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US: Only single bin Laden defender shot at SEALs
Associated Press ^ | May 5, 2011 | ROBERT BURNS and PAULINE JELINEK

Posted on 05/05/2011 8:07:42 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: OldDeckHand
But the larger point about not telling the world bin Laden was dead, or even there, probably has some merit. Operationally, we would be much better off if we didn't tell them their leader was dead. That would have led to even more confusion for them.

Agreed and that is my point. In regards to the helicopter I have given that some thought. The wise approach would have been to have a somewhat high level Defense official announce that we are aware of the loss. "This is a loss that is going to happen during ongoing military operations." After that is denial and not another word. This operation could have been one of the easiest to compartmentalize even if it was a snatch instead of a tap.

Imagine all of the potential disinformation that could have been sown on the Jihadi websites. Instead they had to campaign on it. I am also very embarrassed.
61 posted on 05/05/2011 9:44:33 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: scott7278

I like the third to the last version ....the one with the kitty


62 posted on 05/05/2011 9:47:08 PM PDT by woofie
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To: 240B
In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: “Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.

That is probably not true. If it were, then all the billions of dollars spent with Lockheed, BAE, etc. for C3 systems by the Pentagon and CIA were wasted. The whole point of those systems is to feed real time data back to the commanders in the USA. IF they really did fail that's more significant news than the outcome of the mission itself.

63 posted on 05/05/2011 9:48:37 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: 240B

On another note. Obama even showing this picture is far and away an abuse of power and WH intel. That bastard needs his ass kicked as soon as he gets off the swing set.


64 posted on 05/05/2011 9:48:57 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: PA Engineer
If I was running that thing. Especially with SEAL team six.
No one would ever know I was there. No one would ever know I left.

Osama would have just disappeared *poof* gone in 60 seconds.

This circus USA! USA! had nothing to do with 9/11 or with Osama. It was all about distracting America to some very serious flaws with Obama’s background and policies. It was ‘The Obama Show’. It was not a serious operation.

The way it was handled served the cause of Muslim radicals, gave away radical new stealth technology, boosted Obama as some kind of American hero, and destroyed a potential coup of terrorist information all at the same time. It was a freakin’ disaster under the guise of a Great American Victory.

65 posted on 05/05/2011 9:49:53 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Everything this administration has said since Sunday has been a lie.

Osama didn’t resist because he was dead.

Occam’s Razor.

Obama wants to take credit for killing him while at the same time maintaining plausible deniability.

The Adminstration has taken the Sergeant Shultz defense. “I know nothing”


66 posted on 05/05/2011 9:51:42 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: PA Engineer
In regards to the helicopter...

All they had to say was that it was involved in a secret meeting with intelligence contacts in Pakistan. Deny everything else.

67 posted on 05/05/2011 9:51:47 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: woofie
My favorite is when Bin Laden jumps over the Kia Optima and wins the Slam Dunk Contest. Oh wait...
68 posted on 05/05/2011 9:52:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: 240B

I agree with every point you made. Our SEAL team was successful and our leadership failed them and America. You used a word that has been back of my mind since the “burial at sea” announcement. DISASTER. I have been avoiding that word, but their is no other way to view what this WH has done.


69 posted on 05/05/2011 9:55:51 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: P-Marlowe

At this point, I think it entirely rational to at least have some healthy skepticism that our forces did anything in Pakistan at that compound. We have no evidence. Yes, we have seen part of a destroyed helicopter, and several dead people, but what evidence is there that those are what they are alleged to be? Without evidence, we are forced to take this administration’s allegations on faith only. I’m no longer prepared to do that.

Obama and his minions have every motive to take credit for killing OBL, whether or not they did. They also are discrediting our SEALS in the process, knowing the SEALS can’t violate their oaths. This situation is becoming truly alarming at this point.


70 posted on 05/05/2011 9:59:32 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: P-Marlowe
Didn't Madeline Notsobright say that President Bush had OBL on ice back in 2004 and was just waiting to spring him to win the Election?

Liberals are never haunted by their ignorance.

71 posted on 05/05/2011 10:00:03 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: freeandfreezing
All they had to say was that it was involved in a secret meeting with intelligence contacts in Pakistan. Deny everything else.

I like it and very plausible considering the location of the Pakistani military headquarters. It also has the beauty of causing confusion in the ISI while giving them an out (while forcing their hands) with the muslim base.
72 posted on 05/05/2011 10:01:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer
The reason he had not been taken out is because of the satellite dish on the top of his house. We knew where he was. We knew who he was. We knew he had no phone or internet and that everything goes across that dish. I have no inside information on this but I have no doubt that we had been monitoring that dish for years. Monitoring the dish is the same or better than having Osama.

Now that intelligence asset is gone. You could look at it as a beautiful flower in the garden that no one wants to pick because no one wants to see it die.

When you put a child like Obama in office, not only did he pick it, he put it in his lapel and then shouted LOOK AT ME! Look how great I look with my beautiful flower!

I, like others on this forum, am surprised the military and CIA supported this childish self-serving adventure.

73 posted on 05/05/2011 10:06:30 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: RacerX1128
Obama, penesta, all of them sitting there only thinking about 2012. Not justice. Not revenge. Not anything but 2012.

As luck would have it, this time the interests of 'Rat 2012 happened to coincide with those of the United States. Admittedly, a rare occurrence, justified solely by electoral necessity. Of course, it will be rich to watch as the reality sinks in upon the moonbats: their guy is every bit as much a war criminal as GWB! Will the ICC put out a warrant? LOL!

74 posted on 05/05/2011 10:11:33 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: PA Engineer

Very good points

I had long suspected Usama was dead and we were throwing out dis info ...Bush came out and said there would be disinfo....
Not saying is the ultimate revenge


75 posted on 05/05/2011 10:11:37 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And it was with a squirt gun, no less.

/Facepalm


76 posted on 05/05/2011 10:28:11 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: 240B

Obama will probably hand these SEALs over to the ICC (International Criminal Court).


77 posted on 05/05/2011 10:31:21 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: matt1234

We saw three dead swarthy bloody guys.

Identity unknown.

Location unknown.

Situation involving death unknown.

Could be any photo of 3 dead swarthy bloody guys from 2001 until now.
[and digital EXIF data -can- be ‘fixed’]

If they’d had “I Survived Eid-al-Adha 2010” t-shirts on, it would be a lot easier to buy.


78 posted on 05/05/2011 10:32:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This is beginning to take on a Kennedy Assassination / Roswell / Area 51 / Bigfoot / Obama Birth Certificate / Ron Brown / D.B. Cooper kind of feel.
79 posted on 05/05/2011 10:35:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: 240B

The next version will involve shooting OBL’s arthritic, blind Golden Retriever, Muffykins, as soon as they went in the living room.


80 posted on 05/05/2011 10:36:06 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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