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Was Bin Laden betrayed by his right-hand man? Al Qaeda's deputy leader 'led U.S. troops ...
Daily Mail ^ | 6th May 2011 | Paul Bentley

Posted on 05/06/2011 8:37:07 PM PDT by george76

Osama Bin Laden's deputy led U.S. troops to the Al Qaeda leader's hideout so he could take over the terrorist group, it was claimed today.

Egyptian Ayman Al Zawahiri, who has been touted widely as the man who will succeed Bin Laden as the head of Al Qaeda, turned his back on his terrorist leader following a prolonged power struggle, according to a Saudi newspaper.

The plot to get rid of Bin Laden began when Zawahiri’s faction persuaded bin Laden to leave the protection of the tribal areas along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Al Qaeda's Egyptian faction then hatched a plan to dispose of Saudi-born Bin Laden after irresolvable divisions developed between the terrorist group's top two men.

'The Egyptian faction of Al Qaeda is defacto running the organisation now and since he was taken ill in 2004 they have been trying to take full control,'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alzawahiri; aq; aymanalzawahiri; binladen; discord; egypt; eij; mi6; oneagainsttheother; terrorist; zawahiri
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Was Bin Laden betrayed by his right-hand man? Al Qaeda's deputy leader 'led U.S. troops to Pakistan hideaway'

1 posted on 05/06/2011 8:37:14 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

It’s plausible but on the other hand not a big pay off for the courier as things turned out. Our guys have gotten awfully good and they had tracked the courier before he could have led them anywhere.


2 posted on 05/06/2011 8:48:45 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: george76

I think it’s plausible. Especially since Obama has been doing so much to promote the terrorist takeover of Egypt.

Quid pro quo. Obama deposes Mubarak and gives Zawahiri Egypt, and Zawahiri gives Obama Bin Ladin.

And I believe the Pakistani government went along with it, since they did nothing to intervene when the Seals went into Bin Ladin’s compound. I’m not sure if they could have stopped the raid, but apparently they didn’t even try.


3 posted on 05/06/2011 8:50:54 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: RitaOK

The article states the courier knew he was being tracked, and did it on purpose. It was Z’s employee apparently. I don’t know if it is true, but this is what the article stated.


4 posted on 05/06/2011 8:52:24 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: george76

And even if UBL wasn’t betrayed by Al Zawahiri, its good for the CIA to nonetheless sow dissension and distrust in their ranks.


5 posted on 05/06/2011 9:02:03 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: RitaOK

Just to conflate...But I have been hearing rumors over the last week, that someone was expecting to collect the $25 Mil Reward on UBL.


6 posted on 05/06/2011 9:05:50 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: george76

I think this is probably true. The first suspicion always has to fall on the person who is most likely to benefit. In this case, the person most likely to benefit from bin Laden’s removal is Ayman al Zawahiri. He has to be very tired of waiting and his life is waning; time to make a change! Time to put Ayman al Zawahiri in the throne!


7 posted on 05/06/2011 9:09:49 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: HollyB

The article states the courier knew he was being tracked, and did it on purpose. “ =================

Yes, I read that. The infighting may have been true or not. OBL didn’t seem to be the center of the universe as in the beginning so who knows how much of a threat he was to Z. Courier guy was between a rock and a hard place whether he knew or not that he was being tracked. If he knew he sure didn’t prepare with much defensive fire power, so he would have to go the martyr route. After all he was dead anyway with no where to run and no where to hide and no re-enforcements. I doubt if he knew. They just stayed too unprepared during all those months under observation.


8 posted on 05/06/2011 9:14:39 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: RitaOK

It does not even matter if this is true or not since anything which undermines the Z Man and makes operatives question their superiors. Sow mistrust.


9 posted on 05/06/2011 9:20:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: PGR88
And even if UBL wasn’t betrayed by Al Zawahiri, its good for the CIA to nonetheless sow dissension and distrust in their ranks.

From everything that has made its way into the media this week, I'd say that the disinformation campaign is in full gear, and is either there to flush people out and put them on the move so our drones/satellites/signals people catch them moving around, or to continue to to just create doubt in general. Or maybe it's not a disinformation campaign, maybe Bin Laden was sold out by his fellow Al Qaeda members, if you are Zawarhiri or anybody associated with him, you can't be too careful or too trusting ;-)
10 posted on 05/06/2011 9:30:46 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I think this is all psyops. Kill OBL, and then disrupt AQ through creating suspicion and mistrust.


11 posted on 05/06/2011 9:32:22 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cicero
Quid pro quo. Obama deposes Mubarak and gives Zawahiri Egypt, and Zawahiri gives Obama Bin Ladin.

And George Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks months in advance. Give me a break, as crappy as this administration is, nobody in it wants an Egypt led by Al Qaeda, because of this little country that sits right next door to Egypt.

Maybe you have heard of it, it's called "Israel" and a lot of politicians in the US love it come election time.

I have an interesting idea. Maybe the people in Egypt got tired of living what amounted to a dictatorship complete with secret police for the last 30 years. I know that's a hard concept, but I imagine that even you would grow weary of living under an oppressive government.
12 posted on 05/06/2011 9:35:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Rembrandt; BIGLOOK; Fred Nerks; LucyT; null and void; Candor7

Ayman al Zawahiri was likely very tired of waiting


13 posted on 05/06/2011 9:38:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Daily Mail has some amazing reportage on this whole thing.

They were also the ones who reported that the April 25th Wikileaks dump made it clear (for those who waded through it), that the US was in possession of the full name of the courier (who just happened to be the guy who owned the “big house” in Abbottabad).

That could have triggered a stampede to take out OBL before he got wind of it.


14 posted on 05/06/2011 9:44:54 PM PDT by cookcounty (Resume item--- Barack Obama: Paid Spectator, US Senate, 2004-2008.)
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To: DGHoodini
".But I have been hearing rumors over the last week, that someone was expecting to collect the $25 Mil Reward on UBL."

Yup. Dick Cheney.

15 posted on 05/06/2011 9:46:19 PM PDT by cookcounty (Resume item--- Barack Obama: Paid Spectator, US Senate, 2004-2008.)
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To: af_vet_rr

You may be right, but Obama is NO friend of Israel, believe me.


16 posted on 05/06/2011 9:46:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: cookcounty

Gary Faulkner Says He Helped Flush Bin Laden From Afghanistan.

Gary Faulkner said Wednesday he’d like one-quarter of the $25 million reward that was offered for hunting down bin Laden.

Faulkner was found last year wandering in the woods of northern Pakistan armed with a pistol, sword and night-vision goggles. He told Parkistani authorities that he was searching for bin Laden and wanted to decapitate him


17 posted on 05/06/2011 9:53:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Was Bin Laden betrayed by his right-hand man?

Perhaps so. And, just a simple side note, given the number of years in question, is that I wonder why Gen. Ratko Mladic doesn't get betrayed by his "right-hand" man.

18 posted on 05/06/2011 10:05:02 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: george76
a psych op story to incite other members of al Q to take him out?
19 posted on 05/06/2011 10:07:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: PGR88

Yeh, they’ll never catch on...right??


20 posted on 05/06/2011 10:10:33 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Yaelle
You may be right, but Obama is NO friend of Israel, believe me.

He will be as we get closer to the next election.
21 posted on 05/06/2011 11:31:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: george76

Article like this are how warfare should be treated in the press. Sow doubt, dissent, discord among the enemy. NY Times & Washington Post, please note.


22 posted on 05/06/2011 11:35:54 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: george76

I remember hearing about that; just think, if he had succeeded, he would be a new American legend.


23 posted on 05/06/2011 11:51:10 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: george76

the problem being, that without Bin Laden, Zawahiri has likely lost his authority; if Bin Laden were alive to publically pass power to Zawahiri and bless Zawahiri as his official successor, I am more than sure that Zawahiri won’t have to fight as he will have to now.

There will be many who will want power and Zawahiri was just Bin Laden’s ‘community organizer.’ There’s going to be a lot of internal division and I hope our ops take advantage of it.


24 posted on 05/06/2011 11:54:16 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Cicero
And I believe the Pakistani government went along with it, since they did nothing to intervene when the Seals went into Bin Ladin’s compound. I’m not sure if they could have stopped the raid

A full brigade in the immediate area .... and the national military academy.

Wonder how many battalions of antiaircraft artillery and guided missiles they have in the area? And nobody's radar lit up when helicopters started orbiting over Abbottabad?

Point taken.

Meanwhile, the rest about Zawahiri sounds like it could be inspired dissension-sowing in the MB ranks .... marking Zawahiri as a Judas and a backstabber to the other MB rank-and-file.

25 posted on 05/07/2011 4:22:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Maybe you have heard of it, it's called "Israel" and a lot of politicians in the US love it come election time.

Obama doesn't. He's proved it .... and still Jews incline to support him. Blind love on their part, and unrequited, but there you are.

26 posted on 05/07/2011 4:27:56 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Are you kidding? Have you been following events in Egypt? They are handing it over, with Obama’s HELP, to the Muslim Brotherhood. And Obama HATES Israel. As does Hillary.


27 posted on 05/07/2011 7:52:37 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Are you kidding? Have you been following events in Egypt? They are handing it over, with Obama’s HELP, to the Muslim Brotherhood. And Obama HATES Israel. As does Hillary.

If Obama is directly assisting the Muslim Brotherhood, I would really like some links to pass around to people I know.
28 posted on 05/07/2011 8:36:56 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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