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Killing Osama (Oliver North)
Creators Syndicate ^ | May 6, 2011 | Oliver North

Posted on 05/05/2011 6:54:28 PM PDT by jazusamo

WASHINGTON, D.C. — It took nine years, seven months and 21 days to pinpoint the man who plotted, paid for and perpetrated the terror attacks of 9-11-01. When a U.S. Navy SEAL team finally found Osama bin Laden in the third-floor bedroom of a comfortable house in a suburb of Islamabad, Pakistan, they killed him.

Last Sunday's complex and highly successful operation validates Ronald Reagan's maxim for terrorists after U.S. Navy SEALs captured the murderous hijackers of the Achille Lauro in October 1985: "You can run, but you can't hide." Afterward, one of the participants penned a corollary: "Don't bother to run — you will only die tired."

Those axioms were validated again last Sunday by a 24-man Navy SEAL task force and aircrews from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment — the "Nightstalkers" — when they took out the world's most wanted terrorist.

These "Operators" — part of the same "Tier One" Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) unit the Reagan administration employed in Grenada in 1983, and two years later during the Achille Lauro hijacking, are now the focus of public acclaim and controversy thanks to the O-Team's insatiable thirst for public approval.

President Barack Obama's surprise announcement at 11:35 p.m. Sunday night, "The United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden," has generated well-deserved accolades for those who planned and executed the mission. Unfortunately, it has also prompted extraordinary criticism, speculation and damaging revelations about operational capabilities that ought to remain classified at best or uncertain at least.

Within hours of Obama's announcement, unnamed administration officials were providing what turned out to be conflicting details on what transpired in Abbottabad. This transparent attempt to show how closely the White House "supervised" the operation only served to stimulate a tsunami of controversy and obscure the extraordinary courage and skill with which the raid was carried out.

The O-Team should have known the so-called mainstream media's quest to find fault with the U.S. military would not be placated by the narrative they had released. The potentates of the press demand to know:

"Did the SEALs 'botch' the destruction of a damaged MH-60 helicopter" at the compound?

"Was there a 40-minute firefight with the SEALs or not?"

"Did the president personally order bin Laden killed?"

"Why the haste to give this murderous terror leader a Muslim burial at sea?"

"Why not release photos of the dead terror kingpin?"

At the United Nations, America's critics now want to investigate whether Osama bin Laden's human rights were violated. Pakistani officials, implausibly claiming they knew nothing of the al-Qaida founder's presence in the compound, are complaining about violations of their sovereignty. A Native American tribal leader has even groused about bin Laden's code-name: "Geronimo." And in Congress, anti-military doves insist we should immediately pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan.

None of this had to happen. All the White House had to do once they knew bin Laden was dead was to say nothing. That's the way it's supposed to be for covert operations. When asked, respond with: "No comment."

Such a course of action would no doubt result in extraordinary speculation. Photos of the tail section of a U.S. MH-60 helicopter and images of the dead taken by Pakistani authorities after the raid would still get published, and global "social networks" would be full of rumors, theories and supposition for weeks or months. But intricate details on intelligence means and methods, tactics, techniques and procedures, numbers of U.S. personnel involved and unique communications equipment and capabilities would remain matters of conjecture.

Inevitably, there would be unconfirmed "leaks" from officials in Washington and Islamabad. Yet, the message to America's enemies would still be the same. Be afraid. Be very afraid. After all, that is the reason we have JSOC.

A "we will not confirm or deny" statement from the White House in the aftermath of the JSOC operation would have made it more difficult in the short-term for Obama to appear "decisive" and "hands on." But years from now, when the full story was finally revealed, he would have been seen as more "presidential." It also would have made it easier for those friends we do have in Pakistan to continue cooperating with our military and intelligence services.

Some lessons learned:

Our Special Operations troops are world-class athletes who employ remarkable technology while taking enormous risks. Only a small handful — like Navy SEAL Medal of Honor recipient Michael Murphy, for whom a destroyer was named this week — are ever recognized for their courage.

Second, the enhanced interrogation techniques approved in the Bush administration worked. Thank you, GWB.

Third, U.S. bases in Afghanistan were essential to the success of the operation. The ayatollahs running Tehran's nuclear weapons program are hoping we quickly pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Fourth, the decision not to release "death photos" of bin Laden was right. Bowe Bergdahl, a U.S. Army soldier, is still being held by the Taliban. Enough said.

Finally, we are told by the president's handlers that he made a "courageous" and "gutsy call" in ordering the SEALs to eliminate al-Qaida's founder, instead of doing it with a JDAM or a cruise missile. But given what we now know about where bin Laden was hiding — surrounded by an entire division of Pakistan's Army — that was never really an option.

Obama really had but two choices: Go with the JSOC mission or not go at all. He made the right decision. Regrettably, he also decided he wanted everyone to know about it.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 72versions; binladen; intelligence; obama; obltermination; olivernorth; opsec; shiftingstory
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Obama is an idiot and I got that on very good authority.
1 posted on 05/05/2011 6:54:35 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 05/05/2011 6:57:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Nice post!


3 posted on 05/05/2011 7:01:11 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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4 posted on 05/05/2011 7:03:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Obama is the ultimate drug store cowboy!
5 posted on 05/05/2011 7:04:47 PM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: jazusamo
It's beginning to appear to me that OBL was under some form of modified house arrest. His location was no coincidence.
6 posted on 05/05/2011 7:04:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Navy SEALs: They'll shoot your eyes out.)
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To: Travis McGee
OBL was under some form of modified house arrest

Money can buy happiness, at least until the SEALs showed up.

7 posted on 05/05/2011 7:06:22 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Travis McGee

That’s a great tagline!


8 posted on 05/05/2011 7:07:19 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
When dealing with dangerous dogs, like wolves, the best policy is:
Shoot
Shovel
Shut up
9 posted on 05/05/2011 7:08:47 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: jazusamo

North makes a very good point about saying nothing or “no comment”.

In his rush to grandstand and politicize the situation, Obama interfered with the analysis of the intel gathered at the kill site. By announcing that bin Laden was killed, he scattered all the Al Qaeda members to the wind. His silence would have allowed the CIA and others to roll up anyone mentioned or connected to bin Laden.

Obama is a narcissistic opportunist with no comprehension of what the leader of the Free World should be.


10 posted on 05/05/2011 7:09:19 PM PDT by burroak
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To: burroak

Well said. Obama is only interested in 2012.


11 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I am surprised that conservative opinion makers have not focused on the rank amateurism of Obama and his advisers in regards to his premature declaration of “We got him.”

Any undercover/covert operative knows to keep quiet and follow all the intel until the end of the line. Basic drug interdiction officers know that. It’s the life line for gathering up the bad guys.

Why did his advisers not shut him up of were they overruled?


12 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:49 PM PDT by burroak
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To: jazusamo

Not going to help zer0, Hes going to retirement


13 posted on 05/05/2011 7:23:34 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: jazusamo

“Obama is an idiot.....”

He is transparent after all.


14 posted on 05/05/2011 7:26:56 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, a question if I may. What is protocol on head shots versus center mass on an operation like this?


15 posted on 05/05/2011 7:34:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: burroak
Why did his advisers not shut him up of were they overruled?

That's a great question, one that applies to many of his antics and one which I've no clear answer to.

My guess is, and it's only a guess, that he listens to his advisers to get different perspectives and then does what he thinks is best for his own career and be damned with anything else, including the good of the country.

I know that's pessimistic on my part but I believe it.

16 posted on 05/05/2011 7:35:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: reefdiver

I pray you’re right and believe you are.


17 posted on 05/05/2011 7:37:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: burroak

Yes, it would have much better to just say no comment when the pieces of our helicopter were found. Word about the operation would have gotten out anyway when bin Laden’s 12 year-old daughter said Americans shot him and took his body. “No comment” would have been the perfect reply and the one that President Bush would have given.


18 posted on 05/05/2011 7:38:21 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping, Jaz.

Ollie makes a good point: Turning this into a media circus will hamper our ability to get cooperation and support in ME countries in the future.


19 posted on 05/05/2011 7:41:11 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: jazusamo
At the United Nations, America's critics now want to investigate whether Osama bin Laden's human rights were violated.

If it means making nice with the globalists, then I guess we'll just have to deliver Obama up to the Hague for trial.

20 posted on 05/05/2011 7:41:57 PM PDT by kevao
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To: jazusamo
Nobody knows whether the Seal Team killed Osama(or a look alike), and nobody will EVER KNOW!!!..

The cadaver was rushed to the Vincent and send on to be with 72 Sturgeons..

21 posted on 05/05/2011 7:43:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: jazusamo

BTTT !!


22 posted on 05/05/2011 7:52:21 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jazusamo

You are wise.

LLS


23 posted on 05/05/2011 8:07:26 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: musicman

When dealing with a secret operation one should answer, “ I can neither confirm or deny the action.” Keeping quiet lets one take action on what has been found without blabbing it to the world.


24 posted on 05/05/2011 8:08:34 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: jwalsh07
What is protocol on head shots versus center mass on an operation like this?

Firstly, there is no body armor on the head (and if there is one, like a helmet, you can see it.) Secondly, center mass shots may be survivable; two shots to the head from anything at or above .223 are not.

25 posted on 05/05/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: jazusamo

Col North identifies the biggest blunder of Obama in the whole operation: immediately announcing it.

It was absolutely stupid. Didn’t it occur to Obama, Hillary or Panetta that the immediate announcement might compromise the usefulness of gathered intelligence from the site?

On its own, it would have taken at least 36-72 hours before the Pakistani authorities would have figured out exactly what happened and word leaked out to other members of the al Qaeda network that bin Laden had been killed and his computers, etc. taken. Maybe even longer, depending on bin Laden’s regular communication methods.

Waiting even just a week to announce it might have given our intelligence agencies a fighting chance to roll up other parts of the network who might not yet have gotten the word.

It is almost as if they wanted to quickly alert al Qaeda to what happened. Are they really that stupid? Or were they so eager to credit Obama (”I, me, I, I, me”) as the great Osama-killer that they just didn’t care that they were leaving things on the table?


26 posted on 05/05/2011 8:31:50 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: jazusamo

I can confirm OBL has been killed. Beyond that, I have no comment would have been best.


27 posted on 05/05/2011 8:59:07 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Meet the New Boss
If he is a muslim, and if - as many suspect - he is a 'Manchurian candidate' with the intent to help islam dominate the world by diminishing 'the great satan' (America), then he and Obama are just two parts of the same team.

In which case, his immediate announcement serves well in, as you point out, alerting the rest of the team while making obsolete any intel gleaned from the mission.

This seems to fit in with many things he's done, such as tie our soldiers' hands with ROE that benefit the enemy and the like. imo

28 posted on 05/05/2011 9:12:41 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: the anti-liberal

My typo - what’s the difference between ‘Obama’ and ‘Osama’? Just a little bs.


29 posted on 05/05/2011 9:15:03 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: jazusamo

North makes a good point...as do other posters responding here.

Since Pakistan officials claim they didn’t know he was there, but for Obama’s eagerness to take credit, no one would know who we took out.

For all anyone would know, it could have been another #2 link in the terrorist chain. Pakistan surely couldn’t claim we got Osama. Since they claim they didn’t know he was there. Then, if they later claimed it was Osama, then they would be admitting they knew he was there.

Obviously, sooner or later, no matter what, the truth would be outed. Still, in the interim, much more intelligence could have been garnered. Beginning with-—what did the Pakistani’s know, and when did they know it?

Obama’s eagerness to take credit, created a narrative for the Pakistani officials, letting them off the hook. Doing so, at a time when they should be held accountable to the world, for harboring a fugitive.

Instead, now the narrative is to release the pics, or to not release the pics. When the narrative should be to charge Pakistan officials for harboring a fugitive.


30 posted on 05/05/2011 9:21:29 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: jazusamo

North makes the best case for not releasing the photos.


31 posted on 05/05/2011 9:38:53 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Ben Hecks
Turning this into a media circus may have been Obama’s intent. He's hoping to prevent the killing of more of his Muslim terrorist buddies in the future, so there's method to the madness.
32 posted on 05/05/2011 9:58:04 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: pandoraou812

ping to an excellent article. Ollie North cuts to the bottom line on many aspects of the mission that took out bin Laden.


33 posted on 05/05/2011 10:19:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
Thanks! Reading this made me feel better. I recall my dad saying loose lips sink ships, 0 needs to learn that. The no comment was the perfect answer. However 0’s personality will never allow him not to crow like a rooster even if it put us in danger IMHO.
34 posted on 05/05/2011 10:33:36 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: pandoraou812
However 0’s personality will never allow him not to crow like a rooster even if it put us in danger IMHO.

You're right and he has. As others have said; only 0bummer could screw up the successful mission of taking out the most notorious terrorist of our time. I bet he drinks straight out of the milk carton and backwashes too. lol

35 posted on 05/05/2011 10:57:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Next rooster I get I am going to have to name it Obama. Maybe a goat can be Biden.


36 posted on 05/05/2011 11:10:17 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: Greysard
Firstly, there is no body armor on the head (and if there is one, like a helmet, you can see it.) Secondly, center mass shots may be survivable; two shots to the head from anything at or above .223 are not.

What do you call two shots and a splash of salt water?

A bin Laden cocktail!

37 posted on 05/05/2011 11:16:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Meet the New Boss
It is almost as if they wanted to quickly alert al Qaeda to what happened. Are they really that stupid?

Maybe Obama really did want to alert them.

Remember his face in that situation-room photo? Absolutely grim-faced, and it looked to me like he did NOT want this to be happening, as if he were more concerned about his brother-in-faith Osama Bin Laden and the welfare of the Umma.

Look at it again. Does his face look like he's the concerned captain-in-chief of our military? Or an ideologue getting bad news about a brother-in-arms? He looks like he's watching Rodney King reruns, actually.

38 posted on 05/05/2011 11:38:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: jazusamo
"Fourth, the decision not to release "death photos" of bin Laden was right. Bowe Bergdahl, a U.S. Army soldier, is still being held by the Taliban. Enough said. "

Based on this, they should have kept quiet about killing OBL till the soldier was released. Now, who knows what will happen to him. Meanwhile they insult us that the photo is too gory.

39 posted on 05/06/2011 1:20:44 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: jwalsh07

SEALs practice mainly headshots in CQB. They assume their targets are wearing body armor. No 2+1. Just two to the head.


40 posted on 05/06/2011 4:35:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Navy SEALs: They'll shoot your eyes out.)
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To: jazusamo

God Bless Ollie. He’s right on all counts.

The world will not respect America until we clean out the slime and dreck at the top and on down through the shoulders of our presidential administration.


41 posted on 05/06/2011 4:43:36 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: jazusamo

I like Oliver North’s writings.

A few thoughts I would add are that OBL as important as he once was as One instigator of Islamic-terrorism- in-action (whatever one may call it), will, most likely, remain a figurehead (symbolic) for such ideology & actions. It is already history. My guess, he is/was more so for those in the West, than the majority of people in the ME, who have a different perpective on OBL and related matters. My rudimentary assessment is that most in the moslem world do not & have not subscribed to OBL-type ideology or actions.

Then again, it doesn’t matter if 95% don’t want it, if 5% have the will and want to carry out terrorist acts because of some perverted ideology, which they are taught. We have to worry about that 5%. And, that 5% can be far more organised than the rest, because they have the will, and, therefore, will find the means too.

Whether they (the WH & Co.) decide to release photos of his dead body or not is no longer relevant. It would’ve been infinitely better if the WH, once deciding to go public on this event, to have gotten its story-line & facts straight & communicated them accordingly than continuously changing them. Changing basic & critical details on an almost hourly basis did not help with natural skepticism & cynicism that often follow such major events, worldwide. It affects credibility & can be irreversible.

More Importantly, killing ‘figureheads’ (and leaders) such as OBL, is great, but killing the *Ideology* they spread, which, in turn, helps prompt terrorism, as well as what fuels it, are far better in the long term. IOW, go for the jugular i.e. the ideology (a set of beliefs & values & don’t give them oxygen). Otherwise, it can be the case of “the king is dead, long live the king”.


42 posted on 05/06/2011 6:01:15 AM PDT by odds
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To: lentulusgracchus

He looked exactly the same way when he made the announcement on Sunday night. In fact he looked pissed as hell he even had to make that announcement.


43 posted on 05/06/2011 6:17:25 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: the anti-liberal; NFHale; sickoflibs
what’s the difference between ‘Obama’ and ‘Osama’? Just a little bs

you should trademark that as a tagline...

44 posted on 05/06/2011 8:25:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

That is a teeshirt fortune in the making. Sell them outside Ft Campbell today and you won’t have to work for a month.


45 posted on 05/06/2011 8:26:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: jazusamo

I guess in the past what would have happened is that the President would have come out and said, “He’s dead. We will have no more to say on this.”

And then end it.

It would have been sticky for a couple of days. But they would not look like clowns.


46 posted on 05/06/2011 8:30:07 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks.


47 posted on 05/06/2011 8:42:02 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jazusamo
Col. North has the best and most accurate analysis of the mission and its godawful civilian commandants I have yet read.

I trust Oliver more than any military analyst on the scene today. I used to have trust in Fox's Col. Peters, but he's gone over to the grey side too often lately.

Go Ollie!

Leni

48 posted on 05/06/2011 8:57:03 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: jazusamo; Gilbo_3; antiliberal; hiredhand; Squantos; DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

“...At the United Nations, America’s critics now want to investigate whether Osama bin Laden’s human rights were violated. Pakistani officials, implausibly claiming they knew nothing of the al-Qaida founder’s presence in the compound, are complaining about violations of their sovereignty. A Native American tribal leader has even groused about bin Laden’s code-name: “Geronimo.” And in Congress, anti-military doves insist we should immediately pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan....”

At this point. Mr. Hale would like to stand and address these points one by one:

1. RE the United Nations “critic” and the “Human Rights” issue:
Dear What-ever-the-Hell-yer-name-is Interchangeable, Instantly Replaceable Leftist Retard: Let me make this perfectly clear for you. OBL gave up ANY chance at being treated like a human being the moment he made the decision and gave the go-ahead to have his raghead goathumping flunkies drive airplanes loaded with innocent civilians into American buildings loaded with other innocent civilians. If you have a problem with our treatment and disposal of trash, you can blow it out yer Collectivized Rectum. Be thankful that we as a Nation are still tolerant and patient with YOU. That could end real, real quick.

2. RE Pakistani Official Complaining about sovereignty:
Get down on your knees and thank God (the REAL one, not your child molesting prophet) that we didn’t go into full out World War II-style Retribution Mode on your worthless asses. You should also thank God that we have a pretty worthless assclown schmuck, much like yourself, in the White House right now, and not Ronald Reagan. If that were the case, you and the rest of your miserable scheisse-hole of a country would probably be a smoking hole in the ground for harboring that fecal pile.

3. RE Some “Native American” whining about Geronimo:
Get over it, Chief Rain-in-the-Puss. Suck it up. Geronimo was a fercious warrior (and an enemy of the United States at the time, I might add). We’re honoring him by naming an operation after him, because we are a warrior culture, and respect friend AND foe. Evidently, you’re too stupid to understand that, or you’ve been so thoroughly indoctrinated in tired, hackneyed libtard race, class, and gender warfare nonsense that your head is too far up your own arse to EVER be able to make sense. And by the way - I’m a “NATIVE American” too - I was BORN here, as was multiple preceeding generations of my family. How about just trying to be AMERICAN for once, and do some good for your country?

4. Anti-Military Congresscritters:
Get bent you stupid, retarded socialist diaperwipes. Your shoeshine boy in the White House couldn’t even make the decision to pull the trigger on OBL - he had to have Panetta make the call. Again - be thankful we’re a patient and tolerant people. That may end soon too.

That is all.


49 posted on 05/06/2011 9:22:49 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

i love it Haledude, now tell us how you really feel...8^}


50 posted on 05/06/2011 10:10:12 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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