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Obama: Al-Qaida head bin Laden dead (BURIED HEADLINE: OBL REMAINS RESPECTED--IN ISLAMIC TRADITION)
Associated Press via Yahoo News ^ | 5/1/2011 | JULIE PACE and MATT APUZZO

Posted on 05/01/2011 10:22:16 PM PDT by Wolfstar

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To: precisionshootist
“I will believe he is dead when I see proof. This administration cannot be trusted, and I wouldn’t put it past them to try to fake it

That's the way I see it...Get rid of the body within 24 hours with no pictures...The 'compound' is burning to the ground as we speak...Not a lick of proof for the general public that Bin Laden was killed and no place to investigate for proof...

51 posted on 05/02/2011 3:04:25 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Wolfstar

Beautiful photos, Wolfstar. I grew up in NYC and I too remember watching the building of the WTC. My reaction is the same as yours, every time I see an old photo of them or fly into NY and look down at the site and see what those animals did to us. Real grief.


52 posted on 05/02/2011 3:29:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: Wolfstar
They say they respected his body - that's only to keep the Muslim hoards from going nuts. My guess is they tied a 50 lb weight around his carcass and unceremoniously dumped his body into the ocean.
53 posted on 05/02/2011 3:43:31 AM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: mkleesma
Up at Drudge article,

He was already buried at sea?

54 posted on 05/02/2011 4:08:02 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Wolfstar

obama said that Bin Laden was “not a muslim leader”. What utter BS and garbage!!!!

Bin Laden did everything in the name of islam, to advance the muslim goal to create a worldwide Caliphate and crush the infidels!!!!

obama has to do everything to make islam look good. The simple reason for that is that obama himself is a muslim!!!!

Meanwhile, ever since Bin Laden has been bottled up in the Afghanistan/Pakistan area, and the (initial) defeat of the Taliban, Al Qaeda has become a decentralized organization, able to strike anywhere (think London, Madrid, Bali, etc.). And the parent of Al Qaeda, the muslim Brotherhood, is welcomed into our large urban areas (e.g., those huge mosques), and even into the White House!!!!

Expect massive amounts of trouble ahead!


55 posted on 05/02/2011 5:55:05 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Wolfstar

Why are you supporting the murder of US servicemembers?

Millions of muslims admire OBL. Desecrating his body and insulting Islam supports muslim terrorist organizations. Muslim terrorist organizations attack US servicemembers in Iraq and Afghanistan. So I ask you again why are you supporting the murder of US servicemembers?


56 posted on 05/02/2011 6:00:07 AM PDT by Justa
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To: CarolNTN
Yeah but if treating his remains with respect will keep more of our boys from being crippled or killed then I’m all for it.

Pick up the Koran and you find this will not make the Muzzies our friends nor will it stop them from killing Americans. Osamas head should have been brought back to USA for us to see.

57 posted on 05/02/2011 6:03:39 AM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: Wolfstar

In fact, they did NOT follow Islamic law on this.

“623. * If a person dies on a ship and if there is no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship, it should be kept on it and buried in the ground after reaching the land.”

Buried at sea is to be avoided! And only done when there is no other viable option.

Bin Laden was killed on land, so there was no religious excuse to not bury him on land pronto. They move the body to a ship - a no-no - and then dumped it overboard when “there [was] no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship”.

The Navy may say they complied with tradition, but couldn’t have screwed it up more without adding bacon. The term “malicious obedience” comes to mind, but I don’t think malice was involved.


58 posted on 05/02/2011 6:12:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: newzjunkey

BBC news: “US media reports said that the body was buried at sea to conform with Islamic practice of a burial within 24 hours and to prevent any grave becoming a shrine.”

I still want proof but I’m glad there is no grave to be a shrine.


59 posted on 05/02/2011 6:34:29 AM PDT by CarolNTN
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To: ctdonath2
A normal grave on terra firma would be unthinkable. It would become a place of pilgrimage and a focal point for the radicals who regard him as a hero and a martyr. bin Laden would become even larger in death than he was in life. To Mecca and Medina there would be added yet another place of pilgrimage for the Muslim masses.

Burying him at sea was meant to forestall that scenario. It is intended to prevent the construction of a site of homage to the bloodthirsty Sheikh.

60 posted on 05/02/2011 6:36:12 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Wolfstar; Cementjungle
>> Taking the high ground on this is probaly a prudent approach.

> I don't know. The Islamofacists and the world at large managed to handle these images without much fuss:

That's true. My suggestion of taking the high ground derives from the moral/ethical position of "doing the right thing". Whether the Islamofascists like it or not is their business -- and they often get all riled up regardless.

As I wrote in #19:

Our decision should be based on what WE think is best, not on what the Muslim reaction might be.
In the end, we are responsible to God for our actions, and "we tried to avoid hurting someone's feelings" is a poor excuse for doing the wrong thing.

But as I also wrote, there's definitely a part of me that would like to stomp OBL's lousy carcass into the dust and empty my bladder over it. I completely understand those sentiments.

61 posted on 05/02/2011 6:42:48 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SunkenCiv
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62 posted on 05/02/2011 6:45:50 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CarolNTN
Here's the pic reuters is posting. Should I start the comments with "Looks like the pic was flipped?"

63 posted on 05/02/2011 6:56:46 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Ask and you will recieve!


64 posted on 05/02/2011 7:09:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Palter; All

I refuse to get upset that they are treating his body with respect. I like many of you wouldn’t like that to happen, but do you realize what would happen if we didn’t?

It would cause major issues in our relations around the world.

I have to admit, part of me wants to see a picture of the body so there is proof Obama isn’t just making this up.

But, if he was, Al Queda would have come out to say he’s not dead. They already confirmed he’s dead.


65 posted on 05/02/2011 7:44:54 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: spokeshave
thanks for the great photos....I have them saved

You're very welcome. :)

66 posted on 05/02/2011 7:49:01 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: livius
My reaction is the same as yours, every time I see an old photo of them or fly into NY and look down at the site and see what those animals did to us. Real grief.

Yes, you do understand. It is real grief. No other way to put it. I'm so happy that scum, bin Laden, is now fish food.

67 posted on 05/02/2011 7:54:18 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SatinDoll
"OBL’s carcass ought to be wrapped in a boar hog’s skin and burned!"

And bacon stuffed in his mouth!

And cracklin' pork skins rammed up his butt!

This just goes to show that even in victory our ruling elite must make us into cowards. It is our ruling elite that has, all these years, kept us from victory, not the awesome brains and firepower of the terrorists.

68 posted on 05/02/2011 8:03:04 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: unkus

I worry about them especially. Obama is an idiot and either working for the other side or of questionable loyalty. May I ask if there is a link where there is discussed?


69 posted on 05/02/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Justa
Why are you supporting the murder of US servicemembers?

What the fu*k are you talking about? How dare you?!!!! Bin Laden deserved NO respect whatsoever. Muslims and their phony "tender" feelings are not the cause of any of the slaughter they have been perpetrating against the United States, our people, and our allies long, long before bin Laden came on the scene. Munich 1972, Lockerbie, the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the Achille Lauro, and so many other murderous incidents perpetrated by Muslims against us through the years were all unprovoked by us. They hate us simply because we exist, not because we ever disrespected their religion or a scum sucker like bin Laden.

70 posted on 05/02/2011 8:06:58 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ctdonath2
The Navy may say they complied with tradition, but couldn’t have screwed it up more without adding bacon.

Thank you for telling me this. It is comforting. :)

71 posted on 05/02/2011 8:08:48 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PghBaldy

I haven’t seen a link. I saw the comment on another thread. I’m anxious to see the link, too.


72 posted on 05/02/2011 8:09:03 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Wolfstar
"I am absolutely shocked that the Obama administration is according OBL's remains any degree of respect. ..."

Why are you surprised? Time and time again Obama has shown his true muslim colors. In this instance he is merely giving due respect to one of his fellow co-religionists, and also one of his mentors in the fight against the collective American enemy.

73 posted on 05/02/2011 8:19:51 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: CarolNTN
didn’t media used to spell his name Osama? What gives with the sudden respelling?

Fox News has been spelling Osama's name with a U since day one, but as far as I know, they're the only news outlet that did.

I never did understand why they spelled it that way.

74 posted on 05/02/2011 8:23:39 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Wolfstar

How can you make any assessment of Islamic terrorism if you don’t know what motivates it? Acting callously and irresponsibly only plays into jihadists’ hands of the West’s hostility to Islamic culture thereby creating willing volunteers for future attacks. An anonymous ‘burial at sea’ from a US Navy ship is a great ending for OBL.


75 posted on 05/02/2011 8:24:59 AM PDT by Justa
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To: ponygirl

I saw this picture last week...This was floating around FR, and some other places...I thought it looked photo shopped. When somebody dies or is killed, his lips shoule be relaxed and not like he is squinting...The other possibility would be that his mouth would be fully open....not like in its current position...


76 posted on 05/02/2011 9:07:45 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: I Buried My Guns

Well-said. To those who complain that we should have buried his body respectfully in order to avoid upsetting the islamic terrorists, I have this to say. Do you seriously think purportedly burying him in islamic tradition will reduce their anger at America or their resolve to kill Americans? Of course it won’t, nor will it prevent them from using his death to champion him as a martyr for recruiting purposes. It does not matter, period.

If they want to, they can use the picture of his bloodied dead body to rile up anger just as effectively as if we had stuffed swine fecal matter into his mouth before burning him (and if they really, really want to they can even start a rumor that we did just that regardless of if we did or not).

There was no reason, other than the administration’s desire to attempt to obey Islamic law, to pay him [i]that[/i] kind of respect. You can bury or cremate a body respectfully without bowing to the religious laws the enemy you just killed wanted to see imposed on you. This says to me that although Obama needed to give the green light for the operation to kill Osama for the sake of his own poll numbers, he still respects what Osama was ultimately trying to accomplish; the imposition of Islamic law on the west. Obviously, burning him in pig fat was never in the cards, but that doesn’t mean we needed to bow to Islamic law.


77 posted on 05/02/2011 9:09:22 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Wolfstar

Finally. It’s about time, and hard to believe they didn’t know his location long ago, not even getting into the chance we had years ago when Gary Berntsen and company were in sight of his positions and not given the go ahead. We’ll see now whether respecting his Osama’s traditions was a better idea than Pershing’s burying Mohammadan insurgents under pig parts.


78 posted on 05/02/2011 9:58:38 AM PDT by OldNewYork (What the incumbent really did just show is that he's afraid of Donald Trump)
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To: precisionshootist

Where’s the video? Where’s the fingerprints? Where’s the DNA.

This is standard operating procedure.

Videotape the hit. Fingerprint the corpse. Take a blood sample for DNA.

The Israelis did it when they killed Abu Jihad.

The US did it when they killed Ode and Qusai Hussein.


79 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:18 AM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: Justa

Who gives a crap what motivates the Islamofacists. There is no excuse — none, nada, zip, zero — for their slaughter of innocents, their horrific brutality toward women and little girls, etc. They are no better than Nazis and Stalinist thugs.


80 posted on 05/02/2011 10:36:38 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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81 posted on 05/02/2011 10:40:16 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: bvw

You’ve posted (to me) another non-sequitur, kinda figures by now.


82 posted on 05/02/2011 5:54:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sure, sure.


83 posted on 05/02/2011 5:59:20 PM PDT by bvw
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