Skip to comments.San Diego losing another cruise ship
Posted on 05/07/2011 11:35:22 AM PDT by george76
The Holland America liner, the Oosterdam, which makes regular cruises to the Mexican Riviera, will no longer sail out of San Diego after April 2012.Regular voyages to the Mexican Riviera, long a mainstay of San Diegos cruise ship business, are likely to end by the fall of 2012 with the decision by Holland America to move one of its key liners to Australia.
The cruise lines 1,926-passenger Oosterdam and the 2,500-passenger Carnival Spirit are the only two vessels that currently head to the Mexican Riviera on a regular basis, and both are now scheduled to leave San Diego after April of 2012. The Spirit as well will be relocated to Australia.
While the fall 2012-2013 schedules for the cruise lines have yet to be finalized, Port of San Diego official Rita Vandergaw acknowledged that for now it appears that San Diego will no longer have regular cruises to the Riviera.
The redeployment of the Oosterdam, which makes seven-day cruises to Mexico, marks the third ship to leave San Diego waters in the wake of a prolonged economic downturn and rising violence in Mexico. The net effect has been a plunge in cruise ship calls, which are an important component of San Diegos tourism economy.
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Idiots in the MSM, listen: It’s the port fees. San Diego and California extortion dollars.
“Idiots in the MSM, listen: Its the port fees. San Diego and California extortion dollars.”
No doubt a contributing factor along with the damned unions, but also the safety factor of going into Mexico has to have some effect on the decision as well.
Yeah the Port fees and the fact that Mexico is not a very healthy place to go on vacation these days.
It’s also the Australian economy - 4.9% versus ours.
Who needs to travel to Mexico when we have the people and the culture it in every U.S. city now?
Mexican Riviera? I can imagine what that is.
Here are one of their casinos.
The main one is safety, my nephew goes down there all the time, or did that is, he says it is not safe, he lives in CA and was thinking of buying a retirement home down there.
San Diego triangle.
Absolutely. Cruises were expensive, are expensive and are expected to be expensive. Even if the port fees are $100 per passenger (or $200K per ship) it is still a minor part of the $5,000 that you pay for the cruise. Many people (among those who buy cruises) won't even think twice - it's not a showstopper. They pay 10x more just for airplane tickets to get to the port. It's just money, you can always earn more.
However if upon arrival to a "vacation spot" you can't leave the ship without a personal security detail and in an armored limousine - that's a problem right here. Who wants to be killed or kidnapped on their vacation? If you can't enjoy your vacation it is a showstopper. Mexico is killing its own tourist industry, among others - that's what happens when a weak, corrupt government is played as a fiddle by rich and powerful mafia.
Criminals are not known to care about the country; they will plunder whatever is left of Mexico and then move on, to the newly conquered Northern territories. Instead of marching in as an army, though, they prefer to buy their way in - and we can't do a thing about those "undocumented" "civilians" until it is too late. There is no front in this war, and no uniforms. Politicians will be denying that we are at war until the war is thoroughly lost.
If it were the port fees, then why would so many cruise lines continue to sail to the Alaska ports which have by far the highest and most outrageous port fees in the US.
As someone living in CA who has taken several Mexican cruises out of San Diego, I can tell you that I will no longer be taking any cruises to Mexico. One would have to have little regard for one’s life to go anywhere in Mexico these days.
The Mexican tourism folks keep saying that it is not all of the country that is dangerous. “You wouldn’t stay out of Houston if the problem is in New York City, would you?” they say. New York City seems to be safer than all of Mexico. So, yeah, I’d go to NYC.
My brother and his wife have been to Acapulco and other resorts and they love it. Me? I would rather have a root canal than go anywhere near Mexico.
Now, if someone will only donate some cash to my cruise fund, I would do a Mediterranean cruise again.
Would that include Tunisia and Egypt right now?
Not a problem as long as the price of drugs in the US stays low. Blow a little weed and that $4 a gallon gas isn’t a big problem.
My first and only Mediterranian cruise was from Istanbul to Barcelona, with stops in Greece, Italy, Monaco and Monte Carlo. The cruise pre-dated 9/11, and Turkey wasn’t all that bad back then. People were excited to see us Americans (and our money) and were very good to us. I believe now the cruise only goes as far as Greece. There might also be some stops in former Communist countries like Hungary now as well.
Anyway, I highly recommend a Mediterranean cruise, if you have the bucks. It’s a great adventure.
The East coast of Mexico isn’t bad at all. Cancun is so Americanized now, it’s like going to Key West.
Oddly enough it's where I went for a root canal...
From Miami, we've sailed to Cancun then to Cozumel for the last two years, and plan to again in a few weeks. It's perfectly safe, especially Cozumel. We have had dozens and dozens of friends do the same the last 6-months, and none experienced any issues whatsoever.
Two years ago, we sailed south to Tortola first, then over to the Caymans and then onto MX. I thought it was much dicier in parts of the Caribbean than it is in the Gulf-side of Mexico.
However, I literally wouldn't go to Acapulco or some of the other western destinations if the trip was free.