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Why Birtherism Is Here To Stay
Townhall.com ^ | May 1, 2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 05/01/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

On Oct. 22, 1844, thousands of followers of American evangelist William Miller woke up expecting Jesus Christ to make his triumphant return that day, as they had been told. That night, they went to bed, surprised and disappointed. But Miller's movement endured.

It was too much to expect that birthers, presented with President Barack Obama's birth certificate, would say: "What surprising and wonderful news! We'll have to reassess our entire opinion of him." When it comes to matters of blind faith, cherished beliefs have a way of overriding facts.

There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. But thanks to rampant paranoia and widespread credulity, the myth of his foreign origins gained currency among many people who should know better.

A recent New York Times/CBS News poll found that 25 percent of Americans, including 45 percent of Republicans, do not believe Obama was born in America. A poll taken after the release of his birth certificate showed 18 percent of those who have seen it still aren't convinced.

Something about this president impels many people to accept anything that is said about him, as long as it's unfavorable. Twelve percent of Americans think he's a Muslim. Plenty of others believe things contradicted by his first two years in office -- that he's a radical leftist, an anti-gun fanatic, a disciple of world government and Darth Vader's delinquent nephew.

They even believe he's an inarticulate dunce who got into Ivy League schools only because of affirmative action and can't utter an intelligible sentence without a teleprompter. Never mind that he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School and taught at another premier university, the University of Chicago.

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KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; enoughalready; naturalborncitizen; stoptheinsanity
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1 posted on 05/01/2011 5:57:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”

Winston Churchill


2 posted on 05/01/2011 6:00:44 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Kaslin

for later


3 posted on 05/01/2011 6:02:05 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Kaslin
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

Down at the DMV, I was the one who had to show evidence.

4 posted on 05/01/2011 6:07:49 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Kaslin
"There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Michelle Obama was not born with the most exquisite fashion sense of all time. But thanks to rampant paranoia and widespread credulity, the myth of her hideous fashion sense and inappropriate clothing choices gained currency among many people who should know better."

Yet I remain a "styler." Go figure.

Mr. niteowl77

5 posted on 05/01/2011 6:09:07 AM PDT by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do mind them stewing me in their own juices.)
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To: Kaslin

as usual a liberal projecting his own blind faith in “the won” onto those of us who just want to see some documentation that isn’t photo shopped


6 posted on 05/01/2011 6:09:49 AM PDT by henry_reardon
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To: Kaslin

So.... Obama is NOT a radical leftist??

I think, perhaps... this writer is suffering from the same delusions he describes.


7 posted on 05/01/2011 6:12:19 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Kaslin
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

ROFLMAO!

Isn't it just PEACHY how they try to rephrase the pertinent question in order to marginalize the people asking it?

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Where he was born is secondary to whom he was born TO.

pResident Barack Obama Barry Soetoro is NOT a Natural-born citizen!

8 posted on 05/01/2011 6:12:24 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Kaslin

Nonsense. This is elitist prattle.

Much of the point of ‘birther-ism’ is that the man is DISHONEST.

His first 2 years in office show he ISN’T a radical leftist, anti-gun fanatic, or a disciple of world government???
Wow.

WHO have YOU been watching, sir? And what ‘FACTS’ do YOU have?


9 posted on 05/01/2011 6:12:38 AM PDT by J40000
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To: Kaslin
" When it comes to matters of blind faith, cherished beliefs have a way of overriding facts.

It's blind faith to accept the word of a flaming socialist who has repeatedly lied to the American people and is out to destroy the country.

There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

There's never been a shred of evidence to prove he was born in Hawaii. Steve Chapman doesn't understand it is incumbent upon the person seeking the office of President to prove he or she is Constitutionally eligible, including the natural born citizenship clause in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution. It is not incumbent upon the people to prove someone is not eligible to be President.

A recent New York Times/CBS News poll found that 25 percent of Americans, including 45 percent of Republicans, do not believe Obama was born in America. A poll taken after the release of his birth certificate showed 18 percent of those who have seen it still aren't convinced.

Consider the source before accepting those figures as fact.
10 posted on 05/01/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Kaslin.


11 posted on 05/01/2011 6:13:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: bolobaby; Kaslin

Chapman doesn’t like these facts about “birtherism,” LOL!!!

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=14677


12 posted on 05/01/2011 6:19:28 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: J40000
the man is DISHONEST.

That is my contention as well. If he would just come clean, and admit the truth, all this nonsense would be history. Instead he chooses to snowball the lies and quite arrogantly too I might add.

13 posted on 05/01/2011 6:22:05 AM PDT by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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To: Kaslin
"They even believe he's an inarticulate dunce who got into Ivy League schools only because of affirmative action..."

"Well, uh, I, uh, uh, mmm,uh, er, think, uh, mmmm, er, that, ,uh, uh, mmm, ...57 states, uh, um, errr, speak Austrian, uh, um, er, mmmm,...."

14 posted on 05/01/2011 6:22:18 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: Kaslin

.....”They even believe he’s an inarticulate dunce who got into Ivy League schools only because of affirmative action and can’t utter an intelligible sentence without a teleprompter”.....

Yes

Prove graduation status at Harvard which is starting to mean Hall of Dunces

How can this guy fly on leftest BS.


15 posted on 05/01/2011 6:25:04 AM PDT by mcshot (The GREATEST GENERATION would not tolerate this bastardization of our Republic.)
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To: Kaslin

If Obama was such a great law student, why in old hail is his client list suppressed by the Illnois Bar Association, allegedly pursynt to Obama’s request??

Whats wrong Obama, did you represent Chicago thugs and gangsters and little else? Lets see your clients list Obama, what are you hiding?


16 posted on 05/01/2011 6:28:19 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Kaslin

There is no way that the founders of this great nation intended for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest, most powerful position in the new land.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 6:32:41 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Candor7
If Obama was such a great law student, why in old hail is his client list suppressed by the Illnois Bar Association, allegedly pursynt to Obama’s request??

That's nonsense. Why would the Illinois Bar Association have Obama's client list?

18 posted on 05/01/2011 6:33:09 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: MamaTexan
Where he was born is secondary to whom he was born TO.

OK, I'll bite. To whom WAS he born and what is your evidence?

19 posted on 05/01/2011 6:35:19 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Kaslin
In the day of Photoshop, a digital image proves nothing.

But let's pretend like it does, and call anybody who won't accept it crazy. It's the Alinsky way.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

20 posted on 05/01/2011 6:40:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: Genoa
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

An idiot statement.

There has never been a shred of evidence I wasn't born in CA, but I've been forced to produce my BC hundreds of times.

"papers please" only applies to we, The Great Unwashed, not our "betters".

I'd like to point out that, unlike some of my betters, I am not a bastard.

21 posted on 05/01/2011 6:40:10 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Kaslin

Then they should stop calling us names and prove thei assertions

We say the document is fake- we give video proof on the actual document released.

The libtards say it is real - with no video proof, except examples of other unrelated things on other documents...

And who’s unhinged?


22 posted on 05/01/2011 6:42:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Kaslin
If we fail to follow the rule of law, the law becomes the mere passing whim of tyrannical despots!

Dual born citizens are NOT ELIGIBLE!

Son of Adolph, anyone? Son of Stalin? Son of Pol Pot? Son of Bin Laden?

Just because he's half honky, slave owning, polar bear, snowflake, cracker shouldn't be any reason to ignore the CONSTITUTION!

23 posted on 05/01/2011 6:51:05 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii."

I like how the libtard media puts the conclusion right there for us too.. Every time they discuss the issue it sis always about how those crazy birthers wont believe the undisputed facts...

Well there is more proof he was born in Kenya than there is that he was born in USA, including he Grandma saying she was there at his birth, his wife giving a speech on video saying he was born in Kenya, his own political website when he was running for Senate saying he was born in Kenya, and 3 years of stonewalling and $2million dollars to prevent releasing a real BC that you and I have to do all the time.

The unhinged are the libtars with the blind faith in "The Annointed Won" who would never in a million years accept this kind of stuff from a Republican.

I like this issue for the full-scale exposure of what we all suspected- libtard media hypocracy.

24 posted on 05/01/2011 6:53:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Kaslin
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

Then where did Hillary Clinton get that idea?

25 posted on 05/01/2011 6:54:46 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
There has never been a shred of evidence I wasn't born in CA, but I've been forced to produce my BC hundreds of times.

I think I've produced mine twice in my lifetime. Once for a passport, and once for an initial application for DOD security clearance.

What have you done that requires you to produce your BC hundreds of times?

26 posted on 05/01/2011 6:55:58 AM PDT by Doe Eyes (TX)
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To: Kaslin
Something about this president impels many people to accept anything that is said about him, as long as it's unfavorable.

Sheeeyit. Just think what The Left would be saying about him if he was (were?) a Republican.

27 posted on 05/01/2011 6:58:19 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii

The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

28 posted on 05/01/2011 7:00:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Kaslin

I’m more offended about this because they ‘produce’ a fake document and call us crazy... a good portion of FREEPERS call us crazy if we just don’t buy into it.

There are TOO many oddities about this document to NOT even question it.

Why are we flat out called ‘crazy’ if we even question it???


29 posted on 05/01/2011 7:01:17 AM PDT by J40000
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To: Kaslin
Something about this president impels many people to accept anything that is said about him, as long as it's unfavorable.


"Surely, you jest."

30 posted on 05/01/2011 7:02:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: libertylover

Maybe he was hatched by a buzzard but the point is that he has been foisted upon us by fawning, kneepad wearing presstitutes and that pisses me off!


31 posted on 05/01/2011 7:10:12 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: Kaslin
The political and literary classes still don't understand the two major driving forces behind the “birther movement.”

First, the individuals have to show their birth certificates multiple times as they want to access services and join associations. If our children have to show valid birth certificates to go school and we have to show it to get passports, both minor things, which shouldn't Obama have to show his? Who has the greater ability to affect the greater number of people?

Second, much live the driving issue - almost everyone I have talked to would /did show their certified birth certificates when requested by authorities. We didn't have anything we were ashamed of. If Obama is who/what he says he is why didn't he do likewise? The only non-political excuse for his behavior on this subject is he either has something to hide or is ashamed of it.

32 posted on 05/01/2011 7:10:22 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: patriot08

The Founding Fathers did not intend such, but the American people did as a way of punishing themselves for the failures of GWB. They really did expect “hope and change”.


33 posted on 05/01/2011 7:59:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: Genoa

Shoot, I haven’t seen any really pursuasive evidence that he was BORN.

All we get is load of BS after load of BS.

So the newest load we are supposed to accept unquestioningly?


34 posted on 05/01/2011 8:00:48 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: J40000

Yes, DISHONESTY is the point.

With 18 months to the election, it would be next to impossible to adjudicate Obama out.

But for political purposes, we should hammer, hammer, hammer away at all his lies, distortions, and downright, documentable fraud.

The people have a right to know.

If they want to a lying sack of Shiite to occupy the WH for another 4 years, they won’t be able to say we didn’t warn them.


35 posted on 05/01/2011 8:06:35 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Kaslin; 3D-JOY; 50mm; AGreatPer; calcowgirl; cindy-true-supporter; concretebob; Disco Dave; ...
As president of Babies Union local #713 I and the rank and file strongly advocate birtherism.

35½ posted on 05/01/2011 11:08:11 AM EDT by Baby (Dubddadubdadadubadub plfft)

To: 3D-Joy; 50mm; AGreatPer; calcowgirl; cindyTrueSupporter; concretebob; Disco Dave; Doctor Raoul; ...
ping!

If you want off my ping list get over it!


36 posted on 05/01/2011 8:22:09 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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his own political website when he was running for Senate saying he was born in Kenya

Never heard this. Any links or scrubbed already? Thanks for your support.

Plus Zero admitted as Senator and previously being born in Kenya with witness affidavits filed in court. Plus the Kenyan Ambassador's comments on radio station "his birthplace in Kenya is well known", plus a dozen African press links stating "Kenyan-born"
37 posted on 05/01/2011 8:28:03 AM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ

And let us not forget the Kenyan Parliament and Minister of Lands.


38 posted on 05/01/2011 8:29:18 AM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Kaslin

So-called birtherism is not here to stay. It will disappear once Obama leaves office. It is merely a means for some to try to discredit Obama. This sort of manufactured conspiratorial issue has become commonplace in our national dialogue ever since the Kennedy assassination, when many charlatans and snake oil salesmen found they could make a nice buck off books, TV specials, etc. They, uhmmm, “birthed” the cottage industry that today instantly manufactures conspiracy theories about many events and public figures. Just like millions love a good mystery, millions also love a good conspiracy.


39 posted on 05/01/2011 8:37:08 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Doe Eyes
What have you done that requires you to produce your BC hundreds of times?

Uh, maybe a "slight" exaggeration. But certainly more than twice. As I recall, we had to produce them to get our mortgage when we moved to KY 5 years ago. We had to produce them to get our driver licenses here, not copies, but originals. I remember as a kid we needed it, but I can't tell you the exact circumstances and my parents are gone so I can't get that info from them. We moved a lot as a military family, so that probably caused it to happen more than average.

I think it is telling that *I* needed it to get my DL, but *Obama* did not need it to be sworn in as President.

40 posted on 05/01/2011 8:58:02 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Genoa
There has never been a shred of persuasive evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

Grandma talkin...?

41 posted on 05/01/2011 9:09:49 AM PDT by SteamShovel (The RADIATION PIMPS...are RATS)
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42 posted on 05/01/2011 9:14:36 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SouthDixie; J40000

“the man is DISHONEST.”

Agreed. At this point I’d have to say he’s just dividing his enemies. I’m starting to get the feeling we’re getting played for suckers with the WH version of the COLB. It’s been screwed with just enough to suggest fraud, but not enough to be definitive.


43 posted on 05/01/2011 9:30:08 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kaslin
Why is "Birtherism" here to stay? Here, I'll sum it up for you....

So many lies, so little time.

44 posted on 05/01/2011 9:31:37 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve argued long and hard with a lot of birthers, but this statement is totally true:

“...he’s a radical leftist, an anti-gun fanatic, a disciple of world government and Darth Vader’s delinquent nephew.”

Pity the author presents it as parody. And he should have added muslim...


45 posted on 05/01/2011 9:35:19 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Kaslin

This guy is eating a s*** sandwich and telling us we’re stupid and bad because we don’t want one too.


46 posted on 05/01/2011 9:36:47 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: niteowl77

Just as the author of this piece remains a “tingler”.


47 posted on 05/01/2011 9:40:00 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (I'm not so concerned he was born in a 3rd world toilet as I am him trying to turn America into one.)
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To: libertylover; MamaTexan
Where he was born is secondary to whom he was born TO.

Wrong. They hold equal weight.

48 posted on 05/01/2011 9:42:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kaslin
do not believe Obama was born in America.

do not believe Obama is qualified to be president.

do not believe Obama.

49 posted on 05/01/2011 11:02:29 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: little jeremiah
Where he was born is secondary to whom he was born TO...

Wrong. They hold equal weight.

Mama Texan hasn't yet responded to my inquiry so perhaps you will please explain it to us.

50 posted on 05/01/2011 11:31:55 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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