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Mark Steyn : Discredited. The Fed’s policy is accelerating American collapse
National Review ^ | 04/30/2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/01/2011 6:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 05/01/2011 7:25:08 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: wintertime

///Up until Wednesday morning polls showed the Americans **did** care about Obama’s birth certificate. As the news gets out about the blatant forgery posted on Wednesday, we may see this poll numbers rise again. ///

Obama is the President of the United States. He has resources beyond measure, and years to prepare. NSA wouldnt be able to sniff the forgery he could have made.

So, if he put out a document that pajama clad bloggers immediately start barking at, while the rest of the world loses interest, on a topic that Obama very much wants to keep around forever, the fish headed admiral in your head should be screaming three words at you.

ITS A TRAP!


41 posted on 05/01/2011 8:27:43 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf
The Natural Born Citizen angle is vague and murky. The courts and congress won’t touch it. Not with a ten foot pole. Not now, not later. You realize that, right?

As long as there is a Constitution I am going to fight for it. That is what makes me a Constitutional Conservative. Being a Constitutional Conservative is what the Free Republic site is all about. Cynicism is of course allowed, as are most non-lib viewpoints, but I am not so cynical as you are at this point, FRiend.

You may call it "realistic" but in my book that is exactly the same as being a RINO. There is no distinction in "Constitution Lite" and "Socialist Lite."

As a matter of fact, it is entirely possible to be both pragmatic AND constitutional, and that is what the Tea Party represents. You don't see the Tea Party types backing away from too many Constitutional fights. They may phrase it differently, focusing on different things or taking different angles on the fight, but the Constitutional angle remains at the center of it.

Barack 0bama can go to hell. We need to establish how and when a potential POTUS needs to prove citizenship. Better now than later. There is no reason WHATSOEVER to delay this argument. Let's get it in front of the Supreme Court ASAP. If it takes down BO then so much the better. If not, a bigger purpose is still served.

42 posted on 05/01/2011 8:28:53 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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43 posted on 05/01/2011 8:34:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: wintertime
I enjoy Mark Steyn very much, but in the 3rd hour on Friday he really went off on the birthers. Obama posts a blatant forgery of a so-called birth certificate and Steyn sees this as a rinky dink technicality.

That was the best part of the show...because Steyn was totally correct. The birthers are a very, very small segment of the voting population and most voters (including many Republicans) think they are crazy. Someday the birthers may be proven right but at this point in time they are irrelevant. There simply aren't enough Americans that care about the issue because it doesn't affect their wallets. Most voters will go to the polls on election day 2012 and vote for/against 0bama on economic issues. If 0bama is able to turn the economy around and lower gas prices then it won't matter if he was born on Mars...the folks will vote for him. If the economy is in the dumper and gas prices are still high most voters will vote him out of office.

In reality, the birther issue is just a replay of the Clinton/Lewinsky situation with most folks happy about the economy and claiming that its OK to lie in a deposition as long "as someone is lying about sex". If the economy were doing poorly at the time Americans might have felt differently.

The birthers have to realize that no one else really cares about their silly pet issue. Don't give me that" its the Constition" crap...congress and the president went extra-Constitutional when they passed the TARP bailout, but that never stopped them.

44 posted on 05/01/2011 8:42:41 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: bvw

But that’s what marxism really is, the concentration of wealth in a ruling elite.


45 posted on 05/01/2011 8:48:02 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: paulycy

Agree with you.


46 posted on 05/01/2011 8:57:42 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Thermalseeker

What we will see is an emphasis on reduced military spending, in order to maintain domestic spending.

This is the real end game of America’s internal and external enemies.

The steps are:

1.) Wreck the U.S. economy with irresponsible spending and tax hikes.

2.) Create public pressure for defense cuts.

3.) Destroy America’s ability to defend her allies and her national integrity.

4.) End U.S. sovereignty through a combination of military and political pressures.

5.) Establish a world socialist governing authority, with what’s left of America as an economic milking cow.

Obama’s change is well under way.


47 posted on 05/01/2011 9:06:24 AM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: P.O.E.

RE: “after me, the deluge”?

For the folks in Rio Linda ( as Rush would say ) :

“after me, the deluge”?


48 posted on 05/01/2011 9:12:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: P.O.E.

RE: “apres moi le deluge”??


For the folks in Rio Linda ( as Rush would say ) :

“after me, the deluge”?


49 posted on 05/01/2011 9:13:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul O'neill: “The people who are threatening not to pass the debt ceiling are our version of al-Qaeda terrorists. Really.”

All I have to say is - "Alluh Akbar," baby.

50 posted on 05/01/2011 9:42:12 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: NRG1973

Yes, the Constitution is of the utmost importance.
The problem is who follows the Constitution these days?

Not one elected official or Elector of the Electoral college contested Obama’s legitimacy. The political parties do not vet their own candidates.

The larger point of Steyn’s argument is that if we do not have principled elected officials, then governance is in our hands. And we failed. 53% of the citizenry was not interested in Obama’s background. And the media had found its messiah.

Our Constitution is only as good as the people under it.
Political Correctness is cowering true citizenry.

Steyn has amazing intellectual wit. I love when he substitutes for Rush.

P.S. Goldwater was born in 1909. Arizona became a state in 1912. If Goldwater had won the presidency, would the dems and ACLU be contesting it?


51 posted on 05/01/2011 10:00:43 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: bvw

I have come to realize that “marxist” means “a few of us have everything, and the people can have whatever that few feels like giving them”. That’s the definition of marxism that I think is most appropriate.

So - I think we said the same thing.


52 posted on 05/01/2011 1:16:50 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I think we are about to feel those severe repercussions.


53 posted on 05/01/2011 1:19:03 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping. This essay is also published under the title “Raising the ceiling on a cracked foundation” in the Orange County Register and is titled DISCREDITED at Steynonline. Steyn has also published this post script to the essay of this thread entitled “Hitting the Real Debt Ceiling”:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/266107/hitting-real-debt-ceiling-mark-steyn

Additionaly a thread on Steyn’s weekly interview on the Hugh Hewitt show is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712248/posts

Thanks for the pings knews_hound and FeedomPoster

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.


54 posted on 05/01/2011 8:22:18 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: JLS

I heard Steyn on Rush this past week for Thursday and Friday, I think. He was absolutely hilarious! I want to hear more. Rush should dump Hannity from “The Rush Network,” and put in Steyn.


55 posted on 05/01/2011 8:43:06 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


56 posted on 05/01/2011 10:08:08 PM PDT by hattend (How much do you have to invest in the future before you've spent it and no longer have one? - Steyn)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

I, too, have been having similar thoughts...and I suspect many here and elsewhere have, also. Good post.


57 posted on 05/02/2011 4:19:17 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Thermalseeker
Yes, but why does the U.S. government need to maintain credibility with its creditors when increasingly it’s buying its debt from itself? Every month there’s more and more U.S. Treasury debt and fewer and fewer people who want it. The Chinese are reducing their exposure. The investment behemoth Pimco, which manages the world’s largest mutual fund, recently dumped U.S. Treasuries entirely. To avoid the failure of U.S. bond auctions, or an increase in interest rates to make them more attractive to rational lenders, the U.S. government’s debt is bought by the U.S. government’s Federal Reserve.

We're all starting to hold our collective breaths...

58 posted on 05/02/2011 8:30:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Understanding the Koran: http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: GOPJ
We're all starting to hold our collective breaths...

A better course of action would be to prepare now while you still can. Seems more likely with every passing day that it will become very important in coming years for people to be able to fin for themselves, as well as protect and defend what is theirs from those who didn't prepare. The gubmint charade is coming apart at the seams......

59 posted on 05/04/2011 5:10:19 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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