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Bin Laden Given Religious Funeral Prior to Sea Burial
Foxnews.com ^ | 5/2/2011

Posted on 05/02/2011 9:43:43 AM PDT by KansasGirl

DEVELOPING: Usama bin Laden was given a religious funeral prior to his burial at sea, senior military officials told Fox News.

Religious rites were conducted on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier at about 1:10 a.m. Monday in the Persian Gulf.

In accordance with Islamic practice, bin Laden was washed and wrapped in a white sheet before buried at sea at 2 p.m. local time, senior U.S. military and intelligence officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushlegacy; carlvinson; clintonlegacy; deathers; gitmo; islam; islamicterrorism; muslimtroops; obama; obamalegacy; obl; operationgeronimo; osama; proislamist; respectforterrorists; terrorism; terrorist; usscarlvinson; victory; wagthecamel; waronterror; wot
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To: KansasGirl

51 posted on 05/02/2011 10:01:53 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Responsibility2nd
Relative to my post. I said that most muzzies would do as bin Laden did.

Well, maybe not most. Only millions and millions.....

Osama bin Laden was a symbol of the Islamic jihad. After 9/11, surveys by al-Jazeera and other sources indicated that between 10% and 50% of Muslims regarded him as a hero. That is somewhere between 150 million and 750 million people.

52 posted on 05/02/2011 10:02:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: KansasGirl

Obama is insane. I think that too many joint chiefs were advising we had to get him that Obama could not refuse without looking odd. I also think that his chief of staff told him if he did this he would be re elected and go up in the polls.

So Obama did this for political reasons therefore ordering this hit and then giving the man a funeral.

It is nuts. You don’t negotiate nor honor a terrorist. Obama honored him with a funeral. Imagine the Islamic military chaplains face when he was ordered to give OBL a “funeral.”
Sorry but I think OBL was thrown over a dinghy after serum and pictures were taken.

WHY was news saying last night the US had OBL’s body?


53 posted on 05/02/2011 10:03:44 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Republican Extremist

Bury him in the bottom of a public port-a-potty somewhere near Ground Zero.


54 posted on 05/02/2011 10:04:08 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Lazlo in PA
Wouldn't entombing his body at some site where he can be worshiped by the filthy rag heads be more dangerous? Dumping this garbage at sea is not a bad idea.

That was my thought. A burial site would become a shrine. Anyway, they said on the radio that it was difficult to find a country that would accept his body, and they only have 24 hours to bury him.

55 posted on 05/02/2011 10:04:08 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: KansasGirl

How much information do we have to give out?


56 posted on 05/02/2011 10:05:53 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: KansasGirl

Followed by an immediate purge of the carrier’s sewage system?


57 posted on 05/02/2011 10:06:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: RickB444

Yeeesh cant we be happy he’s gone? I cant believe all the tin foil types here on fr lately.


58 posted on 05/02/2011 10:06:19 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: Lazlo in PA

I don’t think bringing this “not a muslim leader” home for a positive ID and secretly disposing of the body would’ve been very difficult for the military to do at all.


59 posted on 05/02/2011 10:06:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: KansasGirl

I Osama wasn’t a muslim....or was that Obama?


60 posted on 05/02/2011 10:06:57 AM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: outhousepatrol

I’d do a #2.


61 posted on 05/02/2011 10:07:03 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Lazlo in PA

I don’t think bringing this “not a muslim leader” home for a positive ID and secretly disposing of the body would’ve been very difficult for the military to do at all.


62 posted on 05/02/2011 10:07:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cyman
I try...
63 posted on 05/02/2011 10:09:26 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Mr. Silverback

Didn’t they end up moving a lot of debris to a dump, and remains were found there later? How respectful is that?


64 posted on 05/02/2011 10:09:55 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Moleman

Tin foil types? Hey moleman, what part of you don’t negotiate nor honor terrorists don’t you understand?


65 posted on 05/02/2011 10:10:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: KansasGirl

Let me be the first, “WHERE’S THE DEATH CERTIFICATE?”


66 posted on 05/02/2011 10:10:51 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (")
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To: KansasGirl
bin Laden was washed and wrapped in a white sheet before buried at sea being attached to the catapult and launched into the ocean   at 2 p.m. local time

There, I fixed it.

67 posted on 05/02/2011 10:11:13 AM PDT by txroadkill ( We're sooooooo screwed!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

When I was a kid, I remember pictures in LIFE magazine of some dictator who had been killed (Mussolini?).
His body was hung upside down against a building.
The pic was of an old woman spitting on it.
This is what should have happened to osama.
I’d have done more than spitting...


68 posted on 05/02/2011 10:11:21 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: KansasGirl

My BIL is out on the Vinson. If this is true, he must be fuming...


69 posted on 05/02/2011 10:12:42 AM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: RickB444
It just seems odd to me that this news comes out right after Barry’s BC was released (which appears to be as fake as this killing of OBL is).

The timing of this right after that BC being posted is odd, to say the least. I don't believe anything this admin says either.

70 posted on 05/02/2011 10:12:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The American taxpayer cannot support the tax and spend habits of DC.)
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To: PghBaldy

A mistake is not disrespect.

When the people working at ground Zero knew they were dealing with human remains they treated them with the utmost respect. To suggest otherwise is to insult people who poured themselves out daily in work there, people who in some cases will die or have diminished lung function for the rest of their lives because they were there day after day.


71 posted on 05/02/2011 10:13:06 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: null and void

I want some proof


72 posted on 05/02/2011 10:13:07 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: VAFreedom

I would like to think that somebody slipped in a few slices of bacon into that white sheet before sending it overboard.


73 posted on 05/02/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: RickB444
"Why not bring the body back and have it carefully examined and the identification verified 100%?"

Why bring the body back when all you need is a tissue sample. DNA doesn't require a body, it literally only requires a cell.

And, if you bring the body back, the transpo time alone exceeds the Islamic burial standard. Why unnecessarily poke our enemy in the eye, creating a point of sympathy for bin Laden adherents in that part of the world.

The burial at sea makes COMPLETE sense. No, it's not entirely in the Muslim tradition, but it does foreclose the possibility of a large shrine being built to house the "martyr". The burial at sea is something of a stroke of genius.

74 posted on 05/02/2011 10:14:43 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: TheShaz
Deep in the Indian Ocean, a giant barracuda scavenges an unexpected feast...

75 posted on 05/02/2011 10:15:40 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

It’s a pretty big mistake. Thanks for saying I insulted them though.


76 posted on 05/02/2011 10:15:45 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: KansasGirl

I’d have preferred a woodchipper.


77 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:00 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: KansasGirl
Bin Laden's Sea Burial Violates Islamic Tradition
78 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:02 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Moleman

I am glad he’s dead. Even can understand the decision to dump his body at sea. Giving him a religious funeral prior to dumping his body is just too much though.


79 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:04 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: outhousepatrol

Will the crabs spit him out?....


80 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:21 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: proud American in Canada
That was my thought. A burial site would become a shrine.

Bury him right next to the Fukushima Daiichi power plant, and let his admirers file in and visit...

81 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:02 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Moleman

Also, they should have burned his body. He thought that was good enough for the people he murdered.


82 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:27 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

Well that was fast. Hmmm


83 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:27 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: KansasGirl

I'm Glad You're DEAD!
84 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:58 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: OldDeckHand

It’s 11 am there now.

I went back through the threads from last night and the news began talking about it shortly after midnight (central - my time)here so you know it was already a done deal. That’s two hours after Obama’s speech at 10 pm (central). Midnight here would have been 11 am in Pakistan. Reports are saying the attack was at 1:30 to 2:00 am there. That backs up the many posts from last night that he was dumped within 10 hours.


85 posted on 05/02/2011 10:21:02 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: OldDeckHand

There is no genius to it. Now they can have a thousand shrines facing the sea in honor of him. Capitulating to the 24 burial rule made the United States seem weak and timid.

I am sure he got respectful burial at sea with all the religious traditions intact. With a white sheet wrapped around his body and Koran in hand, he was gently lowered into the sea. I am sure he had a Muslim Imam blessing the body and providing a service to make sure that Osama can enter Jannah (their Heaven).

All this bought and paid for by the United States government is beyond reproach! This is after the president’s words of Osama not being representative of Muslims, but a killer of Muslims (this made me cringe that he had to go out of his way to be politically correct). Obama has to ruin everything, he just can’t man up and do something right.


86 posted on 05/02/2011 10:21:23 AM PDT by BushCountry (Make Love Not Kinetic Military Action)
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To: KansasGirl

I don’t really care at all about this, but, doesn’t this violate the “Separation between Church and State”? :)


87 posted on 05/02/2011 10:23:44 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama gets Trumped.)
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To: KansasGirl

Muslims strive to bury the deceased as soon as possible after death, avoiding the need for embalming or otherwise disturbing the body of the deceased. An autopsy may be performed, if necessary, but should be done with the utmost respect for the dead.

Washing and Shrouding

In preparation for burial, the family or other members of the community will wash and shroud the body. (If the deceased was killed as a martyr, this step is not performed; martyrs are buried in the clothes they died in.) The deceased will be washed respectfully, with clean and scented water, in a manner similar to how Muslims make ablutions for prayer. The body will then be wrapped in sheets of clean, white cloth (called the kafan).

Funeral Prayers

The deceased is then transported to the site of the funeral prayers (salat-l-janazah). These prayers are commonly held outdoors, in a courtyard or public square, not inside the mosque. The community gathers, and the imam (prayer leader) stands in front of the deceased, facing away from the worshippers. The funeral prayer is similar in structure to the five daily prayers, with a few variations. (For example, there is no bowing or prostration, and the entire prayer is said silently but for a few words.)

Burial

The deceased is then taken to the cemetery for burial (al-dafin). While all members of the community attend the funeral prayers, only the men of the community accompany the body to the gravesite. It is preferred for a Muslim to be buried where he or she died, and not be transported to another location or country (which may cause delays or require embalming the body). If available, a cemetery (or section of one) set aside for Muslims is preferred. The deceased is laid in the grave (without a coffin if permitted by local law) on his or her right side, facing Mecca. At the gravesite, it is discouraged for people to erect tombstones, elaborate markers, or put flowers or other momentos. Rather, one should humbly remember Allah and His mercy, and pray for the deceased.

Mourning

Loved ones and relatives are to observe a 3-day mourning period. Mourning is observed in Islam by increased devotion, receiving visitors and condolences, and avoiding decorative clothing and jewelry. Widows observe an extended mourning period (iddah), 4 months and 10 days long, in accordance with the Qur'an 2:234. During this time, she is not to remarry, move from her home, or wear decorative clothing or jewelry.

When one dies, everything in this earthly life is left behind, and there are no more opportunities to perform acts of righteousness and faith. The Prophet Muhammad once said that there are three things, however, which may continue to benefit a person after death: charity given during life which continues to help others, knowledge from which people continue to benefit, and a righteous child who prays for him or her.

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88 posted on 05/02/2011 10:24:54 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: seeker41

Exactly! The only thi g tbey did adhere to is they washed him and wrapped him in a cloth of linen probably.Once in the water they have no idea of which way he faces.Hopefully he ended @$$ up facing Mecca.


89 posted on 05/02/2011 10:25:23 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Republican Extremist

Immediately following the service, the Cat officer fired the body off the deck of the Carl Vinson and into Neptunes realm.

Bon appetite, Sharky.


90 posted on 05/02/2011 10:25:38 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: seeker41

Exactly! The only thing they did adhere to is they washed him and wrapped him in a cloth of linen(probably).Once in the water they have no idea of which way he faces.Hopefully he ended @$$ up facing Mecca.


91 posted on 05/02/2011 10:25:52 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Wouldn’t entombing his body at some site where he can be worshiped by the filthy rag heads be more dangerous? Dumping this garbage at sea is not a bad idea.”

Agreed. Think about what the Israelis did with Adolf Eichmann’s body after his execution —took it into international waters and dumped it so it couldn’t become a shrine for neo-Nazis.


92 posted on 05/02/2011 10:27:49 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (There are only two "classes" of people left in the U.S. - Producers and Parasites.)
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To: KansasGirl
It doesn't matter.

He's now being administered JUSTICE by the Creator of the Universe, the Holy and Righteous God, the God of wrath and righteousness.

This truly doesn't matter. Osama is now facing an eternity of torture. God is JUST.

93 posted on 05/02/2011 10:28:35 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: PghBaldy

“Didn’t they end up moving a lot of debris to a dump, and remains were found there later? How respectful is that?”


Aw,come on.

They were as respectful as they could be under the circumstances.


94 posted on 05/02/2011 10:30:22 AM PDT by Mears
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To: KansasGirl

Maybe, just maybe, a sailor snuck some pork rinds into his open wounds.


95 posted on 05/02/2011 10:31:21 AM PDT by pollwatcher (I'll have plenty of time to vote Democratic.... after I'm dead...)
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To: Moleman

If he IS gone I am happy. But I can’t believe the liberal pukes like you who are posting on FR lately. Go back to MoveOn.org where you’re appreciated. We don’t tolerate fools here.


96 posted on 05/02/2011 10:31:38 AM PDT by RickB444 (Worry about and distrust anyone who fears a lawful person owning a gun.)
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To: TankerKC

Ask him if anyone was ordered to be in a Color Guard.


97 posted on 05/02/2011 10:32:26 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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98 posted on 05/02/2011 10:32:44 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Wouldn’t entombing his body at some site where he can be worshiped by the filthy rag heads be more dangerous? Dumping this garbage at sea is not a bad idea.”

Agreed. Think about what the Israelis did with Adolf Eichmann’s body after his execution —took it into international waters and dumped it so it couldn’t become a shrine for neo-Nazis.


99 posted on 05/02/2011 10:32:54 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (There are only two "classes" of people left in the U.S. - Producers and Parasites.)
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To: windcliff; onedoug; raven92876

ping


100 posted on 05/02/2011 10:33:19 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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