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Arguing with the Brainwashed
Conclub ^ | 05-03-11 | Cultural Limits

Posted on 05/03/2011 8:50:02 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen

Don’t. Just don’t. It’s not worth the heartburn.

It was a great temptation, though, Sunday night when the most satisfying news of the current round of Islam vs. Everybody Else started breaking. Osama bin Laden wasn’t just captured, he was dead and the U.S. had the body. Okay, kudos to the person who gave the order to go in: the current resident of the White House. The vast majority of thinking and fair Americans out there have no problem with that.

It’s the rest of what the brainwashed have to say that’s a problem.

Like everyone else who grows up in the U.S. of A., Cultural Limits (that’s me) has a circle of family, friends and acquaintances that runs the entire spectrum from hard-core leftist vegan nutcases to suspicious, gun under the pillow, bury the cash in the back yard nutcases. It’s really rather interesting that the ones more toward the bury the cash in the back yard side are more patient when it comes to actually gathering facts to be sure they are correct than the holier than thou lefties are. That surfaced with a vengance Sunday evening.

Nothing has demonstrated the power of brainwashing more than the blind loyalty to the current resident of the White House I see in these people. I mean nothing. “This happened on his watch, so he gets the credit. ALL the credit. Not like that “stupid” Bush, who couldn’t find him. Take THAT, you conservatives.” One normally fairly mild mommy complained that so much credit was going to soldiers (I didn’t want to break it to her that S.E.A.L.S. are in the Navy, but, to be fair, she didn’t grow up in a defense household like I did.) and not nearly enough to Obama. She didn’t say a word about the CIA.

Trying not to laugh and cry at the same time – or respond to the nitwits who apparently have no clue how covert ops work or that Obama didn’t even appoint his own defense secretary – is not an easy task. I mean seriously, are people determined to worship the man going to listen when you explain that: the intelligence alone took almost four years to gather (there was a CONSTITUTIONALLY mandated election during that time in which W was no longer eligible for the office); no defense policy has been put in place by the current regime in Washington and they are still using “stupid” Bush’s (it’s always a temptation to ask how many of them are fighter pilots or have an MBA from Harvard, but that just gets you nowhere); Pakistan, an “ally,” didn’t quite tell us the whole truth; the dreaded prison camp interrogations produced the first pieces of info that led to the raid; or that Obama didn’t face the bullets or do the shooting.

Yeah, don’t bother. None of that seems to matter to them. Listening, reason and sensible deduction has been removed from their political thought, if you can call it that. Regurgitation is closer. Here’s to hoping it doesn’t doom us next November.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; conservatives; debate; obltermination; progressives

1 posted on 05/03/2011 8:50:06 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen
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To: TheConservativeCitizen; unkus

Hey, they copied me!


2 posted on 05/03/2011 8:52:11 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
One normally fairly mild mommy complained that so much credit was going to soldiers and not nearly enough to Obama. She didn’t say a word about the CIA.

So THAT'S why he's never at the White Hut -- he's out doing field work to track down America's hidden enemies! My hat's off to ya, Bam!

3 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:19 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

I think what is so frustrating is that the left fails to engage in critical thinking.
I thought they were all about ‘speaking truth to power’, but they never self reflect.
I worry about their tendency to worship cult leaders and their lemming-like reactions. No matter what leftist site you’d visit, they have the same talking points.
My mother knew of a time and place where such occurred and no good came from it.


4 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:24 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is destiny)
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To: Cultural Limits

"Like everyone else who grows up in the U.S. of A., Cultural Limits (that’s me) has a circle of family, friends and acquaintances that runs the entire spectrum from hard-core leftist vegan nutcases.."

What's with you sicko lib symps? No, everyone doesn't include the enemy in their circle of friends. Speak for yourself, moron, and then GTH!


5 posted on 05/03/2011 9:00:20 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

this puppet waited 16 hours before being told by soros or daley to go ahead with the attack!

he or who ever is really in charge and put navy seals in a dangerous hold situation for 16 hours !


6 posted on 05/03/2011 9:00:26 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Hey, they copied me!


They sure did!


7 posted on 05/03/2011 9:05:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Obama gave the order (or so it is reported) to execute a wondrously planned assault, undergirded by intelligence gathering and operational capabilities that are in place only because of policies and programs initiated and/or endorsed and supported by his predecessor, whose name Obama deigned not to mention in his announcement of the successful outcome of the mission.
Let not the rest of us forget President George W. Bush.


8 posted on 05/03/2011 9:15:33 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: unkus

I suppose living here in the People’s Republic of Massholechusettstan has given me (forced me) to identify and understand the enemy.


9 posted on 05/03/2011 9:19:31 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Heyyyyy!!! 0zer0 was out on the golf course looking for osama! Just like OJ was out there looking for Nicole’s killers!


10 posted on 05/03/2011 9:20:33 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I forgot to include “the ability to”


11 posted on 05/03/2011 9:23:38 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

At this point it has been 2 days since OBL’s so called death.

Obama sat on this for 16 hours Not out of indecisiveness but because OBL is still alive and in custody at Gitmo.

obama was trying to come up with the best lie and try to milk the polls for some good numbers.

Thats why the WH keeps flouting the hard drives and documents obtained in the compound.

Evidently not every body was on the same sheet of music because the crap coming out of the white house keeps changing from hour to hour.

OBL was not armed and gave up with out a fight.

OBL is being interrogated as we speak in Gitmo.

After he has spilled his guts then the cia will spill his guts and we will never know.

Flame on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May 3, 2011


13 posted on 05/03/2011 9:44:31 PM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
My lib pals keep emailing this to me:

Don't you just want to kick that guy in the nurtz? He's got a Dilbert tie.

14 posted on 05/03/2011 9:48:07 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Bush did it!


15 posted on 05/03/2011 9:54:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Someone with photoshop skills needs to remake this with Obama on the golf course, since that was actually what he was doing on the day of the mission.


16 posted on 05/03/2011 10:03:53 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: GOPsterinMA

You have an advantage. At least our side will be better prepared WTSHTF.


17 posted on 05/03/2011 10:03:59 PM PDT by unkus
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To: kennyboy509

Only flame I have is he’s probably not in Gitmo. I’m guessing Osama is alive, in custody, but somewhere in Western Asia. If Osama is alive a lot of the issues are explained like no video proof (they had helmet cam’s-where’s ther kill shot?); no independant verification of the body; no quick turn around on the photographs (still being created); no prisoners (his wife would be an intel assett as would some of the other ‘wounded’); vague stories that are inconsistent. I hope I’m right. Milk the turd and then cap his ass.


18 posted on 05/03/2011 10:04:21 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: lp boonie

Milk the turd and then cap his ass.


You nailed it, FRiend.


19 posted on 05/03/2011 10:07:38 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ilgipper

We’ve all seen that photo of him and his staff wherever they were watching the hit on OBL go down. Notice how small he looks, his head is below anybody else in that shot, and he just looks PO’d. Sitting down there in the corner, such a small petty man, in his golf shirt.

Titty baby. That’s our President.


20 posted on 05/03/2011 10:08:47 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Everybody Else started breaking. Osama bin Laden wasn’t just captured, he was dead and the U.S. had the body.

Lesson one.

A snake is a snake. A liar LIES!

BL is alive and ,... well, not too well, he's under the impression he's drowning.

Gitmo water boards, it's gonna be a busy week!


Why would we announce to the world we have the head of the snake in custody? So they can run and hide?

Even the liar in chief can be useful to nat security unintentional.

21 posted on 05/03/2011 10:08:51 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: I see my hands
What's with you sicko lib symps? No, everyone doesn't include the enemy in their circle of friends. Speak for yourself, moron, and then GTH!

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing, though perhaps not quite so vehemently. I have, and WOULD have, no friends so far left you can't hold a rational discussion with them, and the raving righties he describes are I think so rare few people have a choice of whether to befriend them or not.

22 posted on 05/03/2011 10:11:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Bockscar

They choose to worship at the feet of their liberal gods. It requires no thinking to do that.


Disgusting sheeple and Useful Idiots.
There is no use trying to even reason with them. I work with a “progressive” and he’s simply a robot for his Idol named 0bama. They’re as bad or worse than any damned Nazi holed up with Hitler in his bunker.


23 posted on 05/03/2011 10:12:33 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Still Thinking

Barack Hussein Obama, international metrosexual man of mystery.


24 posted on 05/03/2011 10:15:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (“If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?” -Albert Einstein)
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To: West Texas Chuck

I commented yesterday, that he looked like a weasel in that picture & totally out of place! He needs to go back to Crook County & Chicago, he fits in better in that dirty, crime ridden city!


25 posted on 05/03/2011 10:16:27 PM PDT by blondee123 (Obama-Socialist in Chief!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Kin I get me a Starbucks here?”


26 posted on 05/03/2011 10:17:02 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: West Texas Chuck

The military told him to STFU and I’ve heard Gen. Patreus made him sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to protect the SEALs.


27 posted on 05/03/2011 10:17:43 PM PDT by unkus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barack Hussein Obama, international metrosexual man of mystery.

America's answer to Mr. Bean.

28 posted on 05/03/2011 10:22:06 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: griswold3; All

I’ve found that folks on the far left can be broken down in to three general categories:

The Uninformed-
Folks who don’t pay much attention, and only get in passing mainsteam media headlines, and don’t get much deeper in to it. The “Oprah hates Bush, so I guess I should, too!” crowd.

The Hopelessly Uninformed and Willfully Ignorant-
Rachel Maddow worshippers who refuse to listen to any inconvenient fact that runs counter to what the Left Media has told them to believe.

And, The Easily-Manipulated Whacko Orwellian Hypocrite, Mentally Ill, Dangers to Society—
The Carlos Hartmann’s, Jason Lee’s, and Pat Bedell’s of the world, who get so wrapped up in the rhetoric of hate that they take it upon themselves to kill, try to kill, or take hostages, to try and make whatever insane point they had put in their diseased heads, by the hate-pimps on the Left.

Unfortunately for us all, there are a hell of a lot more of the latter than we like to think.


29 posted on 05/03/2011 10:22:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: griswold3

Did you ever notice the things liberals say are so important; like critical thinking, being fair to both sides, and on and on only seem to apply when they agree on the topic? If it is their candidate or their issue, we must think critically, be fair, compromise. If it is not their candidate or issue then they are so closed minded it is not even funny. We are just wrong and they don’t want to hear any more about it.


30 posted on 05/03/2011 10:29:05 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: unkus

True, but I don’t know how good it is to be deep behind enemy lines.


31 posted on 05/03/2011 10:29:48 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

True, but I don’t know how good it is to be deep behind enemy lines.


Blend in as much as possible and don’t “adverise” yourself.

Become like the underground cells bacame in Nazi occupied Europe.


32 posted on 05/03/2011 10:33:46 PM PDT by unkus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Also known as The Manchurian Candidate.


34 posted on 05/03/2011 10:34:51 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

That’s good advice! Damn good!!! Thanks, FRiend.


35 posted on 05/03/2011 10:45:08 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Tammy8

Did you ever notice the things liberals say are so important; like critical thinking, being fair to both sides, and on and on only seem to apply when they agree on the topic? If it is their candidate or their issue, we must think critically, be fair, compromise. If it is not their candidate or issue then they are so closed minded it is not even funny. We are just wrong and they don’t want to hear any more about it.


They are trying to ward off logical arguments before those arguments are even made. Liberals can never let people know where they really stand or what their real agenda is because they would be rejected.

They base most things on emotion rather than logic. Thats why they always use “gray areas” in many of their “arguments”. They can’t differentiate between good and bad, black and white, but when they do, it’s soley to “rationalize”, in their confused minds, their irrational thinking.


36 posted on 05/03/2011 10:46:11 PM PDT by unkus
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To: griswold3
[I thought they were all about ‘speaking truth to power’, but they never self reflect.]

Self reflection isn't part of the rules... 

"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm


37 posted on 05/03/2011 10:51:53 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Bockscar

It’s extremely frustrating.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 11:01:46 PM PDT by unkus
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To: tcrlaf

I’ve found that folks on the far left can be broken down in to three general categories:

The Uninformed-
Folks who don’t pay much attention, and only get in passing mainsteam media headlines, and don’t get much deeper in to it. The “Oprah hates Bush, so I guess I should, too!” crowd.

The Hopelessly Uninformed and Willfully Ignorant-
Rachel Maddow worshippers who refuse to listen to any inconvenient fact that runs counter to what the Left Media has told them to believe.

And, The Easily-Manipulated Whacko Orwellian Hypocrite, Mentally Ill, Dangers to Society—
The Carlos Hartmann’s, Jason Lee’s, and Pat Bedell’s of the world, who get so wrapped up in the rhetoric of hate that they take it upon themselves to kill, try to kill, or take hostages, to try and make whatever insane point they had put in their diseased heads, by the hate-pimps on the Left.

Unfortunately for us all, there are a hell of a lot more of the latter than we like to think.


Well said. Your analysis is very accurate, IMO.
The latter are the biggest Useful Idiots. They beleive in what they are doing. They are the messangers and instigators. They are very affective and useful in acheiving the “agenda”.


39 posted on 05/03/2011 11:08:00 PM PDT by unkus
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Actually, I like toying with them, especially on Facebook. In fact, my older daughter and I often end up tag-teaming them. It keeps our debating skills fresh, and they usually end up looking stupid at some point, lol!

Mrs. Prince of Space


40 posted on 05/03/2011 11:33:01 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Proud member of the only church started by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago...)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Not like that “stupid” Bush, who couldn’t find him.

Do they forget that eight years after the first WTC attack, Clinton didn't find him either?

I say didn't, because I believe he could have.

41 posted on 05/04/2011 1:01:24 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

BUMP for later reading


42 posted on 05/04/2011 3:21:26 AM PDT by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: Bockscar

My tagline.


43 posted on 05/04/2011 5:31:24 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
There is this 0bot that works for me. He hates Bush and started taking credit for 0 on the OBL thing right out of the gate on Monday. I pointed out to him that waterboarding and Gitmo led directly to the event. He denies that it was a factor. Showed him the news story about it and he claimed that the press was in the tank for W. I laughed right in his face.
44 posted on 05/04/2011 5:35:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: unkus

Liberals will ask you a convoluted, many factored question or a, “Do you still beat your wife” question and insist on a yes or no answer but if you ask them if the Sun rises in the East they will yammer for five minutes without answering.


45 posted on 05/04/2011 5:35:40 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: lp boonie

Today they are saying that the SEAL shot the wife in the leg.


46 posted on 05/04/2011 5:38:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: West Texas Chuck
He looked to me like a boy that had been hauled to the principle's office. The General and even Biden looked more in charge.
47 posted on 05/04/2011 5:39:48 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RipSawyer

It is very frustrating. I’d like to find a short, concise explanation on what makes their minds work so convolutedly.
As many say, it is a mental disease.


48 posted on 05/04/2011 7:54:44 AM PDT by unkus
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