Who has read "Hillary's Secret War?"

Amazon ^ | 2004 | Richard Poe

[netmilsmom]

I'm seeing thread and posts condemning those who are questioning the BC issue and the OBL issue. People who are asking are being called names and belittled for those questions. I will say up front that I am a "Trust but Verify" person. That's why I like Free Republic. It has been a long standing tradition to put everything out, all facts, rumors and questions. The group then sorts them and comes up with a reasonable conclusion. If you doubt that, read the book, "Hillary's Secret War" by FReeper Richard Poe. You will see how it happened back in the 90's. You'll see FReepernames you know, and you'll see Jim Robinson wrote the forward.

Please be kind with corrections of issues to other FReepers. If someone is posting something that you know to be proven false, please correct it with kindness and help us all out. Obvious trolls are always taken care of by the Admins. Help us all out and lets work like the classic FReepers did.

I want the truth, all the truth and nothing but the truth. Sometimes you have to wade through a lot of trash to get that.

[netmilsmom]

I am pinging you here out of courtesy in the mention of your name.

[netmilsmom]

Ping

[pillut48]

Standing shoulder to shoulder with you on this, netmilsmom! Full agreement with all you wrote.

[reagandemocrat]

Read it, hell, my copy is SIGNED by Jim Robinson.

[brownsfan]

As long as I’ve been here, FreeRepublic has always had an edge.

Posting here is done at your own peril. If you don’t have thick skin, it may be better to lurk.

I believe the posting rules keep comments from going over the top, but corrections aren’t always done gently, that’s just how it is.

[mnehring]

courtesy ping FRiend.

[netmilsmom]

Jealous!

Mine is just an Amazon copy, but I remember reading it and wishing I was a FReeper then.

[netmilsmom]

OMG, thank you!
My apologies Mr. Poe, I forgot to ping you.

[Uncle Ike]

Thank you for posting this...

It’s nice to know that others confirm my observation that ‘discussion’ on FR has degenerated into vicious ad-hominem attacks at the slightest sign of disagreement or, God Forbid, dissent...

I realize that a lot of it is a ‘sign of the times’ - we’re all angry and frustrated (and at least a little bit frightened) about what’s happening to our beloved Nation — but turning on our FRiends, and demonizing those who disagree, is way below what we should expect of ourselves as FReepers...

my $0.0000002

[JoeProBono]

[CondorFlight]

From a CUSTOMER REVIEW at the site:

“Research on conformity began in 1951, when Solomon Asch studied groups of seven to nine people who were told they were participating in a study on visual perception. . .

“The challenge for mass marketers is isolating an individual, surrounding the subject with 5 or 6 confederates who will repeat only the ‘marketing line’ and elicit effective conformity and compliance. . .

“The fly in the ointment for mass marketers is a lone dissenter, a devil’s advocate. The dissenter allows others who may have questions to voice their objections. The dissenter gives other potential dissenters an ally.

“Asch showed in his studies that just one other person who disagrees with the group decreased conformity substantially. Milgram also found this to be true. If the subject hears only one dissenting voice, the probability they will abandon their own opinion drops. In terms of the emperor’s new clothes, the scales fall from the eyes and the guy is just naked. “

[jla]

I've read it and it was awful. Poe doesn't reveal anything one cannot find on the www, whether true or not. It's basically nothing more than a composite of articles written about the Clinton's. Very speculative; no hard facts.

Aside: A former member here, the erudite, and lovely, Mia T, exposed far more nefarious deeds of the Clinton's than Poe has.

[netmilsmom]

I think there is a difference between being strong is your corrections and just accusing people of being conspiracy nuts.

In order to sort facts, the facts have to be brought out. Just yelling and making fun of those who asked questions will shut down what FR has been.

Ask Buckhead.

[netmilsmom]

>>I’ve read it and it was awful. Poe doesn’t reveal anything one cannot find on the www, whether true or not. It’s basically nothing more than a composite of articles written about the Clinton’s. Very speculative; no hard facts.<<

Are you sure you have the right book?
I’m was just sitting here rereading the part about Andrew Breitbart and marveling at how much it’s similar to Breitbart’s new book.

[Quix]

I want the truth, all the truth and nothing but the truth. Sometimes you have to wade through a lot of trash to get that.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

I post tons and tons of stuff I know is likely mostly . . . maybe even 99.99% dross, chaff, disinformation, whatever.

HOWEVER,

I also believe the COLLECTIVE FREEPER ‘MIND’ IS AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL analytical tool.

And given the massive numbers of puzzle pieces that comprise our extremely complex era—we

MUST

examine AS MANY PUZZLE PIECES AS POSSIBLE

like the massive intelligence vaccuum that FREEPERS are

and THEN

we must sift and sort and prioritize etc.

It’s a MESSY JOB.

It’s a messy strategy.

Of course there will be many TYPE I *AND* TYPE II ERRORS.

I don’t know of a better one short of Holy Spirit speaking directly to us.

People seem to underestimate the value in thousands of FREEPERS brainstorming off of one another to come up with a more potent, powerful analysis, conclusion.

All the more so when many are Spirit led.

[mel]

I really don’t like that when people get nasty on here. And it is odd, some people get bent out of shape over something and then I read it and I get a totally different meaning of what the peson was saying
Melissa

[mel]

I recall once I simply posted that I didn’t like Wal Mart and I somehow I got accused of being a troll.

[netmilsmom]

>>People seem to underestimate the value in thousands of FREEPERS brainstorming off of one another to come up with a more potent, powerful analysis, conclusion.

All the more so when many are Spirit led.<<

Amen!!!

[Quix]

Thanks for your kind reply.

[netmilsmom]

>>I recall once I simply posted that I didn’t like Wal Mart and I somehow I got accused of being a troll.<<

I’m so sorry. I’ve had people get downright nasty with me too. I remember coming here a LONG time ago and having someone tell me that I need a flameproof suit. I had no clue what he was talking about!

[Quix]

I DISAGREE.

That was a good $100,000 worth, at least.

Bless you FR Bro.

[Waco]

Hillary is a marxist, all I need to know about her.

[Quix]

I think there is a difference between being strong is your corrections and just accusing people of being conspiracy nuts.

In order to sort facts, the facts have to be brought out. Just yelling and making fun of those who asked questions will shut down what FR has been.

Ask Buckhead.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

And in such a VERY COMPLEX WORLD,

even educated, experienced, well researched facts

are extremely hard to discern in many many cases.

So . . . get ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE OUT ON THE TABLE—EVEN OBVIOUSLY OFF THE WALL STUFF.

One NEVER KNOWS which tiny puzzle piece will lead to real gold.

[netmilsmom]

Right back at you, my FRiend!

[Quix]

. . . plenty true . . .

Her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous . . . Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Pol Pot de Mao de Che de Arafart . . . de Sade

is BAD news from any perspective, direction . . . . dimension.

[Richard Poe]

mnehring wrote: courtesy ping FRiend.

netmilsmom wrote:My apologies Mr. Poe, I forgot to ping you.

Thanks for the pings!

[Richard Poe]

netmilsmom wrote: "If you doubt that, read the book, 'Hillary's Secret War' by FReeper Richard Poe. You will see how it happened back in the 90's. You'll see FReepernames you know, and you'll see Jim Robinson wrote the forward."

Thanks for the plug!

[Richard Poe]

jla wrote: "I’ve read it and it was awful. Poe doesn’t reveal anything one cannot find on the www, whether true or not. It’s basically nothing more than a composite of articles written about the Clintons. Very speculative; no hard facts."

netmilsmom wrote: Are you sure you have the right book? I was just sitting here rereading the part about Andrew Breitbart and marveling at how much it’s similar to Breitbart’s new book."

Thanks for defending my book (against jla's criticism)!

[netmilsmom]

Now when I meet you, you can autograph my copy. :)

Seriously, people should read it. We are repeating history and some people here don’t even seem to realize there was a past.

[Richard Poe]

jla wrote: "I've read [Hillary's Secret War] and it was awful. Poe doesn't reveal anything one cannot find on the www, whether true or not. It's basically nothing more than a composite of articles written about the Clintons. Very speculative; no hard facts."

Dear jla:

I am sorry that you did not like my book. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. However, your post went beyond mere opinionating. It contained misleading information, which I must now correct.

Contrary to what you wrote, Hillary's Secret War is not a "composite of articles written about the Clintons." In fact, the book does not even pretend to be "about the Clintons." It is about the "New Underground" -- my name for the New Media pioneers who battled the Clintons, through dissident Web sites such as NewsMax, WorldNetDaily, FrontPageMag, JewishWorldReview, The Drudge Report, FreeRepublic and the now-defunct SierraTimes.

Hillary's Secret War was based on exclusive, in-depth interviews with New Media pioneers such as Joseph Farah, Christopher Ruddy, David Horowitz, Andrew Breitbart, Binyamin Jolkovsky, Missy Kelly, J.J. Johnson, and many more -- including various Freepers who took part in street actions during the disputed election of 2000.

From this research, I was able to demonstrate that dissident Web sites -- especially FreeRepublic and WorldNetDaily -- played a major role in thwarting Democrat efforts to steal the 2000 election. Not only was this fact unknown to the general public when I wrote the book, but mainstream journalists and historians, to this day, remain completely in the dark regarding those events.

Let me add that, when I interviewed and wrote about Andrew Breitbart in Hillary's Secret War, most people did not even know that Breitbart existed.

[wolfcreek]

It’s Hell when you ‘think” you’re right. (but you’re not)

[netmilsmom]

>>It’s Hell when you ‘think” you’re right. (but you’re not)<<

It’s even worse when you find out that the person you’ve been telling how wrong they are, is right. It works both ways. That’s all I’m saying, we need to let the plethora of knowledgeable FReepers read and discern before we peg everyone as wrong.

They didn’t do that during Clinton and we shouldn’t do it now.

[wolfcreek]

Agree!

[Richard Poe]

Oops! I left out the most important person in post #31. I left out Jim Robinson! Here's how I should have written it:

"Hillary's Secret War was based on exclusive, in-depth interviews with New Media pioneers such as Joseph Farah, Christopher Ruddy, David Horowitz, Andrew Breitbart, Binyamin Jolkovsky, Missy Kelly, J.J. Johnson... AND JIM ROBINSON."

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks netmilsmom.