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Osama bin Laden dead: al-Qaeda 'planning to attack trains on 9/11 anniversary'
Telegraph ^ | 05/05/11 | Jon Swaine, and Duncan Gardham

Posted on 05/05/2011 6:34:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Osama bin Laden dead: al-Qaeda 'planning to attack trains on 9/11 anniversary'

Computer files seized during the raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout show al-Qaeda were planning a "spectacular" attack on trains in the US on September 11, 2011, the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy.

By Jon Swaine, and Duncan Gardham

11:42PM BST 05 May 2011

The terrorist network is thought to have been planning to tamper with tracks so that a train would be derailed while crossing a bridge or valley, potentially killing hundreds of passengers.

The plan, developed in February last year, was disclosed by the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which issued a warning about it to law enforcement agencies around the US.

"We wanted to make our partners aware of the alleged plotting," Matthew Chandler, a DHS spokesman, said on Thursday night. "It is unclear if any further planning has been conducted".

The plot is said to have been in the "aspirational", rather than "operational" stages. No specific locations had been selected. But it will intensify long-standing fears that this year's tenth anniversary of the September 11 attacks will attract new threats.

The DHS said since Sunday's raid it had sent more officers to protect American airports and reviewed "protective measures for all potential terrorist targets", including the entire US transport system.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; anniversary; binladen; train

1 posted on 05/05/2011 6:35:05 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I hope we are not that stupid to give the press Bin Laden’s computer files.


2 posted on 05/05/2011 6:36:48 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

could be dis-information too...

Of course, with obozo, its probably all accurate that he’s putting out there.

Thank Goodness we didn’t do any waterboarding to get such info..uh, duh, wait,
WE DID!


3 posted on 05/05/2011 6:39:02 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: scooby321
From the State of the Union address in January:

“Within 25 years, our goal is to give 80 percent of Americans access to high-speed rail. (Applause.) This could allow you to go places in half the time it takes to travel by car. For some trips, it will be faster than flying –- without the pat-down. (Laughter and applause.) As we speak, routes in California and the Midwest are already underway.”

Great - highlight the delta in security procedures between flying and taking the train. Think Osama was watching? Both systems are aluminum tubes filled with people paste. ever hear of Madrid?

Must have been the TOTUS’ idea...

4 posted on 05/05/2011 6:44:40 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I lived in Southern Arizona when the disgruntled California ex-employee sabotaged Amtrak. The train was derailed over a wide wash out in the desert and how it was done was publicly divulged. It wasn’t rocket science but I would hope a more sensitive means of detection is in place.


5 posted on 05/05/2011 6:44:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why is this being release to the media? If there was any truth to this it would be kept from us.


6 posted on 05/05/2011 6:53:02 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Make it “Carry Your Gun to Work Day.”


7 posted on 05/05/2011 7:02:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

That’s every day!


8 posted on 05/05/2011 7:22:37 PM PDT by Fireone (Heating the tar and readying the feathers.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The mean Osama was aiming to blow up Obama’s high-speed trains. Luckily, Obama thwarted it in time.


9 posted on 05/05/2011 7:27:58 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: scooby321

Oh, I believe tne NYT have got whatever was there. And whatever was in Obongo’s head.


10 posted on 05/05/2011 7:30:07 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well great here comes the TSA to a train and/or bus station near you for daily sexual harrassment and cancer causing x-ray machines.


11 posted on 05/05/2011 8:21:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We cannot possibly protect everything which AQ could target. The ONLY safety there is has to lie in some sort of a credible threat of a price tag which those lunatics would not be willing to pay.


12 posted on 05/05/2011 8:36:55 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Here’s the false flag and the excuse to put TSA in train terminals. They were already working on doing it, here’s their ‘proof’ they will point to.


13 posted on 05/05/2011 8:39:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Computer files seized during the raid...

Didn't "The Failure" admin say these computer files were encrypted and would take a long time to access? More Brave Sierra from 0.

14 posted on 05/05/2011 8:48:36 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Here’s the false flag and the excuse to put TSA in train terminals."

You are exactly right. Big Fascist Federal Government just keeps on rolling along in every part of the nation.

15 posted on 05/05/2011 8:51:02 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
could be dis-information too...

Considering the current state of AMTRAK, a distinct possibility...

the infowarrior

16 posted on 05/05/2011 8:59:03 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Fireone
Of course it is. I meant a one-time national day of service (as jug-ears likes to put it) with a proclamation and all the other hoopla. In a great many of the states that have commuter trains it's darned near illegal to own a gun much less carry one so for them it would a real holiday and not at all an everyday thing.

:-)

17 posted on 05/05/2011 9:23:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: wendy1946
The ONLY safety there is has to lie in some sort of a credible threat of a price tag which those lunatics would not be willing to pay.

Now that's the problem. Normally the threat of killing someone tends to be a deterrent. However, as is obvious, death is not a problem for suicidal maniacs. So what's the solution then? Threaten to flatten Mecca and Medina? Possibly, but that's also problematic in that it sets up a dangerous precedent of eliminating religions, with the next in line possibly being Christianity.

18 posted on 05/05/2011 10:31:18 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: WPaCon
You could start by grinding up whatever's left of a suicide bomber's body with the body of a pig and letting the whole world know that was standard procedure...

You could even let the world know that you had developed an S-Bomb (slam-nation) for the towns and villages of suicide bombers, consisting of compressed air and flash-dried pork ground finer than flash powder...

19 posted on 05/05/2011 10:55:16 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: WPaCon
Try this.....

"...READ OUR WHITE PAPER russians are burying moslem chechen rebels in pigskin According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper,..."

20 posted on 05/05/2011 11:01:44 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Obviously Muslims don’t like pigs, but I think the need for jihad trumps the need to avoid pigs.

Usually an incident with Gen. Pershing stopping terrorism by shooting Muslims with bullets soaked in pig grease is cited as an example of this being an effective way to fight Muslims. I’d need to look into this more, but I believe that the Black Jack Pershing incident is actually a myth and that, while Muslims REALLY want to avoid pigs, that won’t stop them from waging jihad.

Anyways, I’m not 100% sure about any of this and would need to research a bit more.


21 posted on 05/05/2011 11:05:54 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: wendy1946

That article cites the Pershing incident, too.

It’s a little late for me now, but tomorrow I’ll probably look up whether the Pershing incident is true and whether or not pigs really deter terrorists.


22 posted on 05/05/2011 11:09:08 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think Willie Green must have been on the SEAL team.


23 posted on 05/05/2011 11:23:01 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: wendy1946

“The ONLY safety there is has to lie in some sort of a credible threat of a price tag which those lunatics would not be willing to pay.”

I’ve been advocating for years that we take the “hit us again and we nuke Mecca” approach.


24 posted on 05/06/2011 1:28:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WPaCon

“with the next in line possibly being Christianity.”

They can’t eliminate Christianity by destroying a city or even an entire country though. They’ve already tried to assassinate the Pope, and it’s no secret they want to destroy Israel, and the long-term plan is to kill or convert all Jews, Christians, and other religions. So what exactly do we have to lose?

I think it’s high time we stop calling Islam a religion too. If their “scripture” tells them to kill infidels and apostates, it’s not a religion, it’s a death cult. We need to treat them like the British treated the Thuggees.


25 posted on 05/06/2011 1:32:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WPaCon

The Pershing story is a myth I believe. There were quite a few instances where rumours spread about the British coating bullets in pig fat while fighting muslims in India, and also rumours of them coating the bullets in cow fat when fighting the Hindus, but none of those were true either. I think they can be attributed to either hysteria, or psychological warfare.


26 posted on 05/06/2011 1:34:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WPaCon

“whether or not pigs really deter terrorists.”

Pigs don’t deter terrorists. One of the principals of Islam is that anyone muslim who is martyred in jihad (whether committing violence themselves, or as collateral damage) gets a free pass to paradise. This overrules any other concerns, such as the purity, dietary, or burial laws. This is why the 9/11 hijackers could go to strip clubs every night, do cocaine, and party with prostitutes. They knew that if they completed their mission, it would all be moot.


27 posted on 05/06/2011 1:37:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
They can’t eliminate Christianity by destroying a city or even an entire country though. They’ve already tried to assassinate the Pope, and it’s no secret they want to destroy Israel, and the long-term plan is to kill or convert all Jews, Christians, and other religions. So what exactly do we have to lose?

It is true that a there is no city or object essential to Christianity. I'm thinking more of an illegalization of Christianity and persecutions similar to Roman times.

I think it’s high time we stop calling Islam a religion too. If their “scripture” tells them to kill infidels and apostates, it’s not a religion, it’s a death cult. We need to treat them like the British treated the Thuggees.

I'm usually in disagreement with this line of thinking when Islam is considered to be not a religion of free republic. Just because Islam is satanic doesn't mean it is not a religion. Just because we're used to the religion of Christianity being a force for good doesn't mean that a necessary characteristic of religion is that it is good. For example, I would consider the ancient Aztec religion to be a religion even though they cut live humans' hearts out in human sacrifice. But it would make sense to put Islam in a special category of religion, such as classifying it as a "seditious religion." Although, what's to stop that from happening to Christianity next? It would allow the left to officially persecute Christians.

28 posted on 05/06/2011 6:57:50 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wouldn’t it be pretty easy to create a set of “rail drone” inspectors that run on the tracks ahead of trains (especially passenger trains) and verify safety?


29 posted on 05/06/2011 7:12:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (...a.k.a. "Norm L. C. Bias")
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To: WPaCon

Good points, but I don’t see any other way to defend against it than to isolate it for what it is. Perhaps it’s not something to be done at the government level, but rather a cultural innoculation is needed.

“Although, what’s to stop that from happening to Christianity next? It would allow the left to officially persecute Christians.”

Probably nothing, I think they’re going to do that eventually anyways.


30 posted on 05/06/2011 7:34:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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