Skip to comments.California Prison Academy: Better Than a Harvard Degree
Posted on 05/01/2011 8:12:29 AM PDT by unique
Prison guards can retire at the age of 55 and earn 85% of their final year's salary for the rest of their lives. They also continue to receive medical benefits.
As a California prison guard, you can make six figures in overtime and bonuses alone. While Harvard-educated lawyers and consultants often have to work long hours with little recompense besides Chinese take-out, prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week. One sergeant with a base salary of $81,683 collected $114,334 in overtime and $8,648 in bonuses last year, and he's not even the highest paid.
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If anyone thinks that is an easy way to make money they are ill informed.
Legalized theft. The politicians who signed off on the mechanisms that allow these packages to come about should be in prison for life.
EASY!.. no one said it was easy just that the bennys are obscene.. and that the Union that represents them is corrupt..
ALL public sector Unions are corrupt.. politically and probably in other ways as well.. Not to say they are democrat run organized and goon driven.. And they OWN any elected democrat.. and a few republicans too..
You betcha! You couldn’t entice me into that job for three times that pay.
Most of the stuff I learned about prison were from watching OZ’. Had a former apt manager, a prison guard retiree and the stuff I saw on Oz was just the tip of the iceberg.
“While Harvard-educated lawyers and consultants often have to work long hours with little recompense besides Chinese take-out”
WTF. Being Harvard educated means that you should get an easier ride than others? You couldn’t pay me enough to be a prison guard.
And you work with a better class of people. Which is nice.
I guess I can get why a prison guard can make some good money seeing that your life is in danger having to babysit some of the worst offenders.
But 85% of your salary at retirement + Medical benefits??
Enough guys getting that and you are basically paying the equal of 1/2 of the workforce now to not actually preform a service.
I’ll tell you what I don’t like about these kind of articles. They focus too much on the working man, the sergeant in this case.
Is it unethical to take a job with good benefits? Is it unethical to put in overtime?
No. It’s the politicians - and only the politicians - at fault here.
Sure, the system needs to be fixed, and soon. But such articles need to focus more on who set up these benefits, not on who is legally receiving them.
Pay issues aside, CO’s want to keep the animals inside, lawyers want them outside so they can reoffend. Frequent offenders equal frequent paychecks for attorneys; defense, prosecutor and judge. (All attorneys)
Sympathy can be found in the dictionary between a crude word for fecal matter and syphilis.
I wouldn’t do that job 200K per year. No friggin’ way. Good on ‘em.
That is huge.
That comes out to 1941 hours of overtime. That is almost another work year (2080 hours).
Not really unusual in the regular industrial work place really. My father worked 7 twelve hour days a week for several years in a foundry. That comes out to 1664 overtime hours per year.
But my father worked till he was 65 and got no medical benefits and only a minimal pension.
The stress is immense, and then there's always a good probability you will "make enemies" ~ which pretty much requires getting a different job.
It's not an easy way to make the big bucks and it has a substantial price.
Outrageous public-employee pension obligations
Want to know the single biggest reason why New York City is thinking about laying off thousands of teachers, jacking up parking meter fees and scaling back fire protection?
The answer boils down to one word: pensions.
“No municipality will sustain more damage than New York City, which next year faces a mind-boggling pension tab of $8.35 billion - a 19% increase in one year “
California has the 8th largest economy in the world, and yet 80% of every dime they spend is on salaries, benefits, and pensions.
These public employee unions will eventually bring all of the States down.
“How public-sector unions broke California”
Thats right don’t take it out on the screws.Don’t forget these guys work most every holiday and weekened.
While most people are watching their kids open up christmas on Xmas day.These guys are trying to stop Jose from opening up Leroy in the chow hall.
One of the highest rates of suicide, divorce ,alchohol, drug abuse and early mortality are some of the other benefits.
California has more people in prison than any COUNTRY in the world...
At 55! So, we pay it for 20+ years - guaranteed! That's just not available to the working man in the private sector.
Yes, but if you’re mixed-race, arriving and attending under mysterious and anonymous and unrecorded unpublicized circumstances, you have the chance to Elmer Gantry your way into a presidency....beats a great pension anytime.
The question is could you entice enough qualified applicants at half the pay? Time to privatize the whole system
So I can assume you will post the same sentiments on the next teacher-bashing thread?
Some California prison guards have been busted for selling smokes for $100.00 a pack wonder what they get for drugs?.
You may be correct but the article states:
prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week.
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“Listen up,fellas the rec room is closed until we get the cue ball back for the pool table and when we find out whos been shitting in the showers.Have a nice day.”
BINGO, of course!
What about a citizens committee - non partisan (if that’s possible) to decide/negotiate pay and benefits covering public sector employees?
The ironic thing is that most public sector employees in CA have a similar deal, even those not involved in law enforcement. Paying un-accrued benefits for 20-25 years is way over the top!
And 30% or more probably are illegal aliens we now get to food ,clothe and medicate...
The way the game is played...Schedule your vacation for Monday -Friday. Work 12 hrs on Saturday and Sunday and get paid for the week......84 hours pay for working 24.
Work a double shift on a holiday and get 40 hrs pay for that one day, tack 6 days vacation on the week of that holiday and get 80 hours pay for working one day.
Now figure in the fact that they may get 6-8 weeks vacation to play that game with and you can get an extra month or two of pay pretty easy.
Yes, absolutely. I hold no grudge against people doing an honest day's work for their agreed-upon compensation.
If however the thread bashes the school boards instead, then more power to the bashers.
Ahh The next CO union depend is for easier.
Already the CO’s on first watch sleep.
Do they need comfort select mattresses?
Here in Cali it’s not just the prison guards that have sweet deals. Our Fire Chief just retired at 51 with a $100k “increase” in his annual take home due to the pension setup. This guy and his spouse will get $286k per year for starters ( and it is indexed for inflation ) plus lifetime health care. If he lives to 80, and that’s a good bet with his “cadillac healthcare,” he will cost us between $8 & $9 million in pension costs alone! His deputy chief has also just retired with a similar payout at a similar age. Do the math, these benefits are not sustainable. Our worthless first police chief retired 10 years ago. He never made more than $60k, but his pension today is $128,600 (it’s a matter of public record) and this jerk is on the board of the Fire District that doled out the above-mentioned pensions. The whole thing is a disgrace!
I work for a company with a very old Union where the some of the workers routinely out earn their supervisors year after year.
But the article says what it says, so not being familiar with Californias prison system or the union agreements there I made some simple calculations.
For all I know each prison could have there own local and own pay scales.
Yes, the local firefighters are another group that have it made with pensions, along with CAL Fire.
That’s why if Brown puts a tax increase on the ballet it should be rejected as he hasn’t dealt with the public employee benefits issue or provided for a way for local entities to deal with public pensions, etc.
I suppose in the old days, perhaps public employees were actually considered ‘public servants’, sort of like teachers in the day - low pay, low benefits - working to serve the public as its own reward - well, something happened along the way.
On the other hand, in CA it seems like we are screwed given the political climate.
If anyone thinks that is an easy way to make money they are ill informed.
I 100% agree. My dad is a conservative and has worked at a prison for the last 10 years...and has hated every minute of it. He has more red tape to go through than anyone else I’ve known.
There are times when he bitches and moans about this or that paycut, or political b.s., but now and then he says something to the effect of “I chose to work here, so I guess I should be thankful”.
Having to baby sit a bunch of impulsive sociopaths is worth 'good money'... You're right on that.