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Raid that got bin Laden was culmination of years of work, sr. admin officials say
http://washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 05/02/11 | Philip Klein

Posted on 05/01/2011 11:30:46 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Apparently, the key to the whole operation was finding and tracking Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, a process that took years — and involved info given by Guantanamo detainees:

Sunday afternoon’s raid by U.S. forces that killed Osama bin Laden was the “culmination of years of careful and highly advanced intelligence work,” senior administration officials said in a conference call, describing the genesis of an operation that sounded like it was right out of a “Mission Impossible” movie.

Some time after Sept. 11, detainees held by the U.S. told interrogators about a man believed to work as a courier for bin Laden, senior administration officials said. The man was described by detainees as a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and “one of the few Al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin laden.”

Initially, intelligence officials only had the man’s nickname, but they discovered his real name four years ago.

Two years ago, intelligence officials began to identify areas of Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated, and the great security precautions the two men took aroused U.S. suspicions.

Last August, intelligence officials tracked the men to their residence in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a relatively wealthy town 35 miles north of Islamabad where many retired military officers live.

“When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw,” a senior administration official said.

The compound was eight times larger than any other home in the area. It was surrounded by walls measuring 12 feet to 18 feet that were topped with barbed wire. There were additional inner walls that sectioned off parts of the compound and entry was restricted by two security gates. And the residents burned their trash instead of leaving it outside for pickup. There was a three-story house on the site, with a 7-foot privacy wall on the top floor.

While the two brothers, the couriers, had no known source of income, the compound was built in 2005 and valued at $1 million. That led intelligence officials to conclude that it must have been built to hold a high-value member of Al Qaeda.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/raid-got-bin-laden-was-culmination-years-work-sr-admin-official-s#ixzz1LAodut4D


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2005; 2009; abbotabad; abbottabad; abottabad; binladen; brothers; compound; courier; couriers; deaddeaddead; detainees; ksm; navyseals; pakistan; raid

1 posted on 05/01/2011 11:30:48 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

In other words, Bush got the ball rolling on this;)


2 posted on 05/01/2011 11:35:25 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Obama taking credit for this is like Harry Truman taking credit for winning WWII.


3 posted on 05/01/2011 11:36:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Para-Ord.45; silent_jonny; ohioWfan; STARWISE; Kaslin

In other words, getting Osama bin Laden really is due to the hard work and persistence of President George W. Bush and what he put in place beginning shortly after 9/11/2001. All Barack Obama did was not get in the way, then give the final go order at the end. Then he stepped up and took the glory, of course.


4 posted on 05/01/2011 11:36:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dfwgator

I think that’s a little exaggerated. Obama has been President for 2 and a half years almost. It’s not like Truman who took over on Apr 12 and the Germans surrendered on May 6.

He should get credit. He continued the efforts, he built on the leads, he was able to make sure that none of this was leaked(I’m amazed at that and I think most people are). He made the decision not to share this with any other countries or people outside the US. He ordered an assault into a sovereign nation armed with nuclear weapons! That’s a pretty big deal. Probably never been done before in history. If this went bad he would have taken all the heat. He pulled the trigger, he made the decision, and it worked.

I’m not saying he did it 100%, but he should get credit. As should Panetta, et al.

I don’t like him but I give him credit on this one.


5 posted on 05/01/2011 11:41:40 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Wolfstar; All

YEARS of steady, non-stop diligence .. and buckets of blood, sweat and tears .. the foundations of which operations and hard work were planned and begun by President George W. Bush! God bless him dearly for all his resolve and the unparalled courage of our incredible troops!


6 posted on 05/01/2011 11:42:06 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Bush’s “Torture” (aka waterboarding) of KSM lead to the killing of 0sama by 0bama, who objected to the “torture.”

What a hoot!

0bama takes credit for the fruits of “torture”. I love it. GWB lives in 0bummer’s brain, free of charge.


7 posted on 05/01/2011 11:42:57 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Frank_2001
"In other words, Bush got the ball rolling on this;)"An Inconvenient Truth. Obama ran on ending the policies that ended up killing this A-hole.

Moral of the story is to ALWAYS short Obama.

8 posted on 05/01/2011 11:43:07 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: jeltz25

I agree. A mature answer...which means many here won’t like it.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 11:44:01 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Para-Ord.45

10 posted on 05/01/2011 11:45:32 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: jeltz25

Maybe so, and in fact, I think Obama was motivated by the fact that he could rub it in Bush’s nose, if he did get UBL.

Now let’s see what he does with Mullah Omar, and Zawahiri.


11 posted on 05/01/2011 11:45:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: STARWISE
YEARS of steady, non-stop diligence .. and buckets of blood, sweat and tears .. the foundations of which operations and hard work were planned and begun by President George W. Bush! God bless him dearly for all his resolve and the unparalled courage of our incredible troops!

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld did all the design work and the building for this successful mission by our military. BHO was merely a passive observer.

And here's a dusty classic from a decade ago that came to fruition in spite of the impediments erected by the illegal _resident at 1600:

chmod +x /bin/laden


12 posted on 05/01/2011 11:47:15 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Frank_2001

Sort of a dual credit. GWB gets credit for getting it underway, and BHO gets credit for not screwing it up.


13 posted on 05/01/2011 11:47:36 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Wolfstar

Exactly right.


14 posted on 05/01/2011 11:50:07 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Thank you, President Bush and God bless the US military)
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To: jeltz25

He deserves some, but it is limited. This is politically a win, so it takes little bravery to make the decisions he made. As another mentioned, this is similar to the Seals action against the pirates near Somalia. He gives the final go ahead, but it is countless others doing the work and take the risks. I never heard Bush work so hard to take credit as Obama did tonight, and that tells us quite a bit.

To his credit, he demonstrates significantly more leadership here than Clinton did as CIC. Clinton was terrible in these situations, getting too much in the way. Obama let the smart people do what they wanted to do here. It is a different time, though. Post 9/11 is radically different than before.


15 posted on 05/01/2011 11:50:42 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Para-Ord.45

that photo been around since 2010?

http://windowintopalestine.blogspot.com/2010/11/years-of-deceit-us-openly-accepts-bin.html


16 posted on 05/01/2011 11:54:16 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: Para-Ord.45

This sounds much more like an Army / Gray Fox / ISA Op than an Agency Op.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 11:55:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
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To: dfwgator
Obama taking credit for this is like Harry Truman taking credit for winning WWII.

At least old Harry had the cojones to use the bomb. Twice!

18 posted on 05/01/2011 11:55:34 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: dfwgator

I mean, I’m still astounded by him going after a country with nukes. That takes big ones. And he didn’t pull the Clinton act of telling them ahead of time which may have warned him and allowed him to escape(like what happened in the 90s). Even Reagan’s raid on Libya in 86 we told people ahead of time and it allowed him to get out of dodge. He managed to keep this totally secure. Abbottabad and Rawalpindi are heavy military areas in Pakistan. It can’t be that easy to fly a few choppers in there with a huge assault force. What if the Paks picked up on it and thought India was coming after them or something?

He’ll get big creidt for this and barring some huge economic collapse(much worse than it is now, a new recession, 10%+ unemployment, $5+ gas, etc...) it likely sealed his re-election.


19 posted on 05/02/2011 12:07:27 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

I can’t say with certainty, but I am sure both Obama and Bush made it clear to the Paki government that were coming after OBL where ever he is. I am sure Paki probably gave their blessing for that, for no other reason than they could not deny such a request with the world pressure post 9/11. As I said before, Obama did his job here, but it was nothing extraordinary.


20 posted on 05/02/2011 12:11:20 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: jeltz25
it likely sealed his re-election.

Most Americans will have other things on their minds in the next 18 days, never mind the next 18 months.

How did that work out for GHWB when he went from a 90% post war approval rating to a defeat at the polls in.......18 months?

21 posted on 05/02/2011 12:34:48 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: jeltz25
I agree with every word of your 2 posts until the last sentence.

George HW Bush had 90% approval after the first Gulf War and it evaporated before the election lasting only long enough to intimidate Democrats except Bill Clinton away from running.

Pretty soon the stories will emerge which will diminish Obama's role relatives to the role of the professionals and expose the shameless self-promotion in which he engaged in his announcement. But you are right, Obama deserves a certain amount of credit and we should give it to him.


22 posted on 05/02/2011 12:51:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SideoutFred

A mature answer ???
Possibly an election changer.We ‘know’ it’s going to be close and if even a few milque toast ‘middle of the roaders’ are influenced by this it could be the difference.
I was struck by the I ME ism of bo’s announcement.


23 posted on 05/02/2011 12:53:32 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl

He still has a little problem of the US economy going bankrupt!


24 posted on 05/02/2011 12:57:36 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: jeltz25

You are nuts. We snagged Osama despite Obama/ Our military gets all the glory not Bammy Boy


25 posted on 05/02/2011 12:59:18 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: ilgipper
Are you sure he even new what was really going on? The true intelligence people and our Military may have only given him what they wanted him to know.

Final act, tell him if he didn't approve the raid, they would let it be known that he refused. His refusal would have been his political suicide. Left him with no choice.

26 posted on 05/02/2011 1:20:48 AM PDT by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Sort of a dual credit. GWB gets credit for getting it underway, and BHO gets credit for not screwing it up.

Lets not forget to credit those magnificent young men in their flying machines! Go navy seals!!

27 posted on 05/02/2011 5:26:39 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Always Independent

You know how they’re going to spin that!
repubs are protecting the rich - refusing to raise wealthy taxes. They want safety net programs to fail, etc....
(sarc of course)


28 posted on 05/02/2011 5:28:08 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: dfwgator
Obama could have shut the whole operation down. Of course, he used the KOS kids/DUmmies and those who think like them for fools in believing he shut down certain intelligence techniques/detainment areas.

A political gold mine for Obama, too bad they could not get him alive though. Must give the totalitarian CIC credit for this episode, despite the obvious dubious intentions.

29 posted on 05/02/2011 5:38:26 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: jeltz25

I think that’s a little exaggerated. Obama has been President for 2 and a half years almost. It’s not like Truman who took over on Apr 12 and the Germans surrendered on May 6.


And what is the genesis of the leads to got OBL??? Enhanced interrogation techniques on Guantanamo detainees.

Wasn’t this a major campaign issue for Obama and the loony left? As a matter of fact, wasn’t it Obama who released to the press the memos of our EITs?

Of course no mention will be made of this...


30 posted on 05/02/2011 7:18:57 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: nathanbedford

Pretty soon the stories will emerge which will diminish Obama’s role relatives to the role of the professionals and expose the shameless self-promotion in which he engaged in his announcement. But you are right, Obama deserves a certain amount of credit and we should give it to him.


And every time Obama or the loony lefties bring up the fact that “Obama got Osama” let us remind them the leads derived from enhanced interrogation techniques used on Guantanamo detainees.

Obama intended to close Guantanamo and also released to the world the memos of our EITs for all to see. Let us remind them of this as well!


31 posted on 05/02/2011 7:22:43 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: aumrl

Yes, a mature answer. I tip my hat to Obama for seeing this through. I think he and Hillary are naive has hell to think this is all going to stop and doves are going to come out of terrorist butts, but I do give him credit for taking him out.

I am beyond pissed at the left this morning with their little play on words saying “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” as they mock Bush. I find that be incredibly distasteful. If anyone should be mocked, it should be Clinton who had multiple opportunities to take Bin Laden out but didn’t. That led to 9-11.

There is plenty I don’t like about Obama, but today I’m pleased he had the courage to continue to pursuit of Osama and took him out. I believe that is a mature answer.


32 posted on 05/02/2011 7:38:55 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Wolfstar
All Barack Obama did was not get in the way, then give the final go order at the end. Then he stepped up and took the glory, of course.

I'm really glad to know that in the end.......in the final analysis........Obama will NOT get the glory he so vainly piles upon his own head.

I'm actually surprised that he didn't state outright that he, by himself, accomplished what the eeeevil Bush could never do.

Never mind that it was all Bush policies that he campaigned against and didn't throw out once in office, that got bin Laden. Never mind that he campaigned to get rid of Gitmo, that he said there WAS no "War on Terror," never mind all those pesky facts.

He and his MSM minions just see this as a political plus for the freak show.

But the American people KNOW. WE KNOW.

33 posted on 05/02/2011 10:24:05 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: jeltz25

PAKIS KNEW EXACTLY WHERE OBL WAS LIVING:

On where he was found:

Abbottabad is essentially a military-cantonment city in Pakistan, in the hills to the north of the capital of Islamabad, in an area where much of the land is controlled or owned by the Pakistani Army and retired Army officers. Although the city is technically in what used to be called the Northwest Frontier Province, it lies on the far eastern side of the province and is as close to Pakistani-held Kashmir as it is to the border city of Peshawar. The city is most notable for housing the Pakistan Military Academy, the Pakistani Army’s premier training college, equivalent to West Point. Looking at maps and satellite photos on the Web last night, I saw the wide expanse of the Academy not far from where the million-dollar, heavily secured mansion where bin Laden lived was constructed in 2005. The maps I looked at had sections of land nearby marked off as “restricted areas,” indicating that they were under military control. It stretches credulity to think that a mansion of that scale could have been built and occupied by bin Laden for six years without its coming to the attention of anyone in the Pakistani Army.

The initial circumstantial evidence suggests that the opposite is more likely—that bin Laden was effectively being housed under Pakistani state control.

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/notes-on-the-death-of-osama-bin-laden.html#ixzz1LDeDciCK


34 posted on 05/02/2011 11:12:25 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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