Skip to comments.AOL News: Osama Bin Laden Was Unarmed During Navy SEAL Raid, Says White House (Baaaaarf!)
Posted on 05/04/2011 2:40:36 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
Panetta said that bin Laden made "some threatening moves that were made that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired."
The SEALs were back in the U.S. at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington for debriefing on the raid, lawmakers said after meeting with Panetta.
The question of how to present bin Laden's death to the world is a difficult balancing act for the White House. President Barack Obama told Americans that justice had been done, but the White House also declared that bin Laden's body was treated respectfully and sent to rest in a somber ceremony at sea.
Panetta underscored on Tuesday that Obama had given permission to kill the terror leader: "The authority here was to kill bin Laden," he said. "And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him."
For the long-term legacy of the most successful counterterrorism operation in U.S. history, the fact that bin Laden was unarmed is unlikely to matter much to the Americans he declared war against. President George W. Bush famously said he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive," and the CIA's top counterterrorism official once promised to bring bin Laden's head back on a stake.
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Uh yeah, so were 3000 beautiful Americans on 911.
That would have been the smart thing to do.
Ok they weren’t all Americans but you know what I mean.
So where’s the stake?
Didn’t take Obama and his White House rats to throw the SEALs under the bus, did it?
Why am I NOT surprised???
OBL could have turned himself in.
Panetta is not with the White House. He’s director of the CIA. Many SEALS join CIA. Many CIA were once SEALS. Obama is an habitual bus-thrower. But an intelligence agency ought to have at least some internal loyalty.
“The authority here was to kill bin Laden,” he said. “And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn’t appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him.”
To this day they still attribute this western ideal to them about surrendering with their hands up.
They still don’t understand that these people often wear suicide vests and blow themselves up?
It would be bad enough for your average Joe to talk like that, but head of the CIA?
What about those CIA people blown up at a Birthday party?
How long does it take to gain a clue?
didnt they have live feed as the operation was happening so how come there so many conflicting reports. Some couldn’t stop themselves from lying?
They were so eager to get the news out, they forgot to synchronize lies before going public.
The WH staff was in the ‘situation room’ watching direct helmet-cam live-time video.
ALL of the details have come through the WH/SofS. The amount of misinformation released is both astounding and simply not understandable.
The only consistency is the bravery and training of our troops.
No wonder there was no poll bounce for Zero.
Worse yet, to the black community the conflicting accounts sound like a replay of so many controversial cop shootings, a meme exploited by the left to divide Amerticans. I’m convinced that this mixed message is a deliberate political effort by the Chicago thugs.
When did he do that? I haven’t heard anything like that from the WH.
The question of how to present bin Laden’s death to the world is a difficult balancing act for the White House.
Hey world. We killed an evil murdering piece of shit terrorist. You are welcome.
Hmm... I’m having a tough time believing he wasn’t armed. Our guys didn’t drift quietly in through his bedroom window on dandelion seeds. They rappelled down from noisy helicopters, blew doors open and got into a firefight on the ground floor before making their way up to bin Laden’s room. I thought he always kept a gun nearby so what the heck? He had to have heard them coming and he had more than enough time to arm himself.
It’s getting worse: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110504/wl_nm/us_binladen_legitimacy
Obama’s going to wind up putting the Seals on trial for murder... that’s my guess.
The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members. "
Don’t hold your breath.
It’s beginning to sound to me like the Administration wanted to take UBL alive but the SEALS had other ideas. The Administration can’t get the story straight because it wasn’t their game plan.
I think he was under house arrest.@
“What about those CIA people blown up at a Birthday party?”
When did this happen? I don’t recall this.
When they questioned their source again they said they do not know why the WH is claiming he didn't, but he did have one.
“Its beginning to sound to me like the Administration wanted to take UBL alive but the SEALS had other ideas.”
I’ve been thinking along these lines since the news broke. I’d normally doubt that SEAL’s would take it upon themselves to put aside their orders, but this particular situation may have been different in their minds. It would have been in mine. To hell with Obozo and his courtroom sideshow.
I have a different take on all this.It seems to me it’s the WH staff along with the CIA and others that is throwing BHO under the bus. The unflattering photo in the Sit room, Rumors of preasure on the pres from HC and LP, but now it’s all Obama’s fault, it was his orders, etc.
I’m left with a question for the liberals in America: Why is it OK to authorize troops to kill OBL and not OK to use enhanced interrogation techniques on him in the event we captured him?
Liberals believe it’s better to kill them than “torture” or offend them, kinda like it’s better to kill Grandma than pay for her hip surgery. It’s part of their backward mentality and stunning hypocrisy.
Then why is Obambi going to ground zero tomorrow to gloat about it?
>”He had to have heard them coming and he had more than enough time to arm himself.”
Yes, if Bin Laden wasn’t armed that late in the attack, it was on purpose, and he had hopes of being captured alive. I’m glad he was killed anyway, and thereby deprived of the opportunity of using his trial for propaganda. In this instance “wanted dead or alive” — but preferably dead! — was justified.
Ideally he’d have been captured, waterboarded for information, then killed (executed after a non-public trial abroad), but this administration probably wouldn’t have had the gumption to do that. Also, as I understand it, while he was in hiding, he wouldn’t have known about many of the details of Al-Qaeda operations. So maybe the information lost by killing him without interrogating him wasn’t as important as we might think.
I hope a bunch of muzzies show up to protest him when the event occurs. I also hope that the MSM gets it on live TV.
> The guy was a rich coward who sat back and allowed others to do his dirty work (including suicide attacks) for him.
It’s possible that when it came time to face death, Bin Laden became a coward, but I doubt it. He was a rich person who could have led a relatively safe and self-indulgent life if he’d chosen not to become a terrorist. He knew he was putting his life on the line when he made that choice. I don’t doubt that evil fanatics are capable of being brave. (I think they’re typically more brave than the average person.) That doesn’t keep them from being contemptible, though.
My guess is that the reason he didn’t fight to the death (which would have enhanced his reputation as a heroic figure among those inclined to support him) is that he hoped to use his trial as a forum to spread his message. Killing him while he was unarmed — whether on purpose or because he really was thought to be resisting — isn’t going to hurt the U.S. much, though.
It’s hard for a terrorist of his notoriety to play the role of victim. Whatever victim value his being killed while being unarmed might have is more than counterbalanced by the detrimental effect of his not fighting to the death (when he had the opportunity to do so). Being killed while trying to surrender isn’t a heroic way to go.
“He had to have heard them coming and he had more than enough time to arm himself”
Reports are that there were a lot of children in his bedroom. I guess he was just being a good mass murdering father by not having weapons lay around. /s
I put nothing past Obama but that would be one very stupid move.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right. They must know this guy is a sick puppy, and they don’t want to go down with him.
Let's go to the video tape! Mel, are we looking at a case where a tie goes to the runner, here?
Close doesn't describe it, Jerry! Did OBL have his hands in the air before the team was able to squeeze off a couple of rounds? It appears his hands are coming forward and his palms aaaare juuuust beginning to show before we see the first muzzle flash (Ku-POW!) but gee, I dunno, Jerry, it's just too close to call!
Well, Mel, you do have to determine whether OBL is in fact, surrendering at that point. According to league rules, in order to surrender, an opponents hands do have to be above the chest and if we roll the tape again, I don't believe his hands have reached his nipples!
Well, Jer, I have seen close ones in my time, but this has got to rank up there with some of the all-time closest calls! That's it from the booth and back to Tony in the studio...
Oh so what now they want to go after the NAVY SEALS that killed OBL? If that happens, then Obama’s numbers will tank.
When videos of OBL surfaced after 9/11 with him gloating about the murders, he signed his execution warrant. To shot or blown up on sight with no warning and no chance to surrender.
Let’s not forget the ambush of Yamamoto! Great shooting!
Some people just need killing.
The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members. “
I can live with that! Carte Blanche for our SEALS!
It may be that you're correct but it's not in the nature of a liberal to want to kill. Obama struggled with this decision for 16 hours prior to giving the order-what order we don't know. What's to struggle with???? GITMO should have show all of us that Obama doesn't care if UBL had a platform. He believes that just bring them to trial and everything will be hunky-dory.
The trouble is people are believing Obama was thinking like a conservative-or even a moderate. It is not in his nature.
” I didn’t ask who gave the order, BECAUSE IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSINESS!!!”