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Blackhawk pilot's quick thinking credited in raid
cbsnews.com ^ | May 5, 2011 | David Martin

Posted on 05/05/2011 6:04:58 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CBS News)THE PENTAGON - Surprise was a key element in the raid that brought Navy SEALs to kill Osama bin Laden's at his compound in Pakistan. Stealth helicopters helped the Americans get in undetected.

The SEALs did the shooting inside bin Laden's compound, but an elite Army unit called Task Force 160 flew them there and back, and the pilot of one of the Blackhawk helicopters may have been the difference between success and failure, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

The SEALs were about to fast rope into the courtyard in front of bin Laden's house when the Blackhawk lost lift. Imagine what would have happened if it had crashed into the courtyard with all its SEALs still aboard.

Chris Marvin doesn't have to imagine. It happened to him in Afghanistan.

"How close did he come? As close as any helicopter pilot can, maybe closer," said Marvin, "but he had or she had the talent and skill level to land the aircraft safely and let everybody off without injuries."

During the mission early Monday morning in Pakistan, the pilot nudged the Blackhawk forward into a controlled crash but sheered off its tail section. The SEALs were able to continue with their mission and, before they left, blew up as much of the Blackhawk as they could but had to leave the tail section intact.

That gave aviation expert Bill Sweetman his first good look at a stealth helicopter.

"I think nobody outside the classified community really knew these existed," Sweetman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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1 posted on 05/05/2011 6:05:01 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

WOPA lives.


2 posted on 05/05/2011 6:10:17 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I believe all of these solders and sailors involved in this mission are the best the world has. God Bless them!


3 posted on 05/05/2011 6:13:50 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It would be interesting to know the whole story of why the helicopter lost lift, if that’s what happened.


4 posted on 05/05/2011 6:15:01 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I bet when we get to see one of these stealth helicopters it will be Ugly but Beautiful!


5 posted on 05/05/2011 6:16:31 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"but he had or she had the talent and skill level to land the aircraft safely and let everybody off without injuries."

I believe the author/CBS is wrong about female pilots or crew in the 160th.

6 posted on 05/05/2011 6:18:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Pakis get billions each year from us yet they are going to sell this stealth helicopter to the Chinese? We can’t bribe them enough to get back this sensitive technology?


7 posted on 05/05/2011 6:19:20 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Minn

If the mission went as reported there were supposedly two Black Hawks and two Chinooks involved. It would be extremely interesting to also see what a stealth Chinook looks like!


8 posted on 05/05/2011 6:23:06 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Here's a picture:














9 posted on 05/05/2011 6:24:55 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 833 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
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To: ansel12

This is a Democrat administration, and so would have wanted assurances from the Pentagon that the assassination team was “diverse” and “multicultural” and “multi-gender”, etc.


10 posted on 05/05/2011 6:27:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Minn
It would be interesting to know the whole story of why the helicopter lost lift, if that’s what happened.

I would hope its crew chief is looking for another occupation.

11 posted on 05/05/2011 6:28:55 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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“It would be extremely interesting to also see what a stealth Chinook looks like!”

It would be covered in large feather pillows! Rotor blades replaced with owl’s wings.

/sarc


12 posted on 05/05/2011 6:29:18 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less." M Rosen)
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To: ansel12

The author is just following the style book recommendation (PC) in describing the pilot, probably NOT an outright suggestion that it WAS a she.


13 posted on 05/05/2011 6:29:18 PM PDT by hatter
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’ve been waiting for someone else to pick up on that. Stealth Blackhawks is one thing, but stealth S***hooks??? That one I gotta see.


14 posted on 05/05/2011 6:29:42 PM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: Last Dakotan
I would hope its crew chief is looking for another occupation.

A heavily laden helicopter can lose lift when it gets into ground effect and the subsequent turbulence from the main rotor. It could have been because they landed in that courtyard. The walls could have raised the ground effect turbulence enough to cause the crash.

15 posted on 05/05/2011 6:35:12 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: null and void

OK, that’s sorta funny in a disappointing kind of way.


16 posted on 05/05/2011 6:39:31 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

evil me...


17 posted on 05/05/2011 6:43:18 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 833 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
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To: null and void

My wife just got pissed off at me when I called her in to look at your pic. I got a good chuckle tho.


18 posted on 05/05/2011 6:49:32 PM PDT by Rannug
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To: Malsua
A heavily laden helicopter can lose lift when it gets into ground effect and the subsequent turbulence from the main rotor. It could have been because they landed in that courtyard. The walls could have raised the ground effect turbulence enough to cause the crash.

Apparently the team spent months practicing for the raid using a 1:1 scale reproduction of the compound. I'd think that if the scenario you describe above is correct, it would've shown up during the training.
19 posted on 05/05/2011 6:50:41 PM PDT by tanknetter
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I am waiting to hear what happens when the gals on The View discover that TF 160 doesn’t accept gals as pilots.


20 posted on 05/05/2011 6:51:23 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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