inability to imagine a good reason for me to own a particular firearm is not the same thing as a persuasive argument against my being allowed to own it. Sorry that you think it is.

169 posted on 05/04/2011 2:53:19 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred
a weapon that was designed solely for use by a professional soldier.

You're ignorant.

170 posted on 05/04/2011 2:55:24 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred
anymore than you need a flamethrower

Flamethrowers aren't eeven regulated, you fool.

Have the self respect to keep out of issue you know nothing of, other than your feelings.

You are so intellectually flaccid, you must be a liberal.

171 posted on 05/04/2011 2:59:22 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Flaccid? I’ll bet you use that word a lot.

Flamethrowers may not be regulated, but there are laws on the books making them illegal in most states.

Liberal? LOL.


172 posted on 05/04/2011 4:51:50 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
There is ZERO good reason to have them. NONE. Please provide one if there is.

Here's one.

They are fun to shoot.

Everyone except for a gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-faggot metro-sexual would know that.

Now 'lil fella you ought to go have a white wine with your girlfriends and discuss waxing or men or what ever y'all babble to each other about while the men are out shooting guns.

173 posted on 05/04/2011 5:02:40 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: SideoutFred
Flamethrowers may not be regulated, but there are laws on the books making them illegal in most states.

Now you're just making crap up.

174 posted on 05/04/2011 5:03:02 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred
From a better time in America's history, you could have ordered this through the mail:Photobucket
175 posted on 05/04/2011 5:26:11 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: SideoutFred
This will probably make you crap in you wee Canadian short pants. I suppose you probably want to make pulling the trigger too fast a crime too?

Semi-Auto Glock 27

176 posted on 05/04/2011 6:03:15 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; SideoutFred
Now you're just making crap up.

Are you suggesting that a gun grabbing liberal would lie?

Well damn, my eyes are open now!

177 posted on 05/04/2011 6:05:48 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: SideoutFred
I own my weapon.

Really? What kind of gun do you own?

178 posted on 05/04/2011 8:55:49 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: Eaker

Eaker...you certainly sound like a Christian, I’ll say that (Eyes rolling).

I’m happily married, two children (boy and a girl), live in Orange County (one of the most conservative places in the USA).

May God bless you. Have a good one. It’s people like you that allow liberals and Democrats to be in power because they see you as the face of the GOP. Sad, but true.


179 posted on 05/05/2011 6:17:59 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Glock 22


180 posted on 05/05/2011 6:24:16 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

No it is liberals like you who keep the democrats in power because you agree with them on so many issues. This is why conservatives have to point out your hypocrisy on every occasion. Unlike liberals conservatives don’t believe the Constitution is a grocery list where you can pick and choose.

Thank God more Americans are not willing to just give away others freedoms like you choose to do.

I hope you aren’t as foolish and wrong on every issue discussed on FR as you are on the Second Amendment. BTW, did you ever bother reading it? It is very short and shouldn’t take you more than a half hour or so.


181 posted on 05/05/2011 6:24:27 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

God Bless you Eaker. Truly, I hope you find Christ in your life and can live up to his ideals.

In the meantime, I’ll continue to be conservative, own my gun, support gun rights but there is a point of common sense...one that overcomes “it’s fun to shoot”.

Have a good one.


182 posted on 05/05/2011 6:46:10 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
Truly, I hope you find Christ in your life and can live up to his ideals.

Don't judge me. You haven't earned the right and never will. Hypocrite.

Instead of pretending to hand out blessings perhaps you should do a little house cleaning of your own.

.one that overcomes “it’s fun to shoot”.

You said there was no reason and then asked me to give you a reason and I did.

If you wanted two reasons you shouldn't have so stupidly asked for just one.

On this single thread you have proven yourself to be a false Christian, a fool and a liar. That should be enough for anyone even a liberal.

183 posted on 05/05/2011 6:56:09 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

You say don’t judge you yet you’ve gone out and called me a liberal, a liar, a communist, etc. Pot meet Kettle.

May God Bless you...seriously


184 posted on 05/06/2011 7:40:07 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
May God Bless you...seriously

Worry about yourself ... seriously.

185 posted on 05/06/2011 8:01:29 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

I’ve got my act together but based on your postings...well....may God Bless you.

Happy Mother’s Day


186 posted on 05/06/2011 11:13:03 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

For your sake I hope God really does look out for children and fools.

You certainly need looking out for whether it is God or government as you don’t seem to be up to the task.

Part of being an American is to be ready to defend one’s freedom even against one’s own government. Had it been up to people like you the British would have had superior weapons and this would still be a colony.

A colony of sheep.


187 posted on 05/07/2011 8:01:16 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

Exactly....so why don’t you go stock up on some claymores, some mines, etc, etc...prepare yourself to defend against the gov’t.

Wow...just WOW


188 posted on 05/07/2011 1:08:50 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

Keep bleating lil fella.

We men are here so we don’t need you.


189 posted on 05/07/2011 4:06:38 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

LOL. Yes, and you’ve done so well at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc in your battles against the Gov’t. Good Lord some of you are fruitcakes.

But hey, Happy Mother’s Day...you’ve earned it.


190 posted on 05/08/2011 11:07:39 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

We are not so far apart on this issue. The real difference is that you are a metrosexual and I am not.

You are willing to give away part of the Second Amendment and too stupid to understand that this is a start to giving away all or part of the rest.

We don’t need all of those guns that are not even part of the ban that started this discourse? Maybe we don’t need all of those freedoms of speech or freedoms of religion either.

I realize a national gun ban doesn’t affect you there in California as you already have one. Good for you Romneybot.

Now go find the hidden eggs or what ever you butt packers do on Mother’s Day. Think positive, maybe on Fathers Day your wife will let you take your nuts out of her purse for a while.

She might even let you use the car!


191 posted on 05/08/2011 11:45:39 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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Yeah...a metrosexual. LOL. Married, two kids, to a Californian babe...living here in Orange County, one of the most conservative areas of the country. I own two trucks, a gun, etc....yup...I’m a metrosexual. LOL.

Keep digging sunshine. You are a piece of work.


192 posted on 05/08/2011 10:44:33 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

Keep telling yourself that wee liberal gun grabber.

You probably voted for the liberals that enacted the gun ban there on Cali.


193 posted on 05/09/2011 5:56:49 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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