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Conspiracies conjure that Osama bin Laden still lives (Cindy Sheehan, deather)
Politico ^ | Ben Smith

Posted on 05/02/2011 12:17:09 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

The decision to drop terror chieftain Osama bin Laden’s corpse into the Arabian Sea was the final meticulous step in a raid whose details were calculated to exert deadly force but also to achieve maximum effect in the propaganda war: the White House was careful to say bin Laden’s body had been treated according to Islamic tradition, but also to deny his followers a shrine.

But while the watery grave may help diminish bin Laden’s status as a martyr to his followers, it was already fueling conspiracy theories; as the administration resisted releasing even photographs of the slain terrorist leader on Monday, a predictable haze of myth and rumor had already, inevitably, begun to rise around him.

The White House said Monday morning that it is running DNA tests on some element of Bin Laden’s remains, and that it’s debating releasing a photograph taken of him after the lethal U.S. raid on his Pakistani compound.

“The United States Government has not yet been made a decision on whether there will be a photo release,” White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said in an email.

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Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan wrote her supporters, “I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid. Just think to yourself—they paraded Saddam’s dead sons around to prove they were dead—why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent—just put your flags away and THINK!”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911truther; barkingmoonbat; cindysheehan; codepink; conspiracytheory; deather; deathers; mediablackout; obama; osama; truthers
Finally, what we've all been waiting for - something else from Cindy Sheehan. Yipee!
1 posted on 05/02/2011 12:17:16 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Cindy, you’re 15 minutes of fame expired years ago. No one cares about the weak little rants that come from your mouth.


3 posted on 05/02/2011 12:21:21 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (THERE IS NO EXCUSE ANY LONGER.)
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To: OldDeckHand

someone needs to encourage her to keep talking about this. Watch out for the bus wheels Cindy.


4 posted on 05/02/2011 12:21:21 PM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: OldDeckHand
No body? = Never happened. We're being played.

Oceania has always been at war war with East Asia.

5 posted on 05/02/2011 12:21:28 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Outstanding.

The mob/CIA/KGB/LBJ killed JFK

We never landed on the moon

9/11 was an inside job

Obama was born in Kenya

Elvis is still alive

Osama is still alive


6 posted on 05/02/2011 12:22:41 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: OldDeckHand
Sounds remarkably like some of our conspira-freepers.
7 posted on 05/02/2011 12:23:56 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: OldDeckHand
Finally, what we've all been waiting for - something else from Cindy Sheehan. Yipee!

Cindy Sheehan is one of the most vile, disgusting human beings around - and she is increasingly desperate to stay relevant now that it is a Democrat administration still fighting wars and killing terrorists. She has some niche support on the far left, but as the liberals are interested in keeping Obama in power the large majority of them threw her overboard. She is reduced to flailing about in an effort to get attention, wails on and on about "the Empire", and makes trips to associate herself with America's enemies - basically she is making as big an ass of herself as possible and now almost everyone has grown tired of her.

8 posted on 05/02/2011 12:25:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: clamper1797

Never really understood how the death of a sitting president could be a cause for celebration.


10 posted on 05/02/2011 12:29:26 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: OldDeckHand

that was fast


11 posted on 05/02/2011 12:31:21 PM PDT by Jaded (Whatever.... really.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Sounds remarkably like some of our conspira-freepers.

Why yes, yes it does.

We need a death certificate darn it! And it better not have LAYERS!

12 posted on 05/02/2011 12:37:01 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: trumandogz
The mob/CIA/KGB/LBJ killed JFK

Didn't anyone ever tell you that it was the Space
Alien/Bigfoot conspiracy that got JFK? You've been deeply misled.
13 posted on 05/02/2011 12:38:16 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Cindy Sheepdip sighting.

Will the media mock her as they have been mocking Donald Trump over his conspiracy theories?


14 posted on 05/02/2011 12:38:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: OldDeckHand

Cindy who?


15 posted on 05/02/2011 12:39:36 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: OldDeckHand

“it was already fueling conspiracy theories; as the administration resisted releasing even photographs of the slain terrorist leader on Monday, a predictable haze of myth and rumor had already, inevitably, begun to rise around him.”

Most open administration in the history of the U.S. ...


16 posted on 05/02/2011 12:40:51 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff! "Anybody but Obama in 2012!")
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To: trumandogz

Still, it’d be nice if we could see a pic of the dead body, and not some obvious photoshopped fake.

Oh, by the way, the alleged BC that Obama put out last week IS a fake: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185343 That doesn’t mean that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii - it just means that this guy has exactly ZERO credibility, and he just dug his hole a bunch deeper. After all, first the operation was a week ago, now it was yesterday and the body was already disposed off - without any pics released. It COULD be true, but why should anyone believe THIS President?


17 posted on 05/02/2011 12:41:12 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: righttackle44
Osama Bin Laden was really a 6'4" bigfoot and I have photo proof!


18 posted on 05/02/2011 12:41:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: a fool in paradise

She still hasn’t figured out that she was just a useful idiot...and she’s lost the “useful” part.


19 posted on 05/02/2011 12:41:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: moder_ator

Thanks to whichever of you deleted that idiot’s post.

Conspiracists seem determined to turn this place into WND.


20 posted on 05/02/2011 12:43:16 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Ancesthntr

Or perhaps he died at Tora Bora and there’s no further need for the coverup.

There is no body to produce as evidence. Release some photos.

And Tourist Guy had better not be in them.


21 posted on 05/02/2011 12:43:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: trumandogz

You forgot Roswell, black helicopters, Vince Foster, Jim Morrison alive in Oregon!


22 posted on 05/02/2011 12:43:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Bin Laden's bones are likely still under a ton of rocks at Tora Bora.

It seemed odd to me that with all the recent stuff in Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. that Bin Laden wasn't producing all sorts of audio/video messages to his followers in those places.

23 posted on 05/02/2011 12:44:18 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Slings and Arrows
She still hasn’t figured out that she was just a useful idiot...and she’s lost the “useful” part.

I beg to differ. While she was a useful idiot exploited by the Left and the media to dig at President Bush and the war effort, the media was fully in her corner for years.

Make those same journalistas now explain Cindy's latest ramblings.

Has she gotten to meet with President Obama yet?

If we are going to have to endure perjorative uses of tea bagger, birther, etc. she needs to be trotted out by the same media bandwagon that once supported her and roundly publicly DENOUNCED.

She's still an idiot, but she can be used to expose the DNC Media for what they are.

24 posted on 05/02/2011 12:46:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: Ancesthntr
Oh, by the way, the alleged BC that Obama put out last week IS a fake:

Yes, because we are going to believe some random dude named Tickerguy...

Do you also believe the moon landing was a hoax? I can link to any number of random websites and videos claiming it is.

25 posted on 05/02/2011 12:54:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Revolting cat!

How could I forget Morrison when just last week I saw Jim and the rest of the Doors play a show at a small club in Portland.

And the most amazing thing about that show was the band that opened for the Doors. The called themselves the Bugs, no actually now that I think about it, it was the Beatles.

A four piece band from the UK and some dude, drunk off his a$$ told me that there is a rumor that three of the members, John, George and Paul were already dead.


26 posted on 05/02/2011 12:57:33 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: a fool in paradise

LOL. Really loud.


27 posted on 05/02/2011 1:00:45 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: OldDeckHand

As always, Cindy Sheehan has absolutely no idea what is going on


28 posted on 05/02/2011 1:01:08 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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29 posted on 05/02/2011 1:06:24 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Almost as evil as the Freeper Criminal Mastermind)
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To: Ancesthntr

Exactly. 12 dollar documents and pictures of dead terrorists are easy to produce.


30 posted on 05/02/2011 1:14:24 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Facts:

1)Obama has Muslim Brotherhood advisors on the White Hut staff:

ex-CIA Agent Reveals: “Muslim Brotherhood” has infiltrated Obama Administration
http://notalemming.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/

2)Obama is falling in the polls, 42% approval rating and going South. Gas prices and inflation are soaring

3) Obama is being attacked on proving his place of birth, so successfully he has had to respond with his own propaganda initiative, and needs a distraction.

4) Obama is a grift artist, and lives by the campaign in which false images are presented to boost his popularity, this from the outset of his presidential campaign , which has not ceased with his inauguration.

5) Obama, by his conduct on Libya, the betrayal of allies of the USA on he WOT, Mubarack and Kadaffi, shows that he supports the Muslim Brotherhood and the spread of the World Wide Caliphate movement into North Africa and sub Saharan Africa.

Conclusion: I do not believe a thing that Obama does and says. If Osama Bin Laden is dead, I give credit to George W Bush who launched the Bin Laden hunt program years ago.But given the above stated facts, there is more than an even chance that his whole situation was staged to falsely END the hunt for Bin Laden, who may be even now lapsing into a comfortable anonymous retirement in a secret location.Taquiya,a major component of the Muslin Brotherhood that now is daily advising a traitorous president.Given Obamas thuggishness, his history of concealing all of his personal record, I objectively conclude that Bin Laden is alive and well and kicking back somewhere very safe.All the details of Osama Bin Ladens proof of death could easily have been staged. The body is so disfigured, that no visual ID can be made, and he was allegedly buried at sea. Sorry....no cigar.The body should have been brought to the USA and a very careful verification completed.It was not. Obama lies.

There is no true forensic independent verfication which should have been given as proof to NATO Allies.Indeed the body should have been handed over to NATO for verification of identity.Why was it not? I conclude Bin Laden was not killed, and whoever it was is now a martyr, after having had extensive plastic surgery. Why the rush to dspose of the body? Muslim observances? Buahahahahahahahaha!Come ON!


31 posted on 05/02/2011 1:18:18 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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"There is no true forensic independent verfication which should have been given as proof to NATO Allies.Indeed the body should have been handed over to NATO for verification of identity.Why was it not? "

People who want to believe a conspiracy, will twist themselves in knots in order to believe it.

You argue that "the body should have been turned over to 'NATO'", but you don't give any reason for that to happen. Why would the US military, executing a US military operation turn over ANYTHING to NATO, much less Osama bin Laden's body. Should we also turn all of our Guantanamo prisoners over to NATO, too?

"The body is so disfigured, that no visual ID can be made"

Not true. In fact, facial recognition software was one of the methods used to establish a positive ID.

"The body should have been brought to the USA and a very careful verification completed"

What scientific method is "more careful" than DNA analysis. I'm all ears. You don't need a body to do a DNA test, you can quite literally swab the inside of the mouth to complete the test.

"I conclude Bin Laden was not killed, and whoever it was is now a martyr, after having had extensive plastic surgery."

Deus ex machina. Every good conspiracy theory needs one, but yours seems to have several - secret plastic surgery, scores of US uniformed service members "in on" the conspiracy, and a vast Muslim network in the highest echelons of government. Let me know how the book tour comes out.

I guess Obama should just have dropped a few JDAMs on the compound, and been done with it right? That would have been much more convincing, wouldn't it?

32 posted on 05/02/2011 1:36:47 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

If Sheehan is criticizing Obama I guess that makes her a racist. Let’s ask Whoopi.


33 posted on 05/02/2011 1:40:11 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: OldDeckHand

What’s interesting is that it never seems to occur to cindy that if bin Laden is still alive, he could pop up any time and the folks at the White house know that.

She’s just sorry she’ll never get to shag him now.


34 posted on 05/02/2011 1:41:36 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Ancesthntr

I don’t undestand what that link you provided says. Was there kerning in the Obama birth certificate? Is there text that would be inconsistent with a 1961 typewriter, and if so, where is it?


35 posted on 05/02/2011 1:51:27 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: OldDeckHand

Sources indicate they shoved a 1/2 Lb. of Jimmy Dean Pork Suasage down his gullet. Now he sleeps with the fishes.


36 posted on 05/02/2011 2:19:42 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“Sounds remarkably like some of our conspira-freepers.”

Obama really has brought us all together.


37 posted on 05/02/2011 2:30:17 PM PDT by redk
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To: Longbow1969; AuH2ORepublican

@AUH2OREPUBLICAN: read the article again - Denninger shows that the White House version of the BC does have kerning in it, while the supposedly identical version posted by the AP does not. Something is fishy. See more articles below (some of which have 6-7 minute videos embedded inside) for more details.

@Longbow:

Here are all of the posts by Tickerguy (Karl Denninger) on the BC issue, in chronological order (with today’s article that I linked to earlier being the last):

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2527481

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2528352

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2530047

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2532588

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2534123

FYI, I believe that we (meaning US astronauts) landed on the Moon, at the times and places that were reported from 1969-1972. I also believe that Moslem terrorists inspired and led by Osama bin Laden took down the 2 WTC towers. I don’t believe that space aliens kidnapped Elvis (because the fat, druggee bastard is dead) or President Kennedy (almost certainly shot dead by Oswald, there’s no convincing evidence otherwise), that the US Government is hiding live or dead space aliens in Area 51 or Hangar 18, that space aliens built the pyramids, or any such nonsense.

However, this particular President has NO credibility with me - he is a habitual liar, and the above-referenced articles (and videos contained therein) show pretty irrefutable evidence that the electronic document purporting to be Obama’s birth certificate that was provided by the White House was manufactured. Note that this alone does NOT prove that the information is false or different than the truth facts regarding his birth, but they beg the question of WHY DID THE WHITE HOUSE PASS OUT SUCH A CLEARLY FLAWED DOCUMENT?

That’s just the latest in a long string of lies or “look like lies” from the “most transparent administration in history,” so I just don’t trust the complete accuracy of what they’re saying about OBL. SHOW ME THE BODY (or at least pictures of it that can be analyzed vs. known valid pictures of OBL).

If there’s nothing to hide, why hide it? That goes for the BC and the OBL issues.


38 posted on 05/02/2011 2:47:28 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Ancesthntr

“...truth facts....”

Uh, “...true facts....”


39 posted on 05/02/2011 2:53:10 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: OldDeckHand

She’s calling us stupid? That’s the pot calling the kettle black.


40 posted on 05/02/2011 3:13:52 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Fear can hold you prisoner.Hope can set you free.(Shawshank Redemption))
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To: OldDeckHand

Elvis is jealous.


41 posted on 05/02/2011 3:39:40 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: RC one

Bin Laden is with Elvis


42 posted on 05/02/2011 3:42:05 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: OldDeckHand

She’s still alive?


43 posted on 05/02/2011 3:57:17 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: OldDeckHand

Ever hear of plastic surgery? This is a Paki organized scam with Obama helping from this end.Our military assumed it a clean kill after being fed the scam intel. It was not.

And now the body is gone, no further verification by our NATO allies who have also spemt millions hunting for OBL?

Get analytical and stop thinking with your one eyed snake.


44 posted on 05/02/2011 4:13:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Ancesthntr
However, this particular President has NO credibility with me - he is a habitual liar

He is a liar. Obama is cold, calculating political shark. Look what he did to Ryan and the Republicans. Promising them he was going to release a real deficit reduction plan when all he was really doing was baiting them to release something serious so he could use it as cudgel against them. And that is just ONE of many examples.

Still, the birther stuff... Just let it go man. It really is out there. The fact that Obama is a political con man does not mean he is releasing fake BC documents. Some conspiracies just strain credulity - and the birther stuff is one of them. There is a good reason most prominent conservatives like Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, etc, stay as far away from it as possible. It's silliness and it makes any person or movement pushing it sound nuts.

Donald Trump has billions of dollars and I am sure he, many other individuals and countless news outlets will hire real experts that do not have an axe to grind to determine if there is actually anything wrong with the long form BC. My guess is you will hear nothing.

Just think about it. The Rather forgeries were picked apart by folks on the interwebz, but then their findings were CONFIRMED by serious investigators who get paid real money to do this stuff. Trusting some dude named Tickerguy from the internet is lunacy.

Just because we don't trust Hussein does not mean we believe any old conspiracy theory that comes down the pike. If we did it would make us no different from the leftists.

Now I know a lot of people, perhaps yourself, had a lot invested in the birther stuff. Maybe you were just so certain he was ineligible and that there was no way he could release a long form. Unfortunately, that particular conspiracy was blown to pieces. For now at least, it's just over. It may be hard, but you've gotta let this one go.

45 posted on 05/02/2011 5:38:15 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: OldDeckHand

My only concern about all this is that we may have turned Bin Laden into the Elvis of the Muslim world. After all, who in the world are more prone to wild conspiracy theories?

Of course, there would probably be rumors that he’s still alive even if his body was mounted on a spike on the White House lawn.


46 posted on 05/02/2011 7:31:16 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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