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Stop Gambling Expansion in Texas
The Patriot Statesman ^ | 5-8-2011 | Donna Garner

Posted on 05/09/2011 5:11:32 AM PDT by BillKneer

ACTION STEP: Please contact your Texas Legislators and tell them that we do not want any expansion of gambling in our state. Ask them to vote against both Rep. Hamilton’s HJR 147 and Rep. Hilderbran’s HB 254. Hilderbran’s bill is making rapid progress and is on the General State Calendar for this Tuesday, on 5.10.11.

Hilderbran’s bill makes Texas horse racing derbies possible; and, of course, the next small step would be a piece of legislation to open the way for racetrack casinos (“racinos”) at those horse racing derbies.

We do not want any expansion whatsoever of gambling in Texas because the net loss to communities outweighed the benefits 3 to 1!

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Rep. Mike Hamilton (R – Mauriceville) is the chair of the House Licensing and Administrative Procedures Committee and was appointed by Speaker Straus.

Speaker Straus (R – San Antonio) and his family have made their fortune from gambling interests.

Legislation that involves the expansion of gambling will normally come before the Licensing and Administrative Procedures Committee (L&A).

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotstatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gambling; gaming; straus; texas
We can fight to get Conservatives elected but we can never again turn to sleep or they will do as they always do..They will turn again to there self-serving interest and we the people pay..
1 posted on 05/09/2011 5:11:38 AM PDT by BillKneer
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To: BillKneer

I agree that casino gambling will not pay off, it’s a bad call. I wish the article could have also contained a move to eliminate the state lottery. Texas Lotto like all other lotteries has always been a sucker bet, designed not to pay out.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 5:26:52 AM PDT by winston65
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To: winston65

I once heard John Sharp say that playing the lottery in Texas is like placing beer bottles side by side along I-10 from El Paso to Beaumont and then picking 6. That was when there were still 60 numbers. The line of bottles now might stretch to Lafayette, LA.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 5:33:29 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: BillKneer
We do not want any expansion whatsoever of gambling in Texas because the net loss to communities outweighed the benefits 3 to 1!

Please be so kind as to provide some supporting documentation and/or links that would tend to prove that statement.

4 posted on 05/09/2011 5:44:30 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: BillKneer
This is silly. Legalized gambling provides new jobs for an economy that desparately needs them. Besides, what better way is there to get people who would otherwise pay no taxes to pay for their fair share of the cost of government?

Consider the lottery. Most lottery sales take place in the poorest of communities. This is pretty much free money for the government and less money that would need to be taken from higher income taxpayers.

Also consider that people will gamble anyway, in the case of Maryland, many people here who wanted to gamble would go to neighboring states to do it. If they're gonna gamble, why not keep that money in your home state instead?

5 posted on 05/09/2011 6:12:52 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: BillKneer

We do not want any expansion whatsoever of gambling in Texas because the net loss to communities outweighed the benefits 3 to 1!


Shuffle up and deal............


6 posted on 05/09/2011 6:16:59 AM PDT by deport
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To: pnh102

Texas has been all over the park on legalized gambling. Texas one of the largest horse breeding states went through the ups/down of legalized gambling on horse racing.

example:
The Texas legislature voted to repeal the pari-mutel laws at the end of the regular session in 1937. It was a setback that the Texas racing industry would have to endure and finally, in 1987, the Texas legislature voted to legalize pari-mutuel wagering in Texas.

50 Years but Texas got horse racing back.

I’m surprised the Indian Reservations haven’t taken a major role in getting casinos on their lands.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 6:25:48 AM PDT by deport
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To: pnh102
I view the idea of making gambling illegal in Texas with a very jaundice eye for two reasons.

First, the article states that a major Texas politician’s family made their money through gambling. Isn't gambling already illegal? If so, what weren't the elder members of that family jailed?

Second, as Prohibition proved, making something illegal doesn't solve the problem. If the Texan society decides that something has to be corrected they will correct it because social problems have to corrected at the individual level (see MADD as a supporting example). making something illegal doesn't solve a social problem.

8 posted on 05/09/2011 6:32:16 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: BillKneer

A few casinos in Galveston would be a swell idea...


9 posted on 05/09/2011 6:37:36 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: winston65

10 posted on 05/09/2011 6:38:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: pnh102
what better way is there to get people who would otherwise pay no taxes to pay for their fair share of the cost of government? ... less money that would need to be taken from higher income taxpayers.

Your hypothesis assumes that government spending is a fixed quantity. It isn't. An extra dollar conned out of lotto players won't be used to offset taxes elsewhere; it will simply be an additional dollar spent by government in some other wasteful scheme. Lotto just gives governments more money to spend, and they do.

11 posted on 05/09/2011 6:45:01 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga
An extra dollar conned out of lotto players ...

A con? Come on. No form of gambling is a con by definition because the gambler himself is playing upon his own greed by playing the game.

Lotto just gives governments more money to spend, and they do.

And that is the true beauty of legalized gambling. If one feels this way, he can choose to not give the government more money by not participating. I'd take that over taxes any day of the week.

12 posted on 05/09/2011 6:48:51 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: BillKneer

1. Gaming is not economic development—it’s revenue development for politicians who want more money to buy votes.

2. The few jobs that gaming creates are low-paying, no-benefit jobs: dealers, bartenders, and cocktail waitresses, pawn shops, liquor stores, check cashing, pot shops, slum motels.

3. Gaming is a giant suction pump that removes cash from the local economy and pipes it elsewhere.

4. Gaming attracts the homeless, drunks, prostitutes, drugs, gangs and promotes every form of illegal behavior including rape, murder, armed robbery, drug trafficing, prostitution, human trafficing, and car theft.

5. Gaming does not stimulate ANY spinoff development in the area, since ALL economic activity is conducted inside the walls of the casinos: retail, restaurants, gift shops, entertainment—EVERYTHING. The streets become dingy, dirty and the storefronts become liquor stores and pawn shops.

6. Gaming enriches politicians and the worst elelments of society.

7. My objection is strictly on a cost/benefit, economic basis: GAMING IS NOT WORTH THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS!!!


13 posted on 05/09/2011 6:49:56 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

You are delusional....are you a politician....just spew assertions out with nothing to back them up....tell your nonsense to the Indian tribes in Oklahoma....


14 posted on 05/09/2011 6:57:26 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: pnh102

This is silly. Legalized drugs provides new jobs for an economy that desparately needs them. Besides, what better way is there to get people who would otherwise pay no taxes to pay for their fair share of the cost of government?
Consider the drugs. Most drug sales take place in the poorest of communities. This is pretty much free money for the government and less money that would need to be taken from higher income taxpayers.

Also consider that people will use drugs anyway, in the case of Maryland, many people here who wanted to use drugs would go to neighboring places to do it. If they’re gonna use drugs, why not keep that money in your home state instead?


15 posted on 05/09/2011 7:05:32 AM PDT by ngat
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Nah...He’s right. The wife and I go to Winstar every couple months. We always knock over a liquor store or a pawn shop and pick up some hookers on the way.


16 posted on 05/09/2011 7:15:23 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: pnh102

The lottery is a tax on stupidity.


17 posted on 05/09/2011 7:16:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ngat
Nice try. But "you" are right. It is for those reasons in part that I believe all illegal drugs should be made legal. The War on Drug Users has been a complete and total failure. There are more people now than ever before who are using illegal drugs, and the amount of money that has been wasted on law enforcement efforts to "deal" with this problem is so vast that it cannot be counted. Enforcement of drug laws always seems to hit non-violent offenders much harder than actual violent crooks, and often comes at the expense of having law enforcement deal with "real" crime.

So yes, legalize drugs, and expand legalized gambling.

18 posted on 05/09/2011 7:16:41 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: isthisnickcool

ShreveBo wouldn’t be too happy.


19 posted on 05/09/2011 7:17:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Take a trip to Reno, Nevada. Look around. Then get back to me.


20 posted on 05/09/2011 7:26:39 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: farmguy
We always knock over a liquor store or a pawn shop and pick up some hookers on the way.

Don't forget to blame violent video games for that!

21 posted on 05/09/2011 7:26:48 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
No form of gambling is a con by definition because the gambler himself is playing upon his own greed by playing the game.

While this is of course by definition true, you missed my point that the lotto doesn't reduce anyone's tax burden. All it does is give government additional funds to play with.

22 posted on 05/09/2011 7:33:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: pnh102

Far Cry II

my other vice ( or at least one of them)


23 posted on 05/09/2011 8:44:10 AM PDT by farmguy
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24 posted on 05/09/2011 9:59:03 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SC_Pete
Take a trip to Reno, Nevada. Look around. Then get back to me.

Been there....not any different than many cities it's size that any non-delusional person would see....but of course you are not that sort of person..

25 posted on 05/10/2011 3:08:05 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

If that’s your model, good luck.


26 posted on 05/10/2011 6:53:08 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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