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Report: Harsh Interrogation Techniques Helped Nail Bin Laden
Townhall.com ^ | May 2, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 05/02/2011 3:57:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

The, ahem, "man-caused death" of the world's most infamous terrorist is marvelous news for our country.  It is a testament to the skill and dedication of our men and women in uniform, and to the tireless work of our intelligence agencies.  It completes the hard and sometimes frustrating efforts of two successive presidential administrations.  That justice has been visited upon bin Laden is an unmitigated, non-partisan good.  But as the media pieces together the puzzle of how yesterday's surgical mission came to be, a politically controversial fact has arisen -- the investigation into locating and neutralizing bin Laden gained early momentum after we obtained crucial intelligence by subjecting several high-level detainees to rather unpleasant interrogations:



Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi.  Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.
Some on the political Left have -- in certain cases shamefully and opportunistically -- exploited and lied about the issue of enhanced interrogation techniques for fleeting political gain.  The mainstream media has at times publicized some of our most sensitive secrets on this front.  The current administration, which deserves some credit for the timing and effectiveness of the bin Laden raid, chose to air what it considered to be America's dirty laundry in a wrong-headed act of misplaced international penance.


The Bush administration established secret CIA prisons in Europe and elsewhere to detain and question high value terrorists.  9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was one of three men the CIA waterboarded to glean information.  We now know that some of that intel led to Osama bin Laden's death (in addition to other documented useful information KSM coughed up under duress).

Former Vice President Cheney has been a forceful defender of the previous administration's counter-terrorism policies.  His arguments have proven quite persuasive, even in these politically correct times.  This new detail will surely buttress the case that far from being inhumane or unconscionable, the Bush administration's decision to treat terrorists as terrorists not only helped save lives, but directly contributed to an event that had Americans literally dancing in the streets last night.  President Obama will receive kudos for ordering this strike -- and rightfully so.  He eschewed an easier, less risky plan that may have left some doubt as to bin Laden's status.  Today, there is no doubt.  But Obama's much-maligned presidential predecessor also deserves the gratitude of all Americans today.  After 9/11, his team worked 'round the clock to successfully prevent another attack on our soil, and implemented some hard-nosed policies that bore fruit years later in the early morning hours of May 2nd in Abbottabad, Pakistan.


The national debate over enhanced interrogation techniques won't vanish with this revelation.  People of good faith on both sides can disagree on the efficacy and morality of harsh tactics.  I do hope, however, that we can dispense with one nonsensical anti-EIT talking point: That they don't work.  They do.  Just ask Osama bin Laden.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; deathers; ksm; rendition; waterboarding

1 posted on 05/02/2011 3:57:21 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Thank President George Walker Bush for his interrogation techniques at club Gitmo.


2 posted on 05/02/2011 3:58:47 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Kaslin
Harsh is such a meaningless word...

Productive is a much better word.

3 posted on 05/02/2011 4:00:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Report: Harsh Interrogation Techniques Helped Nail Bin Laden

Such as snarky remarks, innuendo and weapons-grade sarcasm.

4 posted on 05/02/2011 4:01:41 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The point is it helped nail him


5 posted on 05/02/2011 4:01:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

BTW has Holder dropped the charges against the CIA guys that Wat....I mean harshly interrogated the pigs


6 posted on 05/02/2011 4:01:57 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Kaslin
"Some on the political Left have -- in certain cases shamefully and opportunistically -- exploited and lied about the issue of enhanced interrogation techniques for fleeting political gain."

Ummm... it got obama elected. How fleeting was that? The only thing the left didn't do, was murder the then president, though they fantasized loudly.

7 posted on 05/02/2011 4:06:53 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Kaslin
Absolutely!!! Bush and Ashcroft worked their butts off to try to figure out how to deal with these monsters and up circa 1950 intelligence gathering and knock down the wall created by Gorelick.

The Dems went after Bush on intelligence at every turn...and here we are...the day of reckoning...and the Dems are bowing to Obama for the capture.

I'm so disgusted...Of course I'm glad he's dead...more for the folks who have lost loved ones via these islamic b******* and their allah.

8 posted on 05/02/2011 4:10:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Very well said


9 posted on 05/02/2011 4:12:13 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

I hope they waterboarded him while lighting up his dinkus with about 50,000 volts.


10 posted on 05/02/2011 4:12:31 PM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: omega4179

Indeed


11 posted on 05/02/2011 4:13:49 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Karliner
I hope they waterboarded him while lighting up his dinkus with about 50,000 volts.

Just so long as they don't exceed .1 amperes. Dead folks can't tell you a thing....

the infowarrior

12 posted on 05/02/2011 4:19:55 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
as the media pieces together the puzzle of how yesterday's surgical mission came to be, a politically controversial fact has arisen -- the investigation into locating and neutralizing bin Laden gained early momentum after we obtained crucial intelligence by subjecting several high-level detainees to rather unpleasant interrogations
In other words, from a perspective of nearly nine years, the interrogations weren't quite unpleasant enough.


13 posted on 05/02/2011 4:21:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Kaslin

Officials: CIA interrogators at secret prisons developed first strands that led to bin Laden

http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110502/pl_dailycaller/didenhancedinterrogationleadustoosamabinladen_1


14 posted on 05/02/2011 4:30:02 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Palin: More woman than Michelle. More man than Barack.)
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To: Kaslin; Revolting cat!

Bush’s “fault”!


15 posted on 05/02/2011 4:35:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: Kaslin

Officials: CIA interrogators at secret prisons developed first strands that led to bin Laden

http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110502/pl_dailycaller/didenhancedinterrogationleadustoosamabinladen_1


16 posted on 05/02/2011 4:42:54 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Palin: More woman than Michelle. More man than Barack.)
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To: Kaslin
"The, ahem, "man-caused death" of the world's most infamous terrorist....."

Big Sis talk, LOL.

17 posted on 05/02/2011 5:03:31 PM PDT by cookcounty (Eric Holder, Head of the Department of JUST-US.)
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To: Kaslin

Finally a thread on the REAL heroes. Just like the battle of Midway, Naval intelligence were the real heroes. Without the element of surprise our fleet, heavily outgunned and outnumbered, could never have pulled off what they did at Midway.

Same here, the seals did their job with typical expertise, but they couldn’t have pulled it off without superior intelligence.


18 posted on 05/02/2011 5:04:12 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Kaslin
Peter King just confirmed that it was water-boarding of KSM that lead to the info.
19 posted on 05/02/2011 5:23:20 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Kaslin

Nothing wrong with forceful interrogations if it is done by professionals for war time purposes and it doesn’t approach actual torture,which is something entirely different then water-boarding.When you have people willing to inflict torture on US citizens and servicemen for the sake of punishing them......then it turns into so much nonsense.

Whatever got rid of this man,it is good to tie that particular knot.


20 posted on 05/02/2011 5:45:43 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: sasportas
Without the element of surprise our fleet, heavily outgunned and outnumbered, could never have pulled off what they did at Midway.

I would add that there was a good measure of Divine Providence.

21 posted on 05/02/2011 6:24:51 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Kaslin

yes I was wondering about this as soon as I read that the name of Osama’s “trusted courier” was obtained in interrogations....... so all the vile libs who are preening about the Obama admin. today would have preferred that we never have the name that led us to this raid..... and if they’d had their way Osama would still be alive and hiding in plain sight in Pakistan.


22 posted on 05/02/2011 8:01:29 PM PDT by Enchante (May 1, 2011: Death to Bin Laden, Death to Bin Laden..... al Zawahiri is next!)
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To: infowarrior

Yes i was considering about 0.25 amps , and you’re right it’s not the voltage, it’s the amps that do you in, thanks I posted and figured a smarty was going to nail me for that one.


23 posted on 05/02/2011 10:28:10 PM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: Sacajaweau
“The Dems went after Bush on intelligence at every turn...and here we are...the day of reckoning...and the Dems are bowing to Obama for the capture”

I absolutely agree. I had a heated discussion last night with a long-time, very close friend who, unfortunately, is an Obama worshipper. He hated, and still hates Bush, and hates Palin more.

He rarely misses an opportunity to talk about how Bush is stupid, and Palin is both lazy and stupid, but totally buys into the media creation of Obama as genius. He also has talked about how the military attracts people who ‘like to go around shooting guns’, basically putting them into a not too complimentary light. Last night he told me that Obama deserves the credit and that Obama was ‘at the apex’ of this operation that got bin Laden. When I told him that the people who ‘got’ bin Laden were the same ‘military types’ that he denigrated as people who just like to shoot guns, he started raising his voice and talking over me. There is clearly an element of hatred of the right that permeates the left, and it can be very ugly.

If Obama had invented waterboarding, there would be plenty on the left who would hail the technique as a ‘humane’ form of effective interrogation. To them, one of the biggest determinants of right and wrong is whether an action or thought is attributable to a Democrat or a Republican.

24 posted on 05/03/2011 12:53:35 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Kaslin
I'm amazed this and the Wikileaks dump of April 25 are not arousing more interest....even here at Free Republic.

On the one hand it shows that waterboarding probably worked, since that info on Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan came from 2 sources: Abu Faraj al-Libi and KSM, 2 of the three people known to have been waterboarded, both at "black sites" before being transferred to Gitmo.

Also it strongly suggests that last week's wikileaks data dump may have triggered an earlier decision by the White House to go ahead with the raid, since the info that the US knew the name of the courier (whom bin Laden was apparently living with) was there for anyone with the patience to read through the dump (of course bin Laden himself was without direct internet access).

Also interesting that they knew al-Libi had been hiding out in Abbottabad for the 2 years before his capture.

25 posted on 05/03/2011 8:34:17 AM PDT by cookcounty ("Hey Waiter! 72 STURGEONS? I'm supposed to get 72 VIRGINS!" -- "Bubbles" bin Laden)
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