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Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
Examiner.com ^ | April 29, 2011 | Alfred Lambremont Webre

Posted on 04/30/2011 9:44:49 AM PDT by patlin

Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio, states that the purported birth certificate released by U.S. President Barack H. Obama on April 27, 2011 is a forensic forgery...Mr. Stanley reported the breaking news regarding the forensic fraud in Mr. Obama's newly released birth certificate on Washington Times investigative radio's America's Morning News while being interviewed by reporters John McCaslin and Amy Holmes, also a commentator for CNN.

LISTEN TO BREAKING NEWS

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/breaking%20news.mp3

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To: org.whodat

An author?

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/p2_2.htm

LOL.


51 posted on 04/30/2011 10:30:54 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: PoloSec

http://www.newids.com/hawaii-birth-certificate.htm


52 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: patlin

Nothing will happen. Obama is black, and there is no way they will risk burning cities to uphold the Constitution.


53 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: patlin

The Washington Times is one of the best news papers in the country. If they put thier name to this story it is big.


54 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: stboz

It wouldn’t be a far reach for him to go from unofficial suspension(current state) to an official suspension.

The real interesting part is if it will stand.


55 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:05 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: library user

Argument about the validity of the proffered Obama birth certificate is just more obfuscation, and the result of ill-placed focus on the birth certificate instead of the Constitutional question of the Framers’ intent of the ‘natural born’ language. The birth certificate was never anything but a red herring and it seems at the moment to be working perfectly in Obama’s favor.

With all due respect to Mr. Corsi(and I am looking forward to reading his book), the sequence of numbers of the registrations is irrelevant. It is only a matter of when the documents were submitted, and the order in which the registrar’s clerk entered them.

August 4, 1961 was a Friday. According to the released BC, Obama was born that evening after 7pm. Even assuming the paperwork at the hospital was completed immediately for both Obama and the Nordyke twins, which is a function of the hospital staff, the attending physician, and the mother, it would not be handled by the registrar’s office until the following Monday at the earliest. By that time they would all be backed up on the data entry clerk’s desk, and just taken one at a time without regard to the date/time of the child(ren)’s birth. It’s really that simple. We don’t need to conjure conspiracies.

I would point out from personal experience, my twin sons’ registrations are out of sequence. The older twin has a higher registration number than his younger brother. The information for both certificates was provided by me in the hospital; then typed in, either by hospital or the OB’s staff; then signed by the attending physician (four days after the birth), then forwarded to the Dept of Vital Records where they were received and entered (two weeks after the birth). So it is more than probable that children born after my own, whose paperwork was completed more quickly, have lower registrations numbers.


56 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:07 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: patlin

The article sounds plausibe until you get to the part about TIME TRAVEL !

Give me a break!

Maybe the next time you can read the WHOLE article before you post it?


57 posted on 04/30/2011 10:31:19 AM PDT by BB62
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To: Will88

There is nothing to the hospital name, that was all discussed 2 years ago & proven that Kapi’olani is in fact, the correct name & appears on ALL birth certs of children born in that hospital at that time.


58 posted on 04/30/2011 10:32:01 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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59 posted on 04/30/2011 10:32:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Roccus

Agreed....not only will Congress and the media NOT investigate...the media will strike out at anyone who holds other than the media-accepted view.

They are already in full cry after Trump. When Bachmann appeared on ABC last week she was challenged by Stepawhatshisface to support anything other than the politically correct line on the brith issue...she would not...she failed...and she is finished as a GOP candidate...but the media will not attempt to put her in jail...which would have been her fate had she not given the party line.


60 posted on 04/30/2011 10:32:14 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Signalman
He’s saying it fake because of the “multiple layers”. But I recall reading a FR post recently stating that when a .pdf document is scanned, multiple layers are the norm.

Yes, scan to PDF when it's opened in Illustrator. I've duplicated this myself. The layers theory has been quite thoroughly debunked.

61 posted on 04/30/2011 10:32:48 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Roccus

63 posted on 04/30/2011 10:33:31 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: aruanan
That makes more sense than most of the other 0 legends!!!
64 posted on 04/30/2011 10:34:24 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: library user
"Look at the hospital name on this document [Mr. Obama's alleged birth certificate]. The hospital had a different name in 1961, it was not named Kapiolani Maternity and Gynocological Hospital, it was called Kaokiolani Children's Hospital. It did not get the Kapiolani name until the mid-1970s when they merged. Kenya was not called "Kenya" in 1961 it was called "The British East Africa Protectorate" at the time Obama was born and this document was supposedly printed.

False and false. I just searched for Kaokiolani Hospital in Google's news archives and nothing showed up. The Kapiolani name shows up even for dates before 1961. Same with Kenya. No matter what the Brits called it, the name Kenya seems to have been popular even in the media.

I am sure there is a reason he wanted it suppressed, but the above two claims seem to be false.

65 posted on 04/30/2011 10:34:52 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Signalman
Check out the scanned AP posting of the BC in the video. That also should have been what the White house received from Hawaii. The video also shows the idiotic mistakes without even reading it or going into the layers.

Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4

66 posted on 04/30/2011 10:35:33 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Will88
The Nordyke twins certs use the same name.
67 posted on 04/30/2011 10:35:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: patlin

68 posted on 04/30/2011 10:35:36 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: aruanan

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/saywhat.wav


69 posted on 04/30/2011 10:36:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: PoloSec

please show me where I said anything or posted about the time travel crap. It’s obvious the guy doing the interview is a George Noory-Alex Jones worshiper, but I would hardly put Stanley in that category.


70 posted on 04/30/2011 10:37:14 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Signalman
He’s saying it fake because of the “multiple layers”. But I recall reading a FR post recently stating that when a .pdf document is scanned, multiple layers are the norm.

I know virtually nothing about how this works so I’ll let anyone who has the technical expertise for this subject post a comment.

Usually one scans paper documents, not ".pdf documents", as you state, unless you mean scanning a printed version of a .pdf document. The question we should ask is, when Obama's people scanned the (alleged) certified paper copy of the BC that the DOH people sent to him, are multiple layers normal in the resulting .pdf?

I don't know....yet. I have seen numerous different YouTube clips that show varying manipulations of the WH (green) document using Adobe and other products. From what I can see, there are legitimate and opposing views from all this activity.

It's early yet. Give it a week or two. After all, it took months before there was true consensus on Obama's "Certification" document.

71 posted on 04/30/2011 10:38:32 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: SouthDixie

He’s so ashamed he wrote a whole book (well, Ayers wrote a whole book) about his “father”?

Come on.


72 posted on 04/30/2011 10:38:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: D-fendr

it has, cool please show us, have any links to all this debunking?


73 posted on 04/30/2011 10:38:35 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: library user

Thanks!


74 posted on 04/30/2011 10:38:51 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: carolinacrazy

it kills me how folks here bleat and jump without reading more

this is Twilight Zone veracity


75 posted on 04/30/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: LaineyDee

76 posted on 04/30/2011 10:39:33 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: smoothsailing

Ummm. this isn’t about the interviewer, its about the content that the interviewee released dumbass.


77 posted on 04/30/2011 10:40:16 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: LaineyDee

Apparently CIA is in this and using all that time travel thing! You birthers were right but can’t prove it

“There appears to be another hidden factor beyond the location of Mr. Obama’s birth that is at play here – quantum access time travel pre-identification of recent U.S. Presidents, including Barack Obama. The CIA has been pre-identifying future U.S. Presidents such as Barack Obama for 40 years and has, by the evidence, co-opted each of them into CIA.

This secret quantum access program controls the U.S. presidency and makes the United States a functional CIA dictatorship.

As this reporter has written, the eyewitness evidence of whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago, the attorney in Washington State who was a participant in the secret DARPA-administered Project Pegasus that developed Tesla technology-based “quantum access” to to past and future events, indicates that it is likely that by 1982 Mr. Obama had been personally informed by CIA that he was destined to be the U.S. President inaugurated on January 20, 2009.

Barack Obama was pre-identified in time as U.S. president by secret DARPA time travel program

The notion that President Obama has had a lifelong affiliation with the CIA is supported by the revelations of crusading lawyer Andrew D. Basiago about a heretofore unknown “quantum access” capability within the US intelligence community provided by time travel technology.

Mr. Basiago has been identified as a “planetary-level whistleblower” by the Web Bot for his account of a secret time-space program, Project Pegasus, launched by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s.

According to Mr. Basiago, by 1970, Project Pegasus was teleporting individuals between locations in time-space via “teleporters” based on the later works of Nikola Tesla and also propagating images of past and future events via “chronovisors” first developed by the Vatican scientists Pellegrino Ernetti and Pier Maria Gemelli.

These have been used to provide the U.S. president, intelligence community and military with better information about past and future events by which to engage in better contingency planning for future events.

In numerous TV and radio interviews, Mr. Basiago has described how, among other intelligence findings, Project Pegasus was identifying future American presidents and then approaching them and apprising them of their destinies as President.

He has described how as a child serving in Project Pegasus in the early 1970’s, he was present at lunches held at La Hacienda restaurant in Old Town Albuquerque, NM that were attended by project principals and future American presidents, including George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, shortly after they were informed that Project Pegasus had found via quantum access that they would one day serve as President.

In appearances on talk radio’s Coast to Coast AM with George Noory in 2009 and 2010, Mr. Basiago described at length a 1982 meeting with Barack Obama in Los Angeles in which Mr. Obama also revealed his awareness that he had been briefed on the fact that the US government had detected that he was destined to reach the White House.

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/washington-times-report-newly-released-obama-birth-certificate-forensic-forgery


78 posted on 04/30/2011 10:42:25 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.)
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To: library user
One researcher states, "Look at the hospital name on this document [Mr. Obama's alleged birth certificate]. The hospital had a different name in 1961, it was not named Kapiolani Maternity and Gynocological Hospital, it was called Kaokiolani Children's Hospital. It did not get the Kapiolani name until the mid-1970s when they merged.

The Nordyke BC's have the same hospital name as the one Obama produced. I'm afraid this is a dead end on this question..
79 posted on 04/30/2011 10:44:30 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Hey now!)
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To: BB62

Do you read the NY TImes, the Washinton compost? Do you believe everything they print is the gospel truth? If the beliefs of the examiner interviewer was the intent of my post, I would have said so DUMBASS! I believe the headline begins WASHINGTON TIMES!


80 posted on 04/30/2011 10:44:53 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

I must admit, I thought, like many Freepers, that Obama would use the two and a half years he has been in office to have hired experts prepare a really good forgery, that no one could possibly detect.

Instead, he seems to have ignored the whole issue until it no longer was possible to do so, and then snapped his fingers and ordered a few stooges to prepare the fake.

It would seem to be another reflection of his malignant narcissism. Why should HE be bothered with taking all that trouble to forge a BC. It’s not worth his time and energy! No one will dare question him once he announced the new long form COLB—which the press naturally, and falsely, calls a Birth Certificate.

It does certainly take one rallying cry away from his enemies. “Show us the birth certificate!”

“OK,” he replies. “I have. There it is. Now shut up, you stupid peons!”


81 posted on 04/30/2011 10:45:01 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: patlin
Obama birth certificate forensic forgery

I'm confused. What is a forensic forgery; and how does it compare to a garden variety forgery?

ML/NJ

82 posted on 04/30/2011 10:45:41 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: little jeremiah
Come on.

Okay Einstein, Obama doesn't even KNOW who his father is.

83 posted on 04/30/2011 10:45:54 AM PDT by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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To: patlin
You didn't even go listen to Stanley, he knows it won't happen immediately & he knows that is is going to take help of the lame stream media taking their political heads out of the sand & start reporting responsibly without bias to get the machinations going.

You're right.. I didn't listen to him... but after everything I've read and heard over the past 4 years......I've come to believe the "powers-that-be" do not care about the Constitution or rule-of-law. Only raw power. Anyway... we'll see what happens. I'd LOVE to be surprised. :)

84 posted on 04/30/2011 10:47:59 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: library user
As I listened to the Washington Times interview, I kept hearing in the back of my mind Rod Serling saying:
85 posted on 04/30/2011 10:48:11 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: wardaddy

Ummm. this isn’t about the interviewer, its about the content that the interviewee released dumbass.


86 posted on 04/30/2011 10:48:11 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: org.whodat
Who in the hell is Robert Stanley

from later in the article...There appears to be another hidden factor beyond the location of Mr. Obama’s birth that is at play here – quantum access time travel pre-identification of recent U.S. Presidents, including Barack Obama. The CIA has been pre-identifying future U.S. Presidents such as Barack Obama for 40 years and has, by the evidence, co-opted each of them into CIA.

This secret quantum access program controls the U.S. presidency and makes the United States a functional CIA dictatorship.

Personally, I'd say the source article is about as useful as a tick on a pig's rump.

87 posted on 04/30/2011 10:48:18 AM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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To: org.whodat
Who in the hell is Robert Stanley???

Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio...
Just messing with ya!
88 posted on 04/30/2011 10:49:07 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: big bad easter bunny

There was a lot on the earliest FR threads after the release. Here’s two media articles on the layer theory:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding


89 posted on 04/30/2011 10:49:09 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: LaineyDee

It took 18 months for Watergate to really start breaking. This is much BIGGER than Watergate. Time is on our side & this fraud & his minions, including his wife WILL ALL be behind bars some day!


90 posted on 04/30/2011 10:51:16 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

“Kenya was not called “Kenya” in 1961 it was called “The British East Africa Protectorate” [BEAP] at the time Obama was born and this document was supposedly printed.”
*******************************************************

BEAP was used only in the 1800s and up to 1920, when it became the colony of Kenya. Their history is shabby. What else is as bad?


91 posted on 04/30/2011 10:52:47 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: patlin

“Do you believe everything they print is the gospel truth?”
Uh, no, but before I post something I read ALL of it, and if there is something worth mentioning (like TIME TRAVEL maybe?) I caution the reader - or I don’t post it at all.

Stating something so farfetched I believe says something about the source of the article - regardless of the source he’s luring you in with. Of course, citing Wikipedia as an authoritative source for Zero’s Indonesian citizenship might have been a clue too.


92 posted on 04/30/2011 10:53:02 AM PDT by BB62
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To: patlin
Washington Times: Newly Released Obama Birth Certificate Forensic Forgery - 4/29/11
93 posted on 04/30/2011 10:53:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

Whoops!

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_Africa


94 posted on 04/30/2011 10:54:31 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: SouthDixie

Your comments make no sense. First you say he didn’t want to release the abstract he just released, even tho’ it has the same info about purported parentage as on the other fake released, because he’s ashamed of parentage.

Now you say he doesn’t know who his father is, which has nothing whatsoever to do with being ashamed of heritage and that’s why he didn’t release this new thing.

Nothing you say makes any sense at all.


95 posted on 04/30/2011 10:55:10 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: john mirse
So why doesn't Obama and Hawaii officials allow reporters from world-wide news media like FoxNews, CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS to go to Hawaii so that they can touch, examine, and take photographs of the original that is supposedly in a bound book, because Obama has already released a copy of the original, so says Obama.

And maybe have a look at that book with the registration numbers in it. I mean they do have a book, or some other listing, don't they? Isn't that what registration numbers are all about?

ML/NJ

96 posted on 04/30/2011 10:55:24 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: BB62
I did read all of it & if I could have posted the link to just the radio audio I would have. But this was the only source to that audio I could find.

So cry me a river that your brain is too small to decipher the legitimate form the actual news from that article that I posted. The news of the breaking news radio interview that aired on ABC radio.

97 posted on 04/30/2011 10:57:15 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

I never mentioned time travel in my post. I did say the whole interview is crap. The interviewer, the guy interviewed and you are all nutz.


98 posted on 04/30/2011 10:59:31 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: patlin
Stanley said this was big? Hmm, who's Stanley...

About the author:

Formerly a corporate journalist for HONDA Research & Development, Robert M. Stanley is currently the editor of UNICUS magazine.com. He is also a correspondent for America's Morning News: Washington Times investigative radio.

He has passionately researched UFOs and ETs for over 30 years. In that time, he has interviewed dozens of eye-witnesses and leading experts.

Oh. Right, Obama's the subject of a secret DARPA/CIA Quantum Time Travel pre-identifier plot to know who the future presidents are.. My guess is that Stanley's tin foil hat might have been in the microwave too often.

99 posted on 04/30/2011 10:59:51 AM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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To: patlin

Knock it off with the insults, patlin, they’re unbecoming and make you look petty and foolish.


100 posted on 04/30/2011 10:59:51 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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