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Tickerguy Flips A-A [A-A-K-x-x Board] (Birth Certificate)
The Market Ticker ^ | May 2, 2011 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by kiryandil

You knew I had pocket rockets, right?  How often have you seen me come up with something on The Ticker without a fairly-decent set of evidence behind what I had to say?

It's time to call the curtain on this game and then go back to economics.

Find me one typewriter in the world, anywhere, that can perform kerning and I will believe this "certificate" is real.

For the uninitiated, "kerning" is the process of manipulating the spacing of letters to make the appearance more pleasing.  Here's an example from this Ticker itself:

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1595

This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is.  With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with knowledge of what the previous one was.

A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device.  It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character and the impression.  It has to, lest letters run together and look like utter crap.

Typesetters (offset printing machines and similar) perform kerning - in fact, it's part of typesetting.  But typewriters do not, cannot, and never have.

This, of course, is why the typed Birth Certificate has kerned text in it.

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1598

Oh, and before you say "that's an artifact of what the White House did with their automated process", here's the same thing on the AP copy, which is a simple picture scanned in, with no post-processing of materiality I can detect and no layers.

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1597

Oh darn.

Incidentally this is not the only example, as I show in the video.

To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future.

I'm sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. "sloppy carriage") for these results.  But at the end of the day, here's the point: Exactly how many of these "explanations" have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document?  Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance. 

How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?

Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby.  There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year.  There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more "pretty" than any other kid's, or for any sort of special treatment.  Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.

What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?

Now about that forensic analysis we should have done on the alleged document that allegedly is in the files at the Hawaii Registrar's office in order to see if it's really 50ish years old.....  This is the only way we are going to get the truth.  Will the American people, Congress, or someone (e.g. a judge) demand defensible truth on this topic?  We damn well should.

(I think that's my pot in the center of the table.  Would you help me push the rather-large pile of chips over here please?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yVkL94_BU

PS: This is exactly how Dan Rather got caught - typography that was impossible to produce using the alleged tool the "document" was created with.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; enoughalready; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:27 AM PDT by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil
updates from today's eligibility trial ..CSPAN to broadcast oral arguments live.
2 posted on 05/02/2011 11:15:34 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: kiryandil

I’m mostly staying off these threads, because I think this is now like the JFK assassination: whatever the truth may be, I don’t think it matters. “They” won’t let the story be shaken. Neither party, no branch of government, and neither the feds, nor the states, really want to consider evidence that this is all a massive fraud. Which is not to say that is is a fraud. It just means that the final version of the story has been accepted, and further investigation into the matter will not be considered by the powers that be.


3 posted on 05/02/2011 11:17:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: kiryandil

BTTT. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 05/02/2011 11:17:27 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: kiryandil
Remember when the left went nuts trying everything they could, however ridiculous, to prove that the Killian documents were what they wanted them to be?

No theory was too crazy because they couldn't accept that reality did not agree with them.

Ahhh, the good old days...

5 posted on 05/02/2011 11:18:08 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: kiryandil

I could see where Kerning would be impossible with an IBM Selectric, the one with the ball, but with the type writers with the hammers that struck each individual letter, it would depend on the speed of the typist.
I would think that the hammers would slam close together if someone could type 120 words a minute, overriding the movement of the carriage. My mom typed 120 WPM on one of those. I’ll have to see if there is anything around that she typed.


6 posted on 05/02/2011 11:21:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: kiryandil

Tickerguy Flips is a misleading title.


7 posted on 05/02/2011 11:21:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: El Sordo

And you thought the Killian Memos were real too, right?


8 posted on 05/02/2011 11:30:52 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It just means that the final version of the story has been accepted, and further investigation into the matter will not be considered by the powers that be.

Yep. I think you and I might have talked about this very thing. You could present videotaped evidence of the birth, with a Dated Honolulu newspaper plainly evident in the delivery room, and palm trees swaying in the breeze out the window.....

And there would be FReepers saying "Yeah, But....."

Sometimes, American People just don't want to know the truth. It'll come out, eventually, when it doesn't matter anymore.

9 posted on 05/02/2011 11:32:15 AM PDT by wbill
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To: aruanan
...Tickerguy Flips is a misleading title...

I like Karl and read his blog daily but he doesn't title his blog posts in a manner that leads to them being posted on other sites.

10 posted on 05/02/2011 11:34:43 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Land of the free my @ss)
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To: netmilsmom
I could see where Kerning would be impossible with an IBM Selectric, the one with the ball, but with the type writers with the hammers that struck each individual letter, it would depend on the speed of the typist. I would think that the hammers would slam close together if someone could type 120 words a minute, overriding the movement of the carriage. My mom typed 120 WPM on one of those. I’ll have to see if there is anything around that she typed.
11 posted on 05/02/2011 11:36:52 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: wbill
I agree with you, but I also think it goes the other way. You could present videotaped evidence of the birth, with a dated Kenyan newspaper plainly evident in the delivery room, and elephants walking past the window.....

Either way, people believe what they want to believe and nothing will shake them. And the official story is that he was born in Hawaii and I no longer see much point in anyone trying to say, "Yeah, but ..."

12 posted on 05/02/2011 11:38:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: kiryandil

That document was a computer generated image. The only “copied” items were the signatures, everything else is generated by OCR software. It is made to look like some kind of photographic image, but it isn’t.

It also is wide open to manipulation and “updating” if the state sees fit.

In 1961, they would have been using a manual typewriter in a hospital that size.


13 posted on 05/02/2011 11:39:07 AM PDT by wrench
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To: kiryandil

bfl


14 posted on 05/02/2011 11:40:34 AM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: netmilsmom
I could see where Kerning would be impossible with an IBM Selectric, the one with the ball, but with the type writers with the hammers that struck each individual letter, it would depend on the speed of the typist. I would think that the hammers would slam close together if someone could type 120 words a minute, overriding the movement of the carriage. My mom typed 120 WPM on one of those. I’ll have to see if there is anything around that she typed.

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Typewriters relied on a mechanical cycle, the carriage movement coicided with the return of the hammer. If the next key is struck too soon, the hammers colide and stick. Happened to me all of the time in typing class. Part of typing fast was getting in sync with the cycle. So, there is no way for the second hammer to arrive before the carriage moved during the return of the first hammer.

15 posted on 05/02/2011 11:41:29 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: kiryandil
As one who spent a lot of my life in graphic arts, I understand your argument. But a word of caution: there were typewriters that could kern. IBM introduced proportional letter spacing in the 40s. From their website:

The first IBM "Executive" Typewriter with proportional spacing, the Model A, was placed on the market shortly after World War II. . .

And I worked on one of their selectric / composer units in about 1972(it was an older unit) or so that produced near typeset quality, including kerning. It worked by your keying in the text, which was recorded on a mag card, and then played back with corrections and letterspacing and kerning applied. At least, that's how I remember it. Whether the Hawaii DOH had one of these units we don't know.

Now, that doesn't mean that the Regime hasn't produced a fraud here, only that the argument that typewriters did not kern is not accurate.

16 posted on 05/02/2011 11:41:46 AM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: Darksheare
No. They were obviously false and the whole thing fell apart immediately with real-world consequences.

But, you will note that those that wanted to believe that they were true tried every stupid thing they could to come up with reasons they could be true. And to this day Mary Mapes insists that they've never been “proven false”.

Birthers are the flip side of this.

They are taking state certified documents with a long legal pedigree and custody trail and trying every stupid thing they can think of to claim that they are false. With many falling back on the argument that these documents have never been “proven true”.

It's inane.

I am looking forward to the next presidency not only for the hope of BHO leaving office, but for Birthers going away and we can get back to mocking the left for these kinds of shenanigans.

17 posted on 05/02/2011 11:43:19 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: kiryandil

I’ve said before, Karl should stick to something he knows, which supposedly is economics.

I lost interest in Karl’s analysis when he mischaracterized the National Review layers experiment by pointing out that some of their letters had color artifacts while the specific letters of the Obama BC that he showed didn’t. But I found that the NR document also had a lot of letters that didn’t, and in fact saw it changed randomly between having the color shadows, and not having the shadows, which just showed it was part of the randomness of the scan processing.

In this latest “report”, Karl claims first that no “typewriter” can kern. But he doesn’t explain why he think the source document had to be reproduced on a standard typewriter, as opposed to say a teletype or printer. By the 60s, computers were coming into vogue, so even if you thought this was a print of an original BC in 1961, some of the form letters could have been printed out from a printer.

If the form was reproduced later, there were several IBM typewriters that had storage capability and did proportional fonts. This was discussed in the Rathergate scandal, when it was shown that the guy who supposedly wrote the documents didn’t have access to such a typewriter, and none of his other documents were typed on one.

At least here Karl makes it clear that there are two online sources for the document, which have the exact same underlying information, one of which has NO LAYERS.

So the conspiracy theorists have to explain why the Administration would take the time to do scan/overlays on their copy, but not change a single thing, so that it still matches the information on the AP non-layered version (or worse, why they would doctor the physical copy they then sent to the AP, but not just scan THAT copy for their own online version).

This is a conspiracy that has no explained point. None of the found “anomalies” can be explained as to how they advance a change in the document that serves a purpose. Changing the “r” in Barack doesn’t change anything; making dozens of changes to letters in the underlying FORM doesn’t change anything.


18 posted on 05/02/2011 11:45:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: El Sordo

“They were obviously false “

So why would a supposedly typed 1961 ‘original’ be perfectly spaced when in 1961 it wasn’t happening?
And why would it also say the politically correct “African” for race when the law stated that “Negro” was what was used?
Remember, the recent ‘release’ has been claimed to be a scanned copy of an original.


19 posted on 05/02/2011 11:47:02 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: CMAC51

That’s why I put it out there. I wasn’t sure. I do remember playing with my mom’s typewriter, but was only about five and no way could I really type.


20 posted on 05/02/2011 11:47:14 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: kiryandil

I’m glad nobody made me prove that the document Maryland had which said I was born was not altered in some way before they let me be a citizen and get a passport and a job that required my birth certificate.

Once we “prove” that there is an original document in HI, won’t we now have to prove that the people who put the information onto that document didn’t lie about what they put there?

Which is the funny part — most of the information on a BC isn’t the result of an FBI investigation; they simply ask the parent for the information, and write it down.

So the source of the information (father’s citizenship, occupations, home address, spelling of names) is just some minor teenager’s recollections to the secretary filling out the form.


21 posted on 05/02/2011 11:51:05 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ClearCase_guy
Oh yeah, you're right. And I like the Elephants Imagery.

Throw in the the whole "Hunh? Who's the President Again?" crowd, who would be hard-pressed to find either Hawaii OR Kenya on a map..... and there's a whole lot of intertia to overcome.

Frankly, I think that people would be better off working towards getting him tossed in 2012, than trying to un-elect him from 2008. But that's just me.

22 posted on 05/02/2011 11:53:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: kiryandil
Hope this helps you understand the capabilities of a typewriter.

An IBM Selectric (any model) CAN NOT do kerning.

An IBM Executive Typewriter (models A , B, C or D) CAN DO kerning.

23 posted on 05/02/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: kiryandil
Hope this helps you understand the capabilities of a typewriter.

An IBM Selectric (any model) CAN NOT do kerning.

An IBM Executive Typewriter (models A , B, C or D) CAN DO kerning.

24 posted on 05/02/2011 11:56:56 AM PDT by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Also, as far as the "forgery" aspect is concerned, I was surprised that they listed his dad's race as "African".

I wasn't around in 1961, but I thought that the term used then would be "Negro". Figured that was before PC-ism had reared it's ugly head.

I suppose that it would be easy enough to check another birth certificate from HI in that time frame with a black father listed on it. If any intrepid reporters had the wit or the inclination to do such a thing, that is.

25 posted on 05/02/2011 11:57:54 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Darksheare
“So why would a supposedly typed 1961 ‘original’ be perfectly spaced when in 1961 it wasn’t happening?”

I am not so sure that this is the case. The typesetting doesn't look substantially different from the Nordyke’s BC’s.

See: http://i.imgur.com/CjRtj.gif.webloc

“And why would it also say the politically correct “African” for race when the law stated that “Negro” was what was used?”

Because that requirement wasn't rigidly adhered to?

“Remember, the recent ‘release’ has been claimed to be a scanned copy of an original.”

As I understand it, the recent release is a scan of a certified document provided by the state of Hawaii. Exactly what Birthers have been demanding for so long.

Aaaannnddd... Then you'll notice they immediately moved the goalposts when this latest bit of info didn't conform to their various invented scenarios.

26 posted on 05/02/2011 11:58:13 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: JoeA
And I worked on one of their selectric / composer units in about 1972(it was an older unit) or so that produced near typeset quality, including kerning. It worked by your keying in the text, which was recorded on a mag card, and then played back with corrections and letterspacing and kerning applied. At least, that's how I remember it. Whether the Hawaii DOH had one of these units we don't know.

Now, that doesn't mean that the Regime hasn't produced a fraud here, only that the argument that typewriters did not kern is not accurate.

These units were large, bulky, slow machines designed for typesetting, not typewriting. They were totally unsuitable for use with a form.

Proportional spacing, available on some typewriters, is not kerning, it merely makes the fixed spacing of letters proportionate to their width.

27 posted on 05/02/2011 12:01:48 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: kiryandil
Here's another "Karl" thing. On an earlier FR thread, he made a big deal out of a mis-alignment of the "date" stamppd on the two versions of the document.

But when I looked at a JPEG of the PDF posted on Wikipedia, the alignment was different than either of his two versions that he had clipped out and shown.

So somehow taking a picture of the pdf changed the alignment.

picture of BC

I think part of the problem is looking at PDFs at 1000% magnification.

28 posted on 05/02/2011 12:01:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: netmilsmom
Selectrics were not introduced until July, 1961. There were other kinds of electric typewriters before that that provided a power assist operation. I do not recall them being speed sensitive. Old manuals for sure were speed sensitive. My mother could tell who in her typing pool typed something on a manual by how the letters were spaced. Me, I could never see any difference.
29 posted on 05/02/2011 12:04:38 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: El Sordo
I'm really trying not to get sucked back into the whole issue, but the goalposts really didn't move.

Intelligent people always stuck to the concept that, given who Obama's father was, the child (no matter where he was born) could not be a Natural Born Citizen. That really was the essential point, although people like Donald Trump seemed to miss it.

If the BC had come out and said that Frank Marshall Davis was the father, then Obama might have (in a way) been in a good position. But, since the BC confirms that his father was who we all expected -- a British subject -- then the NBC issue is as valid today as it was 2 years go. No need to move any goalposts.

But let me just say: I have zero faith that the US Supreme Court will make any ruling on NBC which would endanger Obama's presidency, so I see the entire BC/NBC/Hi/Kenya issue to be rather pointless at this time.

30 posted on 05/02/2011 12:05:10 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: kiryandil

This guy is clearly a racist.


31 posted on 05/02/2011 12:06:05 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: ClearCase_guy; wbill

If there was some real evidence behind any claim other than him being born in Honolulu, yeah, it would change things.
As it is now, there is zero evidence for that.
So those who take the powers-that-be and their official docs at their word have their whole story; those who assume they are all in on a scam to mislead have theirs.


32 posted on 05/02/2011 12:14:05 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: ClearCase_guy
Nothin’ wrong with that.

I'm sympathetic to the 2-parent argument. I personally think that this is how it ought to be, but that the legal support for it isn't there.

For the purposes of the 2-parent argument, no further documentation than the COLB was ever needed.

My issues are with the “AH-HA! A GRAY PIXEL NEXT TO A BLACK PIXEL” crowd, who are so emotionally enmeshed in their fevered dreams that something has just got to be wrong with BHO’s known birth circumstances, that they abandon all rational thought in an effort to justify their desired worldview.

33 posted on 05/02/2011 12:14:42 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: kiryandil
This would be more impressive if he showed differences between the typeset on the same words on the Nordyke, and other early 60's BC's.

If anyone is going to make this case with the kerning, it needs to be slam-dunk, and proven every which way before anyone is going to pay attention.

34 posted on 05/02/2011 12:17:43 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: wrench

I read that Obama (Mr I, I, I ) gave the go ahead for this operation to kill Osama bin Laden last week.

Is this why he released his “Fake” BC last week???

Hoping the information about Osama bin Laden would over shadow his

“Fake” BC!!

PS: Mr I, I, I interrupted Trumps “Celebrity Apprentice” to make his announcement...................

“8 hrs” after this event actually took place!!

Was this a stick it in your eye (to Trump) for Obama to make this

announcement at this particular time???


35 posted on 05/02/2011 12:21:04 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’ve said before, Karl should stick to something he knows, which supposedly is economics.

Denninger is a computer professional.

36 posted on 05/02/2011 12:22:04 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: wbill
Are people's memories REALLY that short?

Please refresh your memory about what the short form COLB said as to the race of 0bama’s father.

Far from being suspicious that it said “African”; it would be suspicious if the “long form” info didn't match the “short form” info.

37 posted on 05/02/2011 12:31:37 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: El Sordo
My issues are with the “AH-HA! A GRAY PIXEL NEXT TO A BLACK PIXEL” crowd, who are so emotionally enmeshed in their fevered dreams that something has just got to be wrong with BHO’s known birth circumstances, that they abandon all rational thought in an effort to justify their desired worldview.

You obviously didn't read & understand the article that Denninger wrote.

Computer science is intrinsically rational.

38 posted on 05/02/2011 12:32:19 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: Plutarch
This would be more impressive if he showed differences between the typeset on the same words on the Nordyke, and other early 60's BC's.

I looked over one of the Nordyke BCs. The resolution wasn't as good, but I think there was an absence of kerning on the letters in Kapiolani that Denninger highlighted.

39 posted on 05/02/2011 12:37:49 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil; El Sordo

As evidence of kerning, this guy points to the first lowercase ‘a’ in “Kapiolani” invading the space of the lowercase ‘p,’ which is immediately to the right of the ‘a.’ Likewise, he points to the lowercase ‘t’ in “University” invading the space of the lowercase ‘y,’ which is immediately to the right of the ‘t.’

And he’s correct. But how does he explain the fact that the same evidence of “kerning” is found all throughout Susan Nordyke’s long form birth certificate?

(See for yourself: http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/this-is-a-hawaii-birth-certificate/)

Ah ha! The Nordyke twins LFBCs must also be computer-generated forgeries! /s


40 posted on 05/02/2011 12:38:53 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*<p><i>)
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To: kiryandil

Karl, you’re great...

I’m sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. “sloppy carriage”) for these results. But at the end of the day, here’s the point: Exactly how many of these “explanations” have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document? Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance.

How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?

Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby. There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year. There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more “pretty” than any other kid’s, or for any sort of special treatment. Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.

What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?


41 posted on 05/02/2011 12:40:26 PM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Actually, you can see that the ‘p’ is offset from the ‘a’ in Kapiolani...


42 posted on 05/02/2011 12:41:48 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil

I worked on an electric IBM Executive that did kerning in the 70s. For instance, an “i” was 1 space while an “M” was 5.

The difference between these typewriters and a manual typewriter was the ribbon. The ribbons on the IBM Executive and the IBM Selectrics (which did not do kerning) was only used once. The impression made by each key was very dark black and consistent. The ribbons on the manuals were fabric ribbons and used until they became too faint.


43 posted on 05/02/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by mommyq
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To: Darksheare; wbill; El Sordo; allmendream

Please see my FR home page for an explanation of “African” as a race.


44 posted on 05/02/2011 12:44:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*<p><i>)
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To: netmilsmom
Actually, after posting the reply, I went and took a close look at the document with photoshop. By using the select tool to define the actual character size it is possible to see what is actual character and what is edge pixalization.

There is actually no kerning present. There are several locations where the lower case "a" looks like it is kerned with the next character, but it is because the "a" is slightly offset to the right, so it looks like it is kerned with the next charachter. This is in fact a characteristic of manual typewriters. Because the hammers to collide at times, it is possible for one to get slightly bent and therefore offset.

For other reaseons, I still believe the document is a forgery, but the kerning argument does not hold up.

45 posted on 05/02/2011 12:48:47 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Well yes, of course there is a perfectly reasonable explanation; and that explanation was from 2008!!!!

I am unsure if the people who bring this “African” stuff up are just throwing mud to see what sticks, or if their memories are really that short, or if they are truly that ignorant of the facts involving their pet cause. All fervor and few facts - and a resistance to allowing the record to be corrected.

“How dare you (correctly) say there wasn't a travel ban on Pakistan in 1981, you O-bot!!!!”

46 posted on 05/02/2011 12:50:39 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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“And I worked on one of their selectric / composer units in about 1972(it was an older unit) or so that produced near typeset quality, including kerning. It worked by your keying in the text, which was recorded on a mag card, and then played back with corrections and letterspacing and kerning applied.”

The downside of using that argument to explain the kerning is that it then invalidates the other explanations about the vertical misalignments of letters being due to sloppy shift-key usage. If the text is recorded on a mag card, formatted, then typed automatically, there would be no misalignments. They can’t have it both ways.


47 posted on 05/02/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: CMAC51

Good observation, thanks!


48 posted on 05/02/2011 12:58:36 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: kiryandil
As long as the Stare of Hawaii and the MSM are willing to stand behind this document, it doesn't matter whether it is demonstrably fake or not.

As the saying goes, "What matters is not what is true or false, but what is believed."

49 posted on 05/02/2011 1:00:11 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Ah ha! The Nordyke twins LFBCs must also be computer-generated forgeries!

They're covering up their Kenyan birth. Inspector Smith is currently auctioning their Kenyan birth certificates on ebay. Polarik has verified the authenticity of the document in a video with Richard Kiley doing the voiceover and John Williams the soundtrack...we've spared no expense...

50 posted on 05/02/2011 1:05:15 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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