But one cannot discount the fact that he WAS waterboarded. Once the subject breaks, then yes, the info comes out without the need for further extraordinary measures. Perhaps the specific bit of intelligence did not come directly out of a boarding session but you cannot extrapolate that it would have come if the boarding had never been used.
The problem is it was approved and THEN disapproved along with "standing for a long time", sleep deprivation", etc etc
McCain agrees with the new rules...but you know damn well he does it with a wink, wink.